Salam brothers and sisters,
note **Readers should check my conversation with Jawan in the section "Are wahabis enemies of Islam". Jawan is a liar . the last few posts in that section are a witness to his tuhmat (wrong blames ) on me. Astaghfirallah
Wassalam,
Muslim786
Thank you masooma. Atleast some one sees the problem here.
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Jaawan
till next timeKeep_It_Simple_Stupid
Wise Man says:>What I say won’t really change anything, but what you say doesn’t really matter!
Masooma
Pls visit the thread: Wahabi Fitna where abdul malik has asked questions centred on Religious Authority as per quran; the questions were posted on 8/28 @ 6:21pm.
The wahabis even call the Rasoolillah an ordinary man!
May I suggest you take a crack at answering those questions according to the quran.
I suggest you also visit the following: http://www.sunnah.org/salafipub/
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Masooma sister salam,
Be careful of Jawan. he is a wahabi fitna and paid agent of Saudia. May Allah protect us from Wahabi fitna. Aámeen
Thanx for the feedback brother logical
Wassalam,
Muslim786
Salam…
I completely agree w/ u Jaawan, baba ji n Young…and others who supported that point…
U R SO RIGHT…
Well I wouldnt really Say “thanx 4 openenin up my eyes”…b/c I ** already ** believe in wut u said
But I would say “thanx” 4 pointing it out 2 otherz…
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*U got Guts unlike otheres * …
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Salam…
I completely agree w/ u Jaawan, baba ji n Young…and others who supported that point…
U R SO RIGHT…
Well I wouldnt really Say “thanx 4 openenin up my eyes”…b/c I ** already ** believe in wut u said
But I would say “thanx” 4 pointing it out 2 otherz…
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*U got Guts unlike otheres * …
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Sorry 4 2 replies…accident…wasnt workin is wut i thought
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Ms pakistani thanks.
Muslim you can continue your campaing of rejecting quran and hadith and establishing religion of your ancestors. Good luck...and good luck in hell. may allah put you in there soon.
Jaawan
till next time**Keep_It_Simple_Stupid**
**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!
Muslim786 you are finised i call upon you to come to islam and FOLLOW QURAN AND ONLY QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD and leave the religion of your ancestors and hindus rituals
Muslim786 you are finised i call upon you to come to islam and FOLLOW QURAN AND ONLY QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD and leave the religion of your ancestors and hindus rituals
Muslim786 you are finised i call upon you to come to islam and FOLLOW QURAN AND ONLY QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD and leave the religion of your ancestors and hindus rituals
I have done my job…trying to persuade you that real islam is QURAN and ONLY QURAN and SUNNAH of mohammad(pbuh) and leave your religion of your ancestors and hindu rituals…and stop creating new things in islam…creatiing new things in islam is bidd’ah and every bid’ah is dalala and every dalala is going to hell.
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Good LUCK in hell.
Jaawan
till next timeKeep_It_Simple_Stupid
Wise Man says:>What I say won’t really change anything, but what you say doesn’t really matter!
Salaams my brother Adbulmalick,
Jazaakumullaahu khayr for your 'warm' welcome.
I do not believe this issue is about 'putting ones money where one's mouth is' as you put it, rather it is about putting the truth - the Qur'aan and sunnah WITH evidences - where ones mouth is! this is what constitutes 'good' upon ones tongue -and thus if one believes in Allaahand the Last Day then let him speak (a word of) good or remain silent. And insha'Allaah i endeavour to stick firmly to this principle.
Understand this my brother that Islaam and the Sunnah are in no need of Wahabiyyah, however you choose to portray it or understand it. This Deen was COMPLETE long before the advent of ibn Abdul-Wahab and that which occurred during and after his lifetime (rahimullaah). So if we leave such 'history' aside and leap further back to the time of the early generations and the Islaam THEY were upon then i am prepared to discuss any matter with you - with proofs - if you wish. And i see no benefit in plastering the board with numerous questions which no-one has the time to answer so let us stick to one at a time and complete it before we move on.
With this in mind you may put forward what you wish to 'see what i am all about'!
may Allaah guide us, aameen.
Wassalaam
Muslim 786 plz don't make some dumb ass assumption that I'm Jawaan (hey maybe a mod. can tell ya) but wait .. what's the use of advising an assinitic moron like u .. ur situation is really sad ..
btw what is ur problem .. I mean why are after wahabis ?? they're Muslims too just so you know ... declaring someone Kafir isn't a joke ! it's a very very serious matter and I don't think u are right here ... infact calling ur Muslim brothers Kafir shows how much of a true Muslim u really are !! I have one little advice for u ..** think before u write something ** and plz. change ur * holier than thou * attitude. peace out.
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Jawaan,
I agree with most of what you have to say... The only thing I want to know is in which respect do you hold Muhammad (pbuh), the sahabis, the khulfa-e-rashideen. I am not talking about bowing down to graves or anything, just how respectfully do you mention their names or do you respect what they said and all. Also the aulias too were people of allah, they were far more learned than we are and if they did say something it does hold significance.... as for you muslim786, i think you should be more open minded....
You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me.
Logical bhai look whose talking, you say Wahabis call rasoolAllah an ordinary man, ok that is not completely true, he was a human being, he didn’t have no godly powers, the only difference is he was messenger of Allah, he had the light of Allah.
Who knows what that wahabi actually meant by declaring rasoolAllah an ordinary man, this is not a reason for which you can declare wahabi community as the enemy of Islam.Who gave you the right.
Your post wasn’t the answer to my question.If you think Wahabi belief is anti-Islam, prove your position by providing Quranic verses,and not by pasting the address of any site.These website say what the creater of that website has put there.You can’t declare anyone anti-Islam based on the information provided on the website by another so called muslim.
**Masooma sister salam,
Be careful of Jawan. he is a wahabi fitna and paid agent of Saudia. May Allah protect us from Wahabi fitna. Aámeen
Thanx for the feedback brother logical
Wassalam,
Muslim786 **
Walaikum Asalam dear brother,
bhai i don’t understand why you are so much against Wahabis, is it only because some politicains in Arab took foolish steps against sunni sect?Come on bhai, we can’t turn against the whole wahabi community only because few wahabi groups proved themselves nut cases by creating a chaos in Islamic society.
Just tell me what wrong did jawaan say?Why are Wahabis anti-Islam?why are they enemies of Islam?what makes their beliefs non-Islamic according to Quran?
Please bhai,be specific and do not involve personal experiences or SAYAASAT in this issue.lets talk about Islam, what Islam teaches,what is said in Quran and nottt what happened in Arab,Pakistan or any other country.
Masooma
Hamza thanks...all muslims have high respect for Mohamamd(pbuh) and his campanions...if you read that here than its not true...how can one follow quran and hadith and NOT respect Mohammad(pbuh).
Respect has its limits, you dont go around creating new things in religion of Mohammad(pbuh) and call it you are respecting him. To me that is disrespect and i do NOT tolerate that.
Celebrating Mohammad(pbuh)s birthday is a created thing that these people on bases of respect and a good deed. WHen there is no mention of this ritual being done by campanions of the prophet mohmmad(pbuh) there is no hadith or quran verse that tells us that we should do this or if anyone has done this before.
Suhaba were the people who have seen Mohmmmad and LOVED him MORE than them selves and their famlies, if it was nessary to celebrate something like brith of prophet they would have done it. But still they kept the religion like it was revealed and DID NOT creat any new things in islam. Those people could have created it...but they respected the prophet....
Islam was completed 1400 years ago, it does not need any more things being added or subtracted on basis of good deeds or dislikes of some sects of muslim community.
Respecting mohammad(pbuh) is like doing what he did and doing exactly what he did and what his suhaba did and they way they lived their lives....we know that by studying BOOKS OF HADITH....!!!
You are NOT respecting mohammad or allah or campanions of mohammad(pbuh) by adding things in islam on basis of naikii...that is bid'ah and every bid'ah is going to hell.
As i said islam was completed 1400 years ago and we should pratice it like suhaba did...its FULL and its COMPLETE...and if you try to add things into it...those things will be waste and they will NOT benefit you no matter how good they are...if it WAS NOT done by Mohammad(pbuh) his campanions or people after suhaba than ITS NOT ISLAM and its an innovation in islam and ever innovation is going to hell and taking the people who do those innovation with it.
Let me give you an example of a glass full of water: What will happen when you add more water in the glass that is already full of water? the water you are adding will spill on the floor and will be waste and will cause mess...same thing with islam its complete and when you add things into it you are really wasting and creating mess for the whole muslim ummah.
that is the whole difference between Wahabi and these idiots writing stuff against them...wahabies follow QURAN AND ONLY QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD(pbuh) and these people crreat new things in islam and we stop them and do campaigns to stop them and present them with evidence that those things are bid'ah but they dont listen and keep doing and are bound to follow the religion of their ancestors and hindus rituals.
Muslim786 and his other stupid disbeliever friends who believe innovating islam...i call upon you to come to real and true islam and follow QURAN AND ONLY QURAN NOTHING BUT THE QURAN AND SUNNAH OF MOHAMMAD(pbuh) and leave the practies done by your ancestors and leave the rituals of your hindus brothers...because ever newly created thing is bid'ah and every bid'ah is dalala and every dalala is going to hell.
If not than GOOD LUCK IN HELL i have presented and asked you to come to QURAN and SUNNAH only. May allah open your locked hearts.
*Celebrating anyone birthday is wrong in islam, not just mohammad(pbuh).
Jaawan
till next time**Keep_It_Simple_Stupid**
**Wise Man says:>What I say won't really change anything, but what you say doesn't really matter!