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For those interested in what GOD says about the same topic.
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I actually asked for the feedback on the video I posted. What you've done by posting your own video in reply is quite annoying. I suppose you didn't even bother watching my video.
Anyway, you can write down in short whatever you're trying to refute through your video.
I actually asked for the feedback on the video I posted. What you've done by posting your own video in reply is quite annoying. I suppose you didn't even bother watching my video.
Anyway, you can write down in short whatever you're trying to refute through your video.
Your video is not working. It just keeps staying looped in the Vimeo boot screen.
You put a video supporting Hadith (Bukhari etc.) . I put a video rebuttal in support of the word of GOD. Why is that annoying for you? You put your best foot forward, and so did I. You are preaching the words of men, and I am preaching the word of GOD. You should want to hear what GOD has to say about the things you follow.
Peace
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^ Obedience to Prophet Muhammad is obedience to Allah the almighty. Books of Hadiths are word of Muhammad PBUH, who is the chosen one from Allah. Though, what contradicts with Quran should not be taken as the authentic hadith. Quran is superior to everything, though to understand Quran better, one must rely on Ahadith.
why should one believe in Quran when they would question Prophet Muhammad PBUH's truthfulness and how correct was he when he spoke ?
Muhammad PBUH's life , if u ponder upon it, is the living and walking Quran.. he spoke , breathe, and sleep Quran. You want to understand Quran?.. read MuhammadPBUH's seerat.
On one hand, you are telling people to believe in the word of God, while on other hand telling them to not worry about the person's sayings on whom this book was reveled upon. Strange.
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People, don't mind submitj, he is proud to say he has taken out verses from the Quran and says he's following the truth.
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Quran says : a revelation from the lord of the universe. HAD HE UTTERED ANY OTHER TEACHING, we would have punished him. We would have stopped the revelations to him. 69: 43:46
HAD HE UTTERED. He SAW did NOT.
How can you justify the existence of the great prophet MuhammadPBUH , if u had not read about what the historians have to say about it?..
How can you justify Quran as being the word of God, afterall, its just written WITHIN Quran that its the word of God..
how can you justify Quran when it also is being passed down since 1500 years. How can you say its the word of Allah and not word of a man (nauzubillah)? is it merely because IN the quran it tells u to believe its the word of God? because that doesnt make sense.
Ponder about this statement : WHy do you believe in Quran ? answer: because its the word of God... question : how do you know its the wrod of God? answer : because IT SAID SO in the Quran.
Make sense to you? You will be in this circle forever and will never be able to justify yourself.
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Again, anything that contradicts Quran SHOULD NOT be followed in any way. Also, nothing that Muhammad PBUH had said that goes against Quran. If it does, it should not be believed as His sayings.
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this is comming from you^^^^^^^^^^^^^???
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nasirahmad...can you please stop what you are trying to achieve? leave the topic to what it is and respect hareem01 and Mr. Popat.
Open your own Thread if you want to attack Ahmadiyyat! We had this nonsense and don't want it anymore. Please fulfill your duty and become a good muslim.
Thank you
this is comming from you^^^^^^^^^^^^^???
No sarcasm please.
this is comming from you^^^^^^^^^^^^^???
yes. why should it not? Muslims regard Quran to be the most superior book over any other book. Collection of ahadith comes after. I also believe that to understand Quran, one must rely on ahadith, however, those ahadith must be discarded and should not be believed if they contradict the holy Quran, as nothing that MuhammadPBUH must have said can be contradictory to Quran. I, as a Muslim should believe that, and must regard Quran to be superior over every holy book.
I stand firm to what i say. I do understand what sort of accusations you may bring after this response of mine. Though, if it was for the accusations that i should stop myself, then know that i and my beliefs have faced numerous accusation as expected, but they also get their answers right from Quran. None can deny the truth, but ignore the kind of reply i give, which ofcourse is expected.
Mr. Nasir, I am not here to start arguing once again. You have something useful to say as per the topic, please do, as we all learn from eachother.
As per the topic of the thread, hareem, i cannot open the video. Please re-check the link and re-post it. Thank you.
PS: sorry, i clicked the link and it works.
^ Obedience to Prophet Muhammad is obedience to Allah the almighty. Books of Hadiths are word of Muhammad PBUH, who is the chosen one from Allah. Though, what contradicts with Quran should not be taken as the authentic hadith. Quran is superior to everything, though to understand Quran better, one must rely on Ahadith.
why should one believe in Quran when they would question Prophet Muhammad PBUH's truthfulness and how correct was he when he spoke ?
Muhammad PBUH's life , if u ponder upon it, is the living and walking Quran.. he spoke , breathe, and sleep Quran. You want to understand Quran?.. read MuhammadPBUH's seerat.
On one hand, you are telling people to believe in the word of God, while on other hand telling them to not worry about the person's sayings on whom this book was reveled upon. Strange.
I understand what you are telling me, but hadith came from Bukhari, not the prophet. The QUran came from Muhammad. GOD put a miracle in the Quran to confirm it is the unaltered word of GOD. So, we KNOW every word of it is the absolute truth and cannot be abrogated.
As well, you pointed out the verse, 'Had he issued any other teachings, we would have punished him. We would have stopped the revelations to him'. So, if there are teachings in hadith that are contradictory to the QUran (which there are), and are confirmed to be 'AUTHENTIC" hadith. That would mean prophet Muhammad DID preach other teachings. Therefore, the Quran would not be complete and fully detailed, which it is. The great math miracle confirms it is completed. So, by default, Muhammad NEVER issued other teachings, meaning the 'authentic' hadiths COULD NOT HAVE COME FROM Muhammad. They simply could not have.
As well, the word 'hadith' means 'narration'. The Quran is a first-person narration from GOD to us through His messenger. Hadith & Sunnah are 'third party' narrations CLAIMED to be from the prophet. So, a narration from the GOD directly through HIS messenger is to be obeyed. A narration through a chain of unauthorized humans claiming to be from the prophet 200+ years after he died IS NOT a narration from GOD (Quran). It is 'other teachings' by men (Bukhari etc.).
The bottom line is if Muslims truly love and respect the prophet, they would follow what he followed. The Quran. It is as simple as that.
Peace
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^^ How Screwed ARE you.. you have no common sense .. If Quraan was Given to the Prophet SAW, Then Why cant Ahadith - Sayings of the Prophet SAW be passed down to noble men amongst whom Imam Bukhari was best in the COMPILATION and NOT FABRICATION. And thus, he just passed on what was passed down to him or HE made an effort to gather those Ahadith. and in consequence he EXCELLED in his skill.
Oh just one more thing, if your head is scrrewwwed on propperly... The prophet followed what the quraan / Allah ordered, and now IF your a muslim so am presuming you pray.. and now if you tell me the METHOD as to how to pray in the Qur'aan... without taking in consideration to ahadith. NO WAY ..you can tel me this ..why cos thas what the prophet told.. i.e. ''salle kamaa ra aitumooni'' ..and this is just a simple EASY example for you justto get to ur thick skull ..where as there are countless more things where without the support of Ahadith .. youd be TOTALLY DISABLED to live a life ..cos every step of the way .. there are Ahadith in correspondance to Quraan which Quraan just orders but the ahadith dictate and elaborate.
I have said it already. The Quran has stated for over 1400 years. The daily salat prayers were ALREADY in existence prior to Muhammad. If hadith and sunnah are the only way of knowing how to pray salat, then essentially you are saying Abraham DID NOT have the religious duties. You are saying that NONE of the prophets knew how to perform Salat, except the last prophet. That is completely illogical, yet you say my logic is screwed! However, we know from Quran that salat was given to Abraham, NOT Muhammad. This is a Quranic fact you cannot ignore. Well, actually, you are ignoring it. You just do not want to accept that Islam is the religion of Abraham, NOT Muhammad, your idol. GOD revealed a miracle in the Quran to the world in 1974, which fulfilled the prophecy of 3:81. A prophecy where a messenger will come to confirm what we have (Quran) and restore Islam to it’s original purity, which included Salat. All you have to do is read the Quran with a sincere heart devoted ONLY to GOD.
For those who chose to use their own brains as commanded by GOD, and NOT to accept any information without verifying it for themselves in the Quran (which includes what you inherited from your parents, scholars, etc.) go to https://sites.google.com/site/evidenceofgod/
Peace
I understand what you are telling me, but hadith came from Bukhari, not the prophet. The QUran came from Muhammad. GOD put a miracle in the Quran to confirm it is the unaltered word of GOD. So, we KNOW every word of it is the absolute truth and cannot be abrogated.
As well, you pointed out the verse, 'Had he issued any other teachings, we would have punished him. We would have stopped the revelations to him'. So, if there are teachings in hadith that are contradictory to the QUran (which there are), and are confirmed to be 'AUTHENTIC" hadith. That would mean prophet Muhammad DID preach other teachings. Therefore, the Quran would not be complete and fully detailed, which it is. The great math miracle confirms it is completed. So, by default, Muhammad NEVER issued other teachings, meaning the 'authentic' hadiths COULD NOT HAVE COME FROM Muhammad. They simply could not have.
As well, the word 'hadith' means 'narration'. The Quran is a first-person narration from GOD to us through His messenger. Hadith & Sunnah are 'third party' narrations CLAIMED to be from the prophet. So, a narration from the GOD directly through HIS messenger is to be obeyed. A narration through a chain of unauthorized humans claiming to be from the prophet 200+ years after he died IS NOT a narration from GOD (Quran). It is 'other teachings' by men (Bukhari etc.).
The bottom line is if Muslims truly love and respect the prophet, they would follow what he followed. The Quran. It is as simple as that.
Peace
This is what i said, if a hadith is taken as authentic and it contradicts Quran, then chances are its not authentic.. its very simple. Beside, there are many things in Qur'an which commands Muslim to act but simply do not guide Muslims how to. Hajj , Namaaz, Fasting are some of the many examples which are fardh on us in Qur'an but we will only be doing it according to however we please, unless we follow what MuhammadPBUH used to do in His times.
It is written in Qur'an alone that it is the book of Allah. It's like me giving u a book and telling you that every single word in it is an absolute truth because i wrote that in the book that its absolute truth.
If you just follow Qur'an , it will be like respecting the pages of Quran but giving no respect to the person on whom this book was revealed on.
You failed to explain the miracles God put in the Quran which tells u its the book of God. Please explain
I am not here to justify ahadith, for sure, there are ahadith which are there in the books which i wouldnt say is incorrect, but passed down in different meaning and hence got a total new meaning of it, which contradicts quran , hence, not authentic.
Then there are ahadith which are being fulfilled even to this date. If someone calls one hadith weak or not authentic and it somehow happens, then my friend, it is not the hadith thats weak , its your heart that weak to accept it. People in the past have organized ahadith based on which is authentic and which isnt, but if say a hadith that is categorized as unauthentic happens to happen, then we have NO CHOICE but to accept that it must have been the word of MuhammadPBUH ( given that its in accordance with that teaching of Quran).
I have said it already. The Quran has stated for over 1400 years. The daily salat prayers were ALREADY in existence prior to Muhammad. If hadith and sunnah are the only way of knowing how to pray salat, then essentially you are saying Abraham DID NOT have the religious duties. You are saying that NONE of the prophets knew how to perform Salat, except the last prophet. That is completely illogical,
Peace
im not sure if i agree with the above statement. Was Abraham given a holy book? if he did not , then im sure the way he performed salat was something that he did it according to how Allah told him. Hence, again according to you.. the man-made salaah, because people must have recorded how he was performing his salaah.
We have been given a method of Salaah which no other prophet before MuhammadPBUH had been given. Had it been salaah the same way as now, there was no need of MuhammadPBUH to come. Jesus was from a family of Abraham as well, but was not given the Muhammadiyya laws. For sure, the message was the same, but that message was for people of that age and period. Now, its only Islam, and to understand Islam, one has to rely on some ahadith clarifying different issues of Quran.
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^bro we muslims take the prophets name with full respect i.e hazrat ibraheem alaih salam or peace be upon him.not like u just saying abraham and jesus.just like shameless jews and christians do.they will call their teacher sir but when it comes to Prophet's name they will just take the name.
u know when we dont call our parents name in this fashion then how can we dare to pronounce the name of the mighty messenger of ALLAH.
thats the basic difference between u and us.u should first learn to respect and then talk on religion.
^bro we muslims take the prophets name with full respect i.e hazrat ibraheem alaih salam or peace be upon him.not like u just saying abraham and jesus.just like shameless jews and christians do.they will call their teacher sir but when it comes to Prophet's name they will just take the name. u know when we dont call our parents name in this fashion then how can we dare to pronounce the name of the mighty messenger of ALLAH. thats the basic difference between u and us.u should first learn to respect and then talk on religion.
They like to adapt the western (masters') thinking. Anything to please their masters. :D
@ submitj, when you post some kind of worthwhile information regarding your cult REMOVING VERSES of QURAN, then I'll think about even reading your posts. Stop with "1974" BS. That guy was a rapist and lunatic, he was no messenger! Stop disgracing Islam for your jahil cult leader.