I am yet to come across something that states marrying your cousin is permitted but not recommended. Or that it's prefered that you don't marry into the family. All your examples below make sense and mostly because Prophet PBUH avoided those himself and for a good reason. However, when the biggest example of humankind, Prophet PBUH himself married his own relative, do we really have a valid argument here? Bibi Aisha RA was his most beloved wife- have you ever read a hadith stating that he married his relative but would not recommend any Muslim following it?
For me, theory is that if our beloved Prophet did it and was happy, then it's all valid and logical- I don't question anything beyond that.
We are allowed to eat beef,lamb etc, Prophet him self avoided beef(red meat). He preferred less dense meat always.
Meat wasn't his fav.
We are allowed to divorce.
But are those practices recommended ?????? answer is
NOOOOOOOO
THERE IS A DIFFERENT BETWEEN BEING ALLOWED and being desirable.
I believe there is no "law" againest cousin marriages, but its not
seen as best practice as well.
^ i kinda agree w/ both of u, cousin marriage IS allowed but then it shdn't be recommended for every single person. However, the latter is up to personal circumstances and religion shouldn't play a part in it (since the religious position on cousin marriage is very clear).
@ shay
Well my believe says, its against all logics to marry cousins. Medically, so If we don't see it from islam , may be we don't know how to look at islam just yet.
Prophet alwasy made decision on based of best of his knowledge. God some time agreed after.(next wahi).
I can't imagine doctors telling over 500 years that its wrong , and still prophet saying no we have to do it.
Wahi came when ppl were blinded for some silly reasons, wahi never came to deny rationality among muslims.
Sara, the religion point is one thing. The second one is that, like in every marriage, if you're compatible and feel like you can spend your lives together despite of being related then go for it. So many cousins have successful and happy marriages and completely normal kids. Don't just aim straight at your cousins solely because it's permitted- do it if you think it's the best choice for you.
^ Thats what i'm sayin, if they can work it out, they should....but then i think this concept is sometimes abused esp in pakistan, when some families will NOT allow outsiders, marriages have to be within families... one really horrific story i heard was that there was this woman who cudn't get married til she was in her 40s..cz thats when her cousin was old enough to marry her...granted that is an extreme, and i don't think its too common (or i hope not) but it does show how this concept can be abused. Just b/c it's allowed doesn't mean you HAVE to but if one does like a cousin and they want to, religion shouldn't stop them.
Since I have seen successful and healthy cousin marriages myself, I fail to see the logic against it that you keep referring to. What would you term those couples who have healthy kids, mA. In some cases, you might have to be careful but I really don't agree with your statement about how 'it's against ALL logics.'
@ shay
Well my believe says, its against all logics to marry cousins. Medically, so If we don't see it from islam , may be we don't know how to look at islam just yet.
When I got married, I had to get a marriage license first. In the marriage license it asked me and my to be wife if we were cousins. Am I to assume people who do marry cousins just lie and say they are not?
what is marriage license ? and who is treated as first cousin?
This is indeed an interesting topic! though a dilapidated one as many an arguments have taken place at various forums.
Here's my ten cents worth;
**ISLAM permits marraige between cousins. **
The medical reports and researches I have gone through.. suggest that there are no cases of perpetuality on the off-springs of the cousin couple.. being abnormal. *However, there are reports that the marraige of their (cousin couple) off-spring with cousin**** may or could produce an abnormal baby---hence it is discreetly avoided.***
My elder sister is married (1966) to my first cousin (khalazaad). She has two Masha'Allah, normal/healthy children--a son and a daughter. My father is my Nana's second cousin (chachazaad) and Masha'Allah ...we are 05 healthy/normal brothers and sisters.
In some religions marraige between cousins is not allowed and we have respect for every religion...hence we will not go into WHY NOTs?
This is indeed an interesting topic! though a dilapidated one as many an arguments have taken place at various forums.
Here's my ten cents worth;
**ISLAM permits marraige between cousins. **
The medical reports and researches I have gone through.. suggest that there are no cases of perpetuality on the off-springs of the cousin couple.. being abnormal. *However, there are reports that the marraige of their (cousin couple) off-spring with cousin**** may or could produce an abnormal baby---hence it is discreetly avoided.***
My elder sister is married (1966) to my first cousin (khalazaad). She has two Masha'Allah, normal/healthy children--a son and a daughter. My father is my Nana's second cousin (chachazaad) and Masha'Allah ...we are 05 healthy/normal brothers and sisters.
In some religions marraige between cousins is not allowed and we have respect for every religion...hence we will not go into WHY NOTs?
Khush Rahein....
In hindus, differs from region to region , in south india (Andhra Pradesh, Tamilnadu, Kerala,Karnataka) we marry cousins , my parents are first cousins and my grand parents are cousins too..
all are healthy kids
but we marry cousins of one side like children of mama( mothers's brother) and children of bua(father's sister),
Father's brother kids and mothers sister kids becomes sisters and brothers to you
but i still didn't get what marriage license is, is it same like we goto DMV and give road test and get licencse
They are not really cousins then. If my cousin from one side was marrying my cousin from the other side then both of them don't really relate in any way.
They are not really cousins then. If my cousin from one side was marrying my cousin from the other side then both of them don't really relate in any way.
nope you are confused or i confused you, see i can marry either daughter of my MAMA (My Mother's Brother) or daughter of my bua ( my father's sister) but not daughter of my Mausi (my mother's sister)/daughter of my chaha (Father's brother)
Well that is a remnant of the thriving feudal society where the women get married to a quran or a tree but to outsiders as that will mean the family wealth will pass on to the outsiders!
nope you are confused or i confused you, see i can marry either daughter of my MAMA (My Mother's Brother) or daughter of my bua ( my father's sister) but not daughter of my Mausi (my mother's sister)/daughter of my chaha (Father's brother)
nope you are confused or i confused you, see i can marry either daughter of my MAMA (My Mother's Brother) or daughter of my bua ( my father's sister) but not daughter of my Mausi (my mother's sister)/daughter of my chaha (Father's brother)
This is getting more complex than the bold and the beautiful !!
Nope, not much of a problem usually, unless you have certain strong genes.
However, it depends. Is the cousin marriage one of the few cousin marriages in the family, or are most of the marriages done within the family? Big difference. Give it a few generations, and yeah, you will see defects. My daada remarried after his first wife died. He married his cousin --> of 6 kids, 2 were mentally retarded (serious), 2 were academically very behind compared to their peers, and the other 2 were ok (although one of those has a terrible temper and is now suffering from breast cancer and the other one is a flat out trouble maker, although that's a personality issue).
There have been other instances in my family, and so lately the marriages in our family have been with outsiders.
It really depends on the law of your land (I understand Islam permits you to marry your cousin, but your Islam also tells you to be a law-abiding citizen and follow the law of the land if you're living in a non-muslim country), and it depends on your family history of illnesses and your comfort level.
If it is allowed in our religion than it is acceptable.
Over the years, due to several generations of cousins marrying within the family, medical research shows that some genetic mutation may occur. Hence the increasing number of growth and development issues in our community.
But again, that is research and our religion has a different take on it.
No it doesn't. Read your Quran and Hadith's once more. There are clear commands that ask you to marry ouside your family/tribe when you can, and that there is great blessing in this. Not so much emphasis is placed on cousin marriages; it is merely "allowed".
This is getting more complex than the bold and the beautiful !!
i have an example, my cousin married to his sister's daughter and thier both kids are mentally handicapped, doctors say this happened because he married his relative
i have an example, my cousin married to his sister's daughter and thier both kids are mentally handicapped, doctors say this happened because he married his relative
Please discourage inbreeding if you can regardless of what religious practises........Its as good as saving life !
^ oh god!! btw...the 'mentally handicapped' part is not true.....scientists have declared it a myth..since it is still practiced widely..among Asians..europeans..the mid east...Hebrews (and among the royal) Einstein's parents were 1st cousins...
i have an example, my cousin married to his sister's daughter and thier both kids are mentally handicapped, doctors say this happened because he married his relative
