Fil and dil are mehram. Simply put, Mehram are the people you can never marry, means they are haraam on you (hence the word mehram). Marrying her own susar is haraam, so susar is mehram.
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I have one friend where it's not that easy. Her husband does not TELL her that she can't leave the room, but her FIL believes that he should not SEE the FACE of any na-mehram, and his DIL becomes a na-mehram, so if the FIL is in the living room, she can't go out there.
Whole arrangement makes no sense to me, because the husband lives in another state for work and travels back and forth, and as her FIL and MIL don't know how to drive, she drives them around. Weird, I guess her FIL doesn't go out of the home then, because he'd have to sit with his DIL.
Just bizarre.
This is especially bizarre, because DIL is mahram of her FIL.
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Fil and dil are mehram. Simply put, Mehram are the people you can never marry, means they are haraam on you (hence the word mehram). Marrying her own susar is haraam, so susar is mehram.
not always true though...saaliyaaN are meHram as long as their sister is married to the guy...means you can NOT have TWO or more sisters in your nikaaH...it's Haraam so they are meHram as long as the couple stay married...
...after the wife is divorced or dies, the guy CAN marry his EX-wife's sister.
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not always true though...saaliyaaN are meHram as long as their sister is married to the guy...means you can NOT have TWO or more sisters in your nikaaH...it's Haraam so they are meHram as long as the couple stay married...
...after the wife is divorced or dies, the guy CAN marry his EX-wife's sister.
No, saalis are not mehram. Your mehram is someone who is permanently haram for you for marriage. If a man's son had a woman in his nikah, the man's father would never be able to marry the woman his son had in his nikah, whether the son is alive or not.
^ right. Saali needs to parda karo from Bil, even when he is married to her sister
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^ right. Saali needs to parda karo from Bil, even when he is married to her sister
NO...i don't think so...saali bahnoii are buddy buddy...lol...since the relationship is NOT Haraam...they do NOT have to cover their hair for instance...normal clothes will be fine. men and women should exercise caution not to be alone in the same room...coz when a man and a woman meet in seclusion the third one present is always the shaitaan who whispers fuzooliyaat in their ears. it's best to avoid.
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No, saalis are not mehram. Your mehram is someone who is permanently haram for you for marriage. If a man's son had a woman in his nikah, the man's father would never be able to marry the woman his son had in his nikah, whether the son is alive or not.
i think you better check with an aalim...if i say something, you may not believe me because i am NOT an aalim.
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i think you better check with an aalim...if i say something, you may not believe me because i am NOT an aalim.
I have heard it from an aalim. Any woman a man's son had in his nikah will never permissible for his father, whether the nikah remained intact or not. Also, a woman that the father had in his nikah will never be halal for the son, whether the nikah of the father remained intact or not.
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I have heard it from an aalim.
well, check it again and ask specifically if you have access to one.
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well, check it again and ask specifically if you have access to one.
Or if you don't believe me, check with your aalim. I've heard about these masa'il just a couple of days ago.
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Or if you don't believe me, check with your aalim. I've heard about these masa'il just a couple of days ago.
ok...we may agree to disagree...thank you.
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well, check it again and ask specifically if you have access to one.
If you think about it if a brother in law can marry a saali when the wife dies, how can she be mehram? Although of course i don't officially know. better to ask.
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If you think about it if a brother in law can marry a saali when the wife dies, how can she be mehram? Although of course i don't officially know. better to ask.
in Islam, a saali can NOT marry her brother in law as long as her sister is married to him...they are meHram to each other...
...however, after the woman has been divorced or has died, her sister is once again becomes eligible to marry the deceased/divorced sister's husband...after death, they revert back to naa-maHram status.
NO…i don’t think so…saali bahnoii are buddy buddy…lol…since the relationship is NOT Haraam…they do NOT have to cover their hair for instance…normal clothes will be fine. men and women should exercise caution not to be alone in the same room…coz when a man and a woman meet in seclusion the third one present is always the shaitaan who whispers fuzooliyaat in their ears. it’s best to avoid.
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You are kidding, right?
'Uqba b. Amir Radi Allaho Anho reported Allah’s Messenger Sallallaho Alaihey wasallam as saying: Beware of getting, into the houses and meeting women (in seclusion). A person from the Ansar said: Allah’s Messenger Sallallaho Alaihey wasallam , what about husband’s brother, whereupon he said: Husband’s brother is like death.
Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5400
What is the difference between bhabhi-devar and saali-behnoi?
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You are kidding, right?
'Uqba b. Amir Radi Allaho Anho reported Allah's Messenger Sallallaho Alaihey wasallam as saying: Beware of getting, into the houses and meeting women (in seclusion). A person from the Ansar said: Allah's Messenger Sallallaho Alaihey wasallam , what about husband's brother, whereupon he said: Husband's brother is like death. Sahih Muslim, Book 026, Number 5400
What is the difference between bhabhi-devar and saali-behnoi?
koii bhii nahiiN...this is what i said...saali/bahnoi, devar/bhaabhii are meHram to each other but seclusion with them must be avoided just like you would avoid with your own sister...
...my emphasis here is that these rishtaas are meHram.
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koii bhii nahiiN...this is what i said...saali/bahnoi, devar/bhaabhii are meHram to each other but seclusion with them must be avoided just like you would avoid with your own sister...
...my emphasis here is that these rishtaas are meHram.
There is nothing wrong with being in seclusion with your own sister or anyone who is a mehram for that matter. If they have to avoid being in seclusion, they're not mehram.
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There is nothing wrong with being in seclusion with your own sister or anyone who is a mehram for that matter. If they have to avoid being in seclusion, they're not mehram.
well, i wouldn't sleep in the same room as my sister if i have a choice of sleeping outside the room where she is...it's common courtesy...i've seen pious men avoid going home if his daughter is alone in the house...it is Islamically allowed for him to go but he avoids it still...
...obviously, this is the area of argument where you and i differ so it's not wise to impose each others thoughts. :)
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A FIL can technically marry a bride of his son and I assume that it would be appropriate if his son left her or he died. FIL would be a na mehram.
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koii bhii nahiiN...this is what i said...saali/bahnoi, devar/bhaabhii are meHram to each other but seclusion with them must be avoided just like you would avoid with your own sister...
...my emphasis here is that these rishtaas are meHram.
Saali/bhenoi and devar/jheeth/bhabhi are non mehrams for each other. the criteria put by Islam for mehram and non mehram is based on as Mehram= someone you can not marry in any case whether before marriage or after the divorce/passing away of your spouse.
Non-Mehram= someone you can marry and someone you can marry later after the divorce/passing away of your spouse.
so BILs and SILs are not mehram.
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A FIL can technically marry a bride of his son and I assume that it would be appropriate if his son left her or he died. FIL would be a na mehram.
ewww, no FIL can not marry his DIL whats so ever.