Follow Palestine, become Palestine

Warning: This post is rated R for “Ruffling the feathers”. Please read it at your own accord.

No one can deny the misery and abject poverty of Palestinians. There are many methods to get out of this sad state of affairs.

  1. Follow Jinnah and launch constitutional struggle.
  2. Follow Yes-Sir (to Kommie Ruskies) Arfat, lose your shirt and pants too.

Most of the Mullahs and Arabs have followed method #2 and that surely resulted in their countries looking just like Palestine. Suicide bombing, random killing, and war lordism rule the roost. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are the shining examples of following method #2.

Now Iranians are getting ready to jump. This will obviously make Tehran look very much like the jannat called Gaza. Those nukie and roketee toys will burn Iranians instead of doing any harm to others.

**My issue is with Pakistanis who **are enjoying the fruits of freedom thanks to method #1 (constitutional struggle). Still they fail to share the same lesson with Palestinians and Arabs. Instead! These Pakistanis are hell bent following Arabs in method #2. Instead of leading Arabs out of this long festering troubles, these Pakistanis are running full speed to get into the same misery.

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When you say "enjoying the fruits of method#1", what exactly do you mean? How much of constitutional rule have we seen in Pakistan out of 59 years? 15-20 years? Lets talk about some other country, that isn't a good example to start. Pakistanis don't have enough confidence in democracy because we have NOT enjoyed the fruits of constitution/democracy YET.

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Instead! These Pakistanis are hell bent following Arabs in method #2. Instead of leading Arabs out of this long festering troubles, these Pakistanis are running full speed to get into the same misery.
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explain a bit further what do you mean by this? are you suggesting "those" Pakistanis want Pakistan to go that way? I hope not.

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Pakistan's struggle for independence was purely constitutional. Jinnah didn't end up in jail for a single day. He worked through British system, and used it effectively towards his objectives.

Even after independence, Pakistan has pretty much obeyed international laws and played the game very carefuly. Pushing forward where it could, and then backing off hwen it was necessary.

That's what we all know as option #1 or the right option.

They may not want Pakistan to "go that way". However if they continue following Arabic or Mullhatic directives, Pakistan will end up in whole lot of trouble.

Look what shame has come Pakistan's way thanks to AQ Khan. This nasty guy ended up selling really bad stuff like P-2s to iranian mullahs. This will come back to bite us pretty bad.

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I didn't know AQ Khan was a mullah. Its shame that everyone you disagree with becomes a mullah. Do you believe there was no Pakistan army involved in all this transaction? or Musharraf was all innocent and A Q was the devil working alone?

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anti, I know that you do some research before posting, but do double check your sources on AQ Khan. He was not the one who sold the stuff to so called "Iranian Mullahs", he was merely a scape goat. You need to dig a bit deeper to find your answer as to why he was used as a pawn and subsequently pardoned.

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Well AQ Khan did say that the Pakistani Nuke was an Islamic bomb

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^ Ok so?

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What relation does it have with his selling nukes to Iran? What about N Korea? Is N Korea a mullahtic state too?

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Pakistan having Nuclear weapons is our great strategic advantage in the muslim world.

It gives us power which we didn't have before.

The Islamic world is dominated by Arab countries and Iran

Us having a Nuclear Weapons gives us clout, people in the Islamic world will respect our opinions and we can get them to pay attention to non-arab issues like Kashmir

by spreading Nukes to Iran and other countries, it diminishes our prestige while the power of military balance in the islamic world shifts to Iran, etc...

As for North Korea, they got their own problems

But its among the most brutal regimes in the world, I can tell you that much

Just because it hates America, doesnt mean its a paradise on earth

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by spreading Nukes to Iran and other countries, it diminishes our prestige while the power of military balance in the islamic world shifts to Iran, etc...

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Exactly...Anti, pay attention...it is the same argument that AQ used with the "nuke spreading mullahs".

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Iran with a nuclear weapon is a very dangerous mix and cannot be allowed to happen

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^ too late. Plus there is nothing wrong with Iran having the nukes. If rabbid dog Israel can have it so can Iran.

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Iran is a terrorist sponsoring nation with ties to blood thirsty terrorist nations

Iran is too irresponsible of a nation to have nukes

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Anyone harping on Islamo-fascism is a Mullah (He could be clean shaven Mullah). Other great maniacs in this category are Hameed Gul, and Mirza Aslam Beg.

There could be a lot of "he said she said" in this fiasco. However it was only AQK who confessed his $tupidities on national TV.

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See, not so long ago Pakistan had ties to these "terrorist" organizations as well. Im talking about pre-911. Now remove the support Bush administration is giving to Pakistan since then, they will say the same about Pakistan as well.

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No, Pakistan has not trained terrorists and directed them to attack other countries.

We train militants to do jihad in Kashmir, completely differnet.

Iran trains hezbollah and they go blow themselves in Israel or in Argentina in 1992 when they attacked the Israeli embassy and the Jewish Center, etc...

Our militants have a nationalistic in scope.

But Iran has global ambitions

Thats the difference

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There is no need to repeat FOX or CNN rantings here, we are all familiar with that, thank you.

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A full believer of media are we? and that of Pakistan TV? :rotfl: Come’on you can do better than that. You didn’t respond of what you think of Musharraf, is he Mullah or not?

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Ask Indians, they will say there is no difference in Hamas terrorism or Pakistani terrorism in Kashmir. Since you are biased in favor of Israel you’ll see Iran as terrorist while Pakistan as not. This is what “bias” does to anyone.

“global ambitions” as in taking over control of the world? :hehe:

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I guess Musharraf is smart enough to play the sipahi (soldier) games. OTOH, smartness is hard to come by for bearded people (unfortunately!).

p.s. Now don't post Chales Darwin's bearded picture here. Everone knows we are talking about local Mullah Nasirud Dins and the beards.