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What is Five Mahavartas and/or Great Vows of a Sadhu?
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Never heard about this? Seems there is an interesting historical and social aspect behind this.
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It is Jain Sadhu's vows not Hindu
non violence
non stealing
truth
detachment
and celibacy
celibacy is banned in hinduism and only to be practiced while education, status of non violence is similar to Islam:)
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Please explain the last sentence.
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Celibacy or Brahmcharya is practiced only while education, after that one enter grihasth system , family sistem, one of rina, debt, of hinduism is Pitr Rina (ancestral debt), if one has power to beget he/she must beget, one cannot terminate the family lineage, that is why all rishis were married, Vasisth, vishwamitra, kaushik, shandilya etc, and there decendents claim that as gotram, my hubby is vishwamitra and my saas is vasishth, one cannot marry in same gothra he/she belongs to. All rishis had wifves, Rishipatnis even in Ashram where studnents studied:), Rawan was also son of rishi vishrawaa.
Violence is permitted if it is to save people of the land and for the righteousness, entire Ramayan is fight between good and bad. For different reasons though both Hindus and muslim sacrifice Bakras too:)
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I read there was a tradition of sacrificing horses. I forgot the name of the ritual, but it started with P.. Probably 'Paahal' or something like that.
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Ashwamedh?
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Rajsuya?
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May be. Read it in a novel I'm reading nowadays. Its about interaction between different religion in Pr-partition India. Will see and confirm. :)
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Putraesthti, this was done by Maharaja Dashrath, father of Bhagwan Ram:)
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Putraesthti (Putra=Son) seems like sacrifice of the son, as Hazrat Ibrahim (AS) was ready to do :)
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Purta=son, estthi= choice:), it is different from Hazrat Ibrahim (AS), if i remember right Allah asked sacrifice of Hazrat Isamel(as)??
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Putraesthti = Choice of Son or sacrifice of Horse?
Yes as per Muslim belief it was Hazrat Ismeal (AS) who was chosen by Hazrat Ibrahim (AS) on order of Allah. Jews believe that it was Hazrat Ishaq (AS) :)
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No sacrifice is involved in Putraeshti, purta ki ikshaa, ikshaa means tammana:), choice is inapproriate:)
This story is explained to me by the champ, she can even write persian and arabic:(, and I can't even read gurumukhi script:D
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So whats exactly Putraeshti is?
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In ramayan Maharaja dashrath wasn't having kids, so he performed putraesthi yagya along with Ranis, In hinduism without wife Yagya is incomplete:), In the end, agni dev appeared with bowl of kheer to be distributed to wives, Kaushilya the elder one ate and gave to Sumitra, she took some and gave to Kaikeyi, kaikeyi took some and returned to sumitra, finally sumitra finished all. Hence bhagwan ram was born to kaushalya, laksman and shtughan to sumitra and Bharat to kaikeyi:D
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How about the detachment? Is it part of Hinduism? To me it seems more related to Buddhism?
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Yes detachment is part of hinduism, detachment from money and property AND detachment from world are two main types. General brahmins called pandits practice the first one but always had social responsibility towards the society, The second one by higher brahmins termed as muni,rishi,divyarishi,maharishi,brahmrishi are supposed to be detached from the world, the second type is more similar to Budhhism and Jainism:)
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What do you mean by general Brahmins? Is there a distinction between Brahmins themselves?
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there is no social difference but they had different level according to spritual attainment, an ordinary well read brahmin is pandit, then ascetic is muni, then rishi with special power is divyarishi, Highest power is maharishi, BrahmRishis are the most knowledged they are part of god, in hinduism after attainment of complete sprituality god and bhakt become inseparable:). If a true devotee curses god, even god honors and accept the difficulties:), the love of bhagwan for bhakt and bhakt for bhagwan is inseparable:)