Follow Palestine, become Palestine

[Captain1]

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^ so you are saying M usharraf is not mullah? then how come he allowed AQ Khan to sell nukes to Mullah Iran? or do you suggest Busharraf is like innocent baby?

[antiobl]

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@Captain1

^ so you are saying Musharraf is not mullah? then how come he allowed AQ Khan to sell nukes to Mullah Iran? or do you suggest Musharraf is like innocent baby?

^^ Look Captain Ji. Let's not mispronounce our President's name. For cryin' out loud, this is a Pakistani forum.

We agree to disagree on this. At least use Prez. and Musharraf as proper name. Thank you.

[Captain1]

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^ fine, but you still are unable to pass your verdict.... is he Mullah or an innocent baby (Iran nukes case)?

[Fret_Wizard]

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@mercenary2k

Iran is a terrorist sponsoring nation with ties to blood thirsty terrorist nations

Iran is too irresponsible of a nation to have nukes

So is Israel, so let’s call it even.

[antiobl]

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@Captain1

^ fine, but you still are unable to pass your verdict.... is he Mullah or an innocent baby (Iran nukes case)?

Look every criminal-brother-Muslim in Iran, and every nukie-Muslim-brother in libya have their fingers pointed to their criminal-brother AQKhan. So we can figure out who the guilty party is?

Especially libya gave away their whole jahez (nukes) to the US and listed AQ Khan as the chief supplier.

Given the situation these days, every Arab worth a dime would love to implicated Pakistani army.

Aprat from that, there are thousands if not more conspiracy theories. I am sure you'd carrying few of them too.

[Captain1]

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antiobl: do you seriously think that government didn't know anything about him helping Iran, Libya, NK?

[expatobserver]

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Let Iran have the bomb as I am sure AQK sold it to them. Let them attack Isreal and watch their country turn into a radioactive khet.

[antiobl]

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@Captain1

antiobl: do you seriously think that government didn't know anything about him helping Iran, Libya, NK?

I think AQK should not have been allowed into Pak's nukie program. He deceived his adopted home i.e. Holland, and then he deceived his next adopted home i.e. Pakistan.

Feds are putting X-ray scanning machine at his home's entrance. They should have done that long time ago.

And off course any general or other Pakistani who may have sided with this traitor. He should be punished as well.

[Captain1]

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^ tsk tsk, so sad, I thought you knew how governments are actually run in Pakistan, esp such high profile institute as nuke program. AQ Khan was simply a scapegoat, otherwise he would be living in gitmo already.

[mercenary2k]

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actually us pakistanis are the real idiots

both AQ Khan and the current head of india's missile program came to Pakistan to help develop our weapon platforms

aq khan's offer was taken up when the missile program guy was let go (forgot his name)

he moved to india and now developed their missile program

sad..

Pakistan has such great potential yet it is continually squandered

[parissenoor]

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@antiobl

Warning: This post is rated R for “Ruffling the feathers”. Please read it at your own accord.

No one can deny the misery and abject poverty of Palestinians. There are many methods to get out of this sad state of affairs.

1. Follow Jinnah and launch constitutional struggle.
2. Follow Yes-Sir (to Kommie Ruskies) Arfat, lose your shirt and pants too.

Most of the Mullahs and Arabs have followed method #2 and that surely resulted in their countries looking just like Palestine. Suicide bombing, random killing, and war lordism rule the roost. Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are the shining examples of following method #2.

Now Iranians are getting ready to jump. This will obviously make Tehran look very much like the jannat called Gaza. Those nukie and roketee toys will burn Iranians instead of doing any harm to others.

**My issue is with Pakistanis who **are enjoying the fruits of freedom thanks to method #1 (constitutional struggle). Still they fail to share the same lesson with Palestinians and Arabs. Instead! These Pakistanis are hell bent following Arabs in method #2. Instead of leading Arabs out of this long festering troubles, these Pakistanis are running full speed to get into the same misery.

:Dif india was ruling pakistan like israel is ruling palestine…you would not have the guts to say that:D…it’s only cause pakistanese had same or superior wealth power compare to hindus, than they have achieved what they did…;it’s not political, it’s economical…imagine that hindus had all the water of punjab…i said ALL the water of punjab…then i would not give a damn of the pakistanese economy and power…and you would exactly do the same as palestinians…cause you would be dying of thirst in karachi:halo:

[parissenoor]

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@mercenary2k

Pakistan having Nuclear weapons is our great strategic advantage in the muslim world.

It gives us power which we didn't have before.

The Islamic world is dominated by Arab countries and Iran

Us having a Nuclear Weapons gives us clout, people in the Islamic world will respect our opinions and we can get them to pay attention to non-arab issues like Kashmir

by spreading Nukes to Iran and other countries, it diminishes our prestige while the power of military balance in the islamic world shifts to Iran, etc...

As for North Korea, they got their own problems

But its among the most brutal regimes in the world, I can tell you that much

Just because it hates America, doesnt mean its a paradise on earth

i sense a lot of jealousy....when pakistan has the bomb you're muslim.....when iran is talking about having the bomb...you blame muslims for being in denial, and praise americans:D.....you for sure are a mercenary...shifting opinions with the more money you can get:D

[hareem01]

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False reasoning.................False Logic

[mercenary2k]

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If people like you were incharge of Pakistan, today would not exist as a state.

Do you really think, that India on one side and Iran on the other both possessing nuclear weapons is good for Pakistan?

[parissenoor]

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@mercenary2k

If people like you were incharge of Pakistan, today would not exist as a state.

Do you really think, that India on one side and Iran on the other both possessing nuclear weapons is good for Pakistan?

do you think that Iran invaded by USA..and submitted to islamic terorism thanks to US soldiers ..as it is now hapening in Irak....would be good to Pakistan:D....

NOpe, so in order to avoid it Iran needs to get some self defense tools...

besides Pakistan has already the nuclear bomb..so what's the problem?

[mercenary2k]

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Exactly,

so Iran shouldn't make nukes in the first place

Ok, lets see what happens if Iran makes nukes..

First of all, it won't be able to threaten anyone

Even if Iran has nukes, it has really crappy means to deliver them and even if it did, it will be inviting its complete destruction

the real danger is that some rogue element in the iranian military giving the nuke to Hezbollah and some rogue element in Hezbollah blowing it up in Israel

but thats a different argument

I hope that you are aware that the Iranian government has stronger relations with India than with Pakistan

with the shia-sunni sectarian violence in Pakistan, India will gain a strong ally in a nuclear armed Iran and can force policy changes on Pakistan..

Pakistan and Iran are not on good terms

If you really think that Iran having nuclear weapons is a good idea then you have absolutely no knowledge of geo-strategic and geo-politics of the region

And lastly, USA is not going to invade Iran

US does not posess the ground forces needed for an invasion

An Invasion of Iran, USA would need 600,000 ground troops to fully occupy Iran

Since the bulk of US forces are tied down in Iraq, a ground invasion is not going to happen

What could happen is strategic strikes on Iran to which Iran has no counter too

USA can take out the Iranian Navy, Air Force and bulk of its Ground Forces in a matter of hours

In 6-7 days, the Iranian military heirarchy will be totally destroyed as well its nuclear facilities

Thats the attack plan US is envisioning for Iran

Personally I would love to see the crazy Mullahs gone from Iran and Iran returning to a semblance of reality.

But I am afraid Pakistanis like you who are blinded by religious fervor will lead Pakistan to its demise

Glad, atleast Musharraf has some sense of reality and is playing both sides of the table

It was people like you that we lost Bangladesh, I dont want to lose Pakistan as well

[antiobl]

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@parissenoor

if india was ruling pakistan like israel is ruling palestine.........

**Mademoiselle! **If Jinnah would have behaved like Mufti-Shufti of Palestine, Bharatis will definitely be ruling the areas that are now Pakistan.

As I said, human behavior determines man's (or woman's) destiny. You do the right things, you will be successful. You prepare for the exams in your life, you will get through. That's not mine, but Allah's promise.

OTOH, you site around and f@rt under a date-tree while sipping Gahwa, Well don't blame me then!

[Rahul67]

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@Captain1

Ask Indians, they will say there is no difference in Hamas terrorism or Pakistani terrorism in Kashmir. Since you are biased in favor of Israel you’ll see Iran as terrorist while Pakistan as not. This is what “bias” does to anyone.

“global ambitions” as in taking over control of the world?

Thanks, yes you are right. As an Indian I don’t see much difference..
A terrorist is a terrorist… anybody who attacks innocent population is a terrorist..
I put US/ Israel also in the league upto some extent..
The cause are different one does it in name of nationalist flavour, other in religious flavoru…

[mercenary2k]

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and what about India and its crimes in Gujrat, Kashmir?

[antiobl]

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@Rahul67

....A terrorist is a terrorist...........

OK Hazrat Rahul sahib (Alaihe Salaam)! Please enlighten us about 60K terrorists sent to East Pakistan, all thanks to Indira Gandhi. While you are at it, give some of your fatwas about Subhash Chandar Bose and his terrorists (oops! National army).