koii bhii nahiiN...this is what i said...saali/bahnoi, devar/bhaabhii are meHram to each other but seclusion with them must be avoided just like you would avoid with your own sister...
...my emphasis here is that these rishtaas are meHram.
KkF: you are mixing up all sort of things here. By nikkah the only relationships which become a mehram for you are the fatherinlaw in a girls case and the motherinlaw in the guys case. The siblings of opposite sex of your spouse do not become mehram for you. Please provide a source instead of just lashing things out there as someone less aware May get misguided by your replies. In short a bhabhi is suppose to Wear hijab infront of her BIL and same Way a saali has to as well.
well, i wouldn't sleep in the same room as my sister if i have a choice of sleeping outside the room where she is...it's common courtesy...i've seen pious men avoid going home if his daughter is alone in the house...it is Islamically allowed for him to go but he avoids it still...
...obviously, this is the area of argument where you and i differ so it's not wise to impose each others thoughts. :)
Avoiding being in seclusion with your sister because you feel it's more decent and avoiding being in seclusion with your sister in law are two different things. The former is permissible while the latter isn't. In situations where a woman requires a mehram such as Hajj, it would not be valid with a brother in law.
in Islam, a saali can NOT marry her brother in law as long as her sister is married to him...they are meHram to each other...
...however, after the woman has been divorced or has died, her sister is once again becomes eligible to marry the deceased/divorced sister's husband...after death, they revert back to naa-maHram status.
Yes it is true two sisters cannot be in the same nikah at the same time.
that said, a brother's wife is na mehram to his brother, regardless of brother being alive or not. My BIL is na mehram to me eg.
Blood mehrams, in-law mehrm and rida mehrm (or dood-shareek)
Fil, dil, sil all fall under 2nd category and hence are mehrm till guy and gal are married but we have been told to keep individual level interaction to minimum take shar ka khadsha na ho
well, i wouldn't sleep in the same room as my sister if i have a choice of sleeping outside the room where she is...it's common courtesy...*i've seen pious men avoid going home if his daughter is alone in the house...it is Islamically allowed for him to go but he avoids it still...
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...obviously, this is the area of argument where you and i differ so it's not wise to impose each others thoughts. :)
There is NOTHING pious about that. Seriously, this is one of the most ridiculous things I have ever read on here.
Ok, I don't understand why people are arguing so much over this. FIL/MIL relationship is MEHRAM. SIL/BIL relationship is NA-MEHRAM. It is not rocket science people.
^ true. devar bhabi relation is non-mehram FULL-STOP. The hadith TLK quoted is authentic and the word used for BIL in three different ahadith is 'death'. I dont think there is any scope of doubts in this.
AND same goes for saali/behnoi. He is a mehram for the SIL in cases like they have to travel for umrah or hajj BUT still she cannot travel with behnoi alone and the sister (wife of behnoi) HAS to accompany. AND even then it doesnt mean it is okay for her to uncover herself infront of him.
We should refrain from portraying our own interpretation and beliefs as AUTHENTIC STATEMENTS to avoid misleading other readers.
well, i wouldn't sleep in the same room as my sister if i have a choice of sleeping outside the room where she is...it's common courtesy...i've seen pious men avoid going home if his daughter is alone in the house...it is Islamically allowed for him to go but he avoids it still...
...obviously, this is the area of argument where you and i differ so it's not wise to impose each others thoughts. :)
Wow..
Might sound harsh but I actully find the idea of a parent avoiding their own child a bit twisted..
I think the common courtesy is being mixed with 'piousness'.
There is nothing wrong for parent to be in same room even sleeping in same room where their adult children sleep or brother sister sleep... on separate beds.
There are people who cannot afford to have separate rooms for everyone.
On purely social or cultural basis, it just seems a bit tacky since everyone needs some privacy as an adult.
I think the sister of wife is Moakat Mehram. She is Mehram until her sister is married to the man.
Sounds harsh but caution should be applied since the man can still marry her later, and may start getting wrong ideas of possibly divorcing his wife to get married with her sister...if they get too close too often. One never knows.
