Saallaaam all. Please read all of the post, if you dont understand something read it over again sometimes…if you didnt read all of it… i suggest that you dont reply to this post and not make a total fool out of your self. And also sorry it is long. !!!!!!Thank you!
*If you just wana debate with me; than you WIN, if you wana believe and want to learn and gain something than i would want to you to come to hadith and quran and leave your mis-understood beliefs and religion of your ancestors. If not than come lets chat and live and let live.
People of sub-continent do some things, which are NOT part of quran or sunnah. Those were NEVER done by prophet(pbh) or his campanions(suhaba or tabieen or taba-tabieeens). Here is some of the list done by most people(muslims) in South Asia.
**1. Bowing/giving sajjdaa to graves.
2. Giving out Giiyaarween sharifs. (Celebrating something on every 11th of some month)
3. Building Daar’baars and holding them as worship places.
4. Celebrating EID milad-un-nabi. ( i thought we had only 2 EIDs.) <where did this come from???
5. Marriages> Most of the stuff is taken from hindu religion. Jaaheaiz problems. Doing all sort of things which are NOT and never were part of islam.
6. Calling or saying something like " asaalawat to aslaamu aleikaa, yaaraasul-allah – wa-saalmm alekaa yaa habib allah" BEFORE and AFTER saying azzaaann. (call to prayer) Where did that come from??? ITS NOT IN HADITH OR QURAN? sure those are good words, but who told you to put in in front and after azzaan? Thats a big sin.
7. Going to some dead peers and noble men to ask for birth of child and other worldly things. ( daat-taa darrbaar and there are others in south asia as well.) BTW on Daat-taaa darbaar… It says very clearly bowing down to ANTHING other than allah and kabaa is haram… but ignorent people still do it <they actually bow(saajddaa) to that grave
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). I my self have seen people kissing and ornamenting and bowing down to some old mans grave in my village when i was young. DO YOU CALL THAT TRUE ISLAM? DO YOU STILL CALL YOUR SELF FOLLOWERS OF REAL SUNNAH AND QURAN? ARE THINGS MENTIONED ABOVE MENTIONED IN QURAN OR HADITH AS WELL???
8. Giving out khaatam sharifs - what ever that is.
9. Saying that mohammad(pbh) knows the gaaib( the unseen) Saying that he has knowledge that only Allah has.
10. Making up SHIRKAANA “naahtts” about mohammad and other campanions and regarding them as MORE than Allah. (astaqfirullah) Here is an example of such insane and ignorent stupid act. understood that author or speaker is trying to show his or her love towards Mohammad(PBH) but degrading the true level of mohammad and putting him OVER allah is just too much shirk. ]
“Shaafee O Nafee ho tum; Kafee O waafee ho tum”
“dard ko kardo dawaa tum pe karoroN duruud”
“(You are sufficient, enough; adequate and abundant for us.)”
“(Yaa Rasulallah, please heal my pain; give remedy for my affliction a billion Salawat on thee)”
- Going on daarbaars(graves) and putting on fire, and music and bahangraa and dating when you people hold melas there. Where did this come from? ITS NOT IN HADITH OR QURAN. who said you can do that on graves? in cemetary? in kabar-estaan?**
Words like that are in billions…unpureizing the hearts of muslims in thinking that Mohamad(is more than allah) When mohammad was just a human being. Its understood that people TRY to show love to mohammad…but this is not good when you hold something in same level as allah. ALLAH is first and than Mohammad. NOT other way around.
Lets see what people who do these things have to say and how they justify their soo called " praising lord". lol
Finally I don’t think it’s right or Mohammad told us to create something new in Islam “thinking” that is a good deed. Every good deed that can be done by us is in quran and sunnah. There is no need to make anything new in religion on basis of good deed or bad deed. When you add or subtract things from islam(like those mentioned above) what you are really doing is that you are syaing" oh mohammad you forgot to add this thing in our religion" this thing that we are adding was needed VERY badly" That is what you really trying to tell us and allah and his messenger. This is all i say, that FOLLOW QURAN AND SUNNAH(HADITH OF MOHAMMAD) AND LIVE LIKE PROPHETS CAMPANIONS DID, IF WE WANT TO BE SUCCESSFULL ON THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT AND HERE IN THIS WORLD. And REFRAIN our selves from creating anything new in Islam, which we do not have any knowledge of, and also WE SHOULD TRY TO STUDY ISLAM OUR SELVES AND NOT GO TO SOME PEEER WHO WILL TELL YOU WHAT EVER BENEFITS HIM. Most of you people follow the religion of your ancestors who lived among hindus and adopted some things from them…thinking ITS OK to do. WHen they have no knowledge of true islam and they kept on adding stuff to islam and now you are here debating and trying to justify it with false hadith and against quran and real sunnah of mohammad(pbh).
Give me ONE hadith that says that those things are OK to do in islam? from authentic books of hadith(bukhari, muslim)i would summit to it with my eyes closed.
*Those Eleven(11) things i mentioned above…you tell me do you make that part of islam that was completed many many years ago(1420)???
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion” [al-Maa’idah 5:3].
I have asked samething in other post but you guys just keep on bashing me with wahabism and wahabism… and ARE NOT making any point on why do YOU do those things that wahabis (as you call them) try to stop you??? you know, i know and all of this world knows those things are NOT part of islam. You may have misunderstood something and made it look like part of islam.*
Some hadiths:
004.055.580 - Prophets -
Narrated -Abdullah
When the Verse:–“It is those who believe and do not confuse their belief with wrong ( i.e. joining others in worship with Allah” (6.83) was revealed, we said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Who is there amongst us whohas not done wrong to himself?” He replied, “It is not as you say, for’wrong’ in the Verse and 'do not confuse their belief, with wrong means ‘SHIRK’ (i.e. joining others in worship with Allah). Haven’t youheard Luqman’s saying to his son, 'O my son! Join not others in worship with Allah, verily joining others in worship with Allah is a great wrong indeed.” (31.13)
007.071.659 - Medicine -
Narrated -Abu Huraira
Allah’s Apostle said, “Avoid the Mubiqat, i.e., shirk and witchcraft.”
004.056.803 - Virtues and Merits of the Prophet (pbuh) and his Companions -
Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman
The people used to ask Allah’s Apostle about good, but I used to ask him about evil for fear that it might overtake me. Once I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We were in ignorance and in evil and Allah has bestowed upon us the present good; will there by any evil after this good?” He said, “Yes.” I asked, “Will there be good after that evil?” He said, "Yes, but it would be tained with Dakhan (i.e. Little evil)."I asked, “What will its Dakhan be?” He said, “There will be some people who will lead (people) according to principles other than my tradition. You will see their actions and disapprove of them.” I said,“Will there by any evil after that good?” He said, “Yes, there will besome people who will invite others to the doors of Hell, and whoever accepts their invitation to it will be thrown in it (by them).” I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Describe those people to us.” He said, “Theywill belong to us and speak our language” I asked, “What do you order me to do if such a thing should take place in my life?” He said, “Adhere to the group of Muslims and their Chief.” I asked, “If there is neither a group (of Muslims) nor a chief (what shall I do)?” He said, “Keep away from all those different sects, even if you had to bite (i.e. eat) the root of a tree, till you meet Allah while you are still in that state.”
009.088.206 - Afflictions and the End of the World -
Narrated Hudhaifa bin Al-Yaman
The people used to ask Allah’s Apostle about the good but I used to ask him about the evil lest I should be overtaken by them. So I said, “O Allah’s Apostle! We were living in ignorance and in an (extremely) worst atmosphere, then Allah brought to us this good (i.e., Islam); will there be any evil after this good?” He said, “Yes.” I said, ‘Willthere be any good after that evil?" He replied, "Yes, but it will be tainted (not pure.)’’ I asked, “What will be its taint?” He replied, “(There will be) some people who will guide others not according to mytradition? You will approve of some of their deeds and disapprove of some others.” I asked, “Will there be any evil after that good?” He replied, “Yes, (there will be) some people calling at the gates of the(Hell) Fire, and whoever will respond to their call, will be thrown bythem into the (Hell) Fire.” I said, “O Allah s Apostle! Will you describe them to us?” He said, “They will be from our own people and will speak our language.” I said, “What do you order me to do if such a state should take place in my life?” He said, “Stick to the group ofMuslims and their Imam (ruler).” I said, “If there is neither a group of Muslims nor an Imam (ruler)?” He said, “Then turn away from all those sects even if you were to bite (eat) the roots of a tree till death overtakes you while you are in that state.”
PS: You calling me wahabi (((off course I ONLY CONSIDER MY SELF A MUSLIM ))) or enemy of islam does NOT make you right. Friend and follower of islam is one who follows the way of life of prophet mohammad and his campanions. If ANYONE doesnt do that than he is NOT a muslim but a rejector of the fact that islam is truely complete and it needs YOU to add somethings.
<<<I am trying to tell you that " KaaanN is kaala, not chiitaa(white)" but you are saying over and over again its chiitaa(white) = I am trying to tell you that >“Crow is black, but your babbling about crow being white” when its black, not white.>>>
If someone tells you to follow quran and hadith it DOES NOT mean they are from some sect such as wahabis or something else. It just means that they are TRYING to make you follow the real true completED islam. I am follower of (1st)QURAN and (2nd)HADITH only and i will continue to do that as long as i live and i will continue to tell others about it and to only follow quran and hadith as long as i live…and inshallah my childern will as well. Well i have done my job…told you its NOT good to creat new things or do the new things created by your ancestors. Its bad and is a MAJOR sin in islam. I done my part now you have to do yours and either come to right path of quran and leave those hideous rituals…or be from the unbelievers and wrong dooers.
I rest my case. Good luck. May Allah open your eyes and hearts to see the true islam in light of quran and hadith. Thank you. BYE!
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*Bring your daaleel from quran and hadith if those things(want me to list them over again?lol) are ok to do in islam.
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Jaawan
*If you just wana debate with me than you WiN, if you wana believe and want to learn and gain something than i would want to you to come to hadith and quran and leave your mis-understood beliefs and religion of your ancestors. If not than come lets chat, and live and let live.
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