Fitna-e-Qadriya

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Re: Fitna-e-Qadriya

@Damras

Let me show you a non-Ahmadiyya mirror to you, perhaps you may see the real face of your leaders.

1. Your zealots live ‘peacefully’ in Israel and when Modi arrives there, your head in Israel goes to welcome him. In other words, your sect is united with Hindu extremists and Zionists against us.

Ahmadis have a proven record of living peacefully in whatever country they reside in, whether it be India or Israel or UK. When muslims were being persecuted in Makkah, holy Prophet (saw) gave them permission to live under a CHRISTIAN ruler (Najjashi). Who are you to pass your judgement over that of holy Prophet’s on where muslims cannot live. Your assumption of Ahmadis somehow colluding with jews against muslims is utterly rubbish without any grounds. Your own Saudi certified muslim leaders are found in bed with Trump and associates, yet you have problem when an Ahmadi was invited by Israel.
It was a prominent Ahmadi (Zafarullah Khan) who delivered an 8 hour long speech on the rights of Palestinians in United Nation and King Faisal thanked him in a personal letter for that speech. Dont you ever assume that Ahmadis are out there to somehow collude with jews.

@Damras

2. Your prophet was born and bred in the British India, and when he claimed he was the promised messiah and the prophet of God, he made peace with the British Christians who had been exploiting Indian people by stealing their wealth and resources. In other words, your prophet collaborated with the evil criminals, and gave them his support by saying that British were good people and Muslims of India were supposed to be loyal to them. And hence Jihad and Qital is haram!

Holy Prophet (saw) made a treaty with non-muslims who were butchering muslims at that time (Sulah-e-Hudaibia). So in your opinion nauzobillah prophet (saw) collaborated with non-muslims by making that treaty. It is a Hadith that even if a non-muslim is made a ruler over you, Obey him unless he doesnt allow you to practice your religion. Am I suppose to take your words over that of a hadith … British rulers did not stop muslims from practicing their faith. And Qital is Haram. A 100 years later, your own ulemas are coming to the same conclusion now. It wasnt the Jihad and Qitaal that caused British to leave, it was a political movement that sent them packing. Islam is a religion of peace, but you are hell bent on violent Jihad. Moreover, when Jinnah had left the politics, it were Ahmadis who played a crucial hand in bringing him back to the independence movement.

@Damras

Now you’re going to do the same thing which your ‘kinds’ do usually. Posting references of Sunnis, Deobandis, Barelvis that they also supported the British masters. But when you do it, it will prove that your prophet did the same dirty work that these scholars of Muslims did. Actually the Hindus who offered resistance to the evil British rule, the likes of Bhagat Singh were better than your prophet and his devotees!

Go ahead and follow Bhagat Singh and the likes. We Ahmadis will stick to the teaching of Holy Prophet (saw) in light of the above mentioned hadith. And dont try to prove yourself innocent by referring to other as “your kinds”. You know “your kind” pretty well. You come from the same ancestors of sunnis/barelvis/deobandis.

@Damras

3. Your sect was born in the lap of British masters, sought refuge in the lap of the British Queen (in England, where the khalifah resides). We know that England is the land which gives asylum to people like Salman Rushdie and Altaf Hussain. Doesn’t it ring a bell in your head?

Muslims sought refuge in the lap of Christian Najjashi. Where Salman Rushdie and Altaf Hussain live has nothing to do with Ahmadis. Our people escaped the brutal persecution on the hand of you “peace loving muslims” who are hell bent on killing us in Pakistan. Ahmadis were never in the lap of anyone. Mirza Ghulam Ahmad (as) wrote tens of books in defence of Islam against Christianity. You seem to lack common sense. If he was in the lap of British, why would he be writing so strongly Against their religion. Prophets are not raised for political movements, their primary goal is to spread religion, which Mirza Sahib did with his books.

@Damras

4. Quran says that Allah’s prophets will be dominant. And it proves when we see that your prophet died without completing his mission and his followers are condemned in the Muslim world by the mainstream majority of Muslims. Your prophet failed in his mission. You claim your prophet was the saviour for all people, but he didn’t serve humanity, instead he caused violence in Pakistan where Muslims and Ahmadiyya both died in anti-Ahmadi riots. Doesn’t it prove that Mirza Ghulam Ahmad’s teachings are based on mischief and are aimed at dividing and weakening Muslims?

Remind me how the muslims are dominant? 1400 years after the holy prophet (saw) only one-sixth of the humans are muslim, and majority of them are in miserable state. So according to your definition of dominance, Holy Prophet’s (saw) mission failed as well ?? Naozobillah.
Mirza sahib did not cause violence in Pakistan. You state-certified muslims ARE violent people and didnt need any help in that regard. And how many of you lot were killed by Ahmadis in riots?? Care to give any references and numbers? … Its a one-sided violence and YOU are on the wrong side of it.