Fight with husband

Hi All,

I live in the US, my Husband is in Saudia. I’ve applied for him for Spouse visa. We were married in August 2011. I’m still waiting for him to come to the US. Due to our long distance relationship we tend to end up in arguements on the phone. Because of the timeing difference and because I work, we talk on the weekends. My husband doesnt like that I work. And on several occasions has mentioned this. In the beinning I would argue saying that if you didnt want a wife that works you should have married a housewife, why did you choose me, we discussed this before our engagement. Since he would still bring it up, I started telling him, ok, I’ll quit and come live with you. When I say this, then he says no its good you work. A couple of times he has like indirectly mentioned, that women who work, have like scandels and affairs. He has said this about 4 times. The first time I cried and said that i have never cheated on you, and I just go to work to work. I dont flirt and I dress conservativly, I said that if I was that kind of girl I wouldn’t have gone to pakistan and gotten married. I would have found a boyfriend here and gotten married. He called my mom and said that oh you daughter said that she would have married her boyfriend in the US. Basically he said that I had affairs before. My mom said that Im a good girl and Im not that type. The other 2 times he mentioned this type of stuff, he said oh your mom yelled at me. I would say look if I said something about any of your female family members what would u say?On that he stays quite. Recently He again said that oh, after we have kids, you will stay at home, and not work. I said that we have discussed this so manytimes. and if you had an issue, why did you marry me. I told you from the beginning that I want to work. He said no girls flirt with guys and … I said thats it, I want a divorce, I can’t live where you continuously say these things to me. I was like I am going to cancel your visa. You ruined my life. If you wante to act like this you could have married a housewife, or a divorced lady. Why did you have to ruin my life. I said that your sister, had a love marrage. When we got married my whole family was involved. I said that your mother and your sisters must be doing things like this, and Hung up.

Basically he called me three times after that, he never said sorry, but in his own way he tried to make up. When I finaly forgave him. I said that the next time you mention somthing like this it will be very bad. Then he called me and cried saying that you said bad things about my mom. I said sorry, but at that time I was basically ending the whole thing. And if I said that about you you wouldn’t have cared.

Now he is like very hurt that I said things about his mom. But frankly speaking, Im human too. I told him that if I was characterless, I wouldnt have cared, but you are insulting me over and over. I said that obviously my parents have trust in me, they let me work, in my family a girl doing stupid things liek taht is very bad. In the end I told him that if you want me to quit fine, send me 1000 a month. I make 4000 a month, im only asking for 1000, and I will quit. But Then i cant give you affidavit of support.

Anyway, my question is that is there anyway to get overthis. I mean when I said those things, I was really just endign the relationship. because its the 4th time he has said stuff like that. And I work verylong hours, when he comes to the us I dont want him to question me like this if I come home late. I am a manager, and during our deadlines I work till like 12/1 a couple times a week.

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was he crying because u told him he wouldnt get his us visa…:nahi:

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I dont have any suggestions as to what you should do. But I understand where you're coming from. I would personally be very furious if my husband or anyone else said things like that to me. He seems to have trust issues and I dont think he will let it go so easily what you said about his mother and sister. Was it a total arrange marriage?

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Clearly the guy has very strong feelings about you working with guys and I certainly dont think that it will help if you're working long hours. Maybe its time to involve the elders to have this matter cleared once for all? I mean the situation might be more difficult if he comes to US and still acts like this?

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He will continue this pattern over time,of behaving badly indicate towards guilt/apology but not be man enough to do it & then repeat.

Rinse.Lather.Repeat.
He proly can't accept that women can work & be faithful & that too in a country like USwith all the freedom. specially when he is working in an ultra conservative society it must be clouding his "judgement".This is a fundemental difference in upbringing & mind set etc....so u have to think about whther you it is possible to compromise or it's better to get out before it's too late.

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No matter what you will do for him... he will be in a constant state of conflict. He will keep on finding the issues until you submit to him completely i.e. live, eat, dress, go-out, meet people the way he want.

Let me ask you a question? Is it the only thing you people have argued about or this is the only reason for your arguments? If yes.. then may be this could be resolved by mutual understanding + compromise + respect (on both sides). But if he keeps on picking the issues, one after another then its something very serious. How old are both of you (if you don't mind) ?

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yes, it was arranged completely. We actually met through a matchmaker in Pakistan.

Fight with husband

These types of guys don't change,he's making issues n will make issues on other things...u should think seriously abt ur future wid him n having kids...is he jus doing it becuz of the long distance relation /miss you or he's always like that?

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He is 34 and Im 28. Majority of the fighting is over stupid things, for example, he asked to borrow 4ooo so that he can go to Saudia, and after talking I agreed if he were to give me back the money in August. I asked him for it back and he said I'll give it to you in August 2015, We argued but like we didn't go to divorce, just an arguement. But this one was serious because he started bringing my personal character into question, and it was the 4th time. Usually he argues about me working, but then when I started saying ok, I'll quit and come live with you, or ok I'll quit just send me money to live on, then he doesn't bring it up. I fell like he is just one of those guys who likes to give a hard time. Frankly speaking I want to make it work. I'm 28, I already had ruksiti, and its not so easy to find someone else, expecially if you already had ruksiti. And you never know, the next person could be even worst. BTW, I never said it directly to his mother or sister, I just said it to him. The thing is I'm usually very laid back. But at this, I know that its bad to say that about a girl, but for like real Pakistanis, its terrible to say that about a girl. I had to be nasty to him or else, he would have thought yea treat her even more badly.

DreamMerchant, why would he be in a state of conflict?

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He asked me to come to see him in December, so I dont think he like hates me or anything. If he did I dont think he would bother calling me to see him. but I dont know why he is doing ti. he has mentioned that he is over sensitive. Actually when I came back from pakistan after our marrage, I left work for 3 weeks. When I came back they saved all that work for me. I was working like everday for atleast 2 months. I had difficulty calling him alot. and if i did I would talk for like 20 min and tell him i had to go to work. Alot of my friends say that this could have caused issues. Because in pakistan like people call each other everyday. My issue was that I was coming home at 1 everyday, and I was working 1 day a weekend as well. I mentioned it to him. But after 2 months I have been calling him every saturday and sunday, and any days off. I also call him if something comes up.

Give him and yourself some time. Try to stop the Visa procedure for a few months. Don't call him and try to ignore him. I've been going through this (obviously not the same issues) when my husband lived in UAE. I was really so tired of him that I started to ignore him. He realized that he was wrong. But anyways prepare yourself to live with an ashole just like I did. I took too much time to realize what hè is. Now I'm enjoying my time with my kid as à housewife. I'm planning to look for a good job after my 2nd baby. I really don't care what he thinks of me.

Sis u want her to compromise like u did,may be she can change her life for better future:)

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LMAO !!

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At the OP ,
your husband sounds like a whiner. some men just like to tell their wives off for something or the other and they don't stop.

my own husband use to love giving me grief over small things such as education, work babies etc. when i wasn't done school he had a problem, when i wasn't working he had a problem , when i didn't want kids right after shadi he had a problem. now Ive graduated with a straight A average, i have a work from home job and am delivering a baby inshallah next month and I'm pretty happy with myself, is he the happiest man on earth? umm no, he'll still find stuff occasionally to say that pisses me off.

    i used to get upset iike hell over everything that he would say  to me, till one day i decided to stop taking him and his "tanay" so seriously and told him that too. in from one ear and out the other.  you know what he said? he laughed and said that I've finally learnt how to deal with him.

he says he can't stop saying stuff, but he doesn't want me to get upset or mad or react.... if that makes sense.

nevertheless, peace prevails because of my new policy and we are much happier, i know i am.

Ofcourse, your case is different, but I think the whole long distance thing is getting to him. Talk to him less and don't talk about work so much, just a few minutes chat every other day for chair khairyat. trust me, you will have less issues. I hope your problems are sorted out soon.

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I don't know about this, you wouldn't want to be married to someone knowingly that you're not compatible with each other. Marriage is about compromising if you both don't have the same ideals then how will it work? You still keep having the same fights when you're living with each other and then maybe you'll try for a kid then what?

just my two cents.

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CPA:

He already needed you to give him money to he can go visit Saudi?! At the age of 34…does he not have a job? Does he currently have a steady income?

Once he gets to the U.S…will his educational/professional background allow him to get a steady job? A job that will pay enough for him to support you and 1 or 2 kids?

Whose idea was it for him to move to the U.S.? Did you insist on both of living in the U.S. before marriage? Or did HE suggest that you sponsor him and you two live here?

I find it beyond ridiculous that he seems to have a problem with you working…yet has no problem taking money from you for his trip! :smack:

You seem like a educated woman capable of rational thought. Do you honestly believe that a 34 year old man who is used to the values of Saudi society will change his thinking and adapt to your Western lifestyle (ie. you working full-time at a job in a mixed enviornment that requires long hours)?

While I completely understand your comments regarding how difficult it is for a 28 year old to find rishtas…especially in cases where a divorce has taken place…I think you also need to some serious soul-searching. Yes you want a husband. But what are you willing to give up in order to have a husband? What comments and behavior are you willing to put up with in order to make sure you stay married? What kind of values do you want your husband to pass on to your children? Every marriage requires a certain amount of compromise. And in your case, you’re the only one who can decide what and how much YOU can comprise and still be happy.

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^That!!

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Wow, he's asking YOU For money and then has the nerve to accuse you of sleeping around??????

Did you not know anything about his nature or views on women before u got married????

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Not sure..yo..but it doesn't seem like ya have done your research about this fella properly. Well this is what happens. Anyway..now live with him..since ya've chosen him as spouse. It is nothing no one can do.

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He is an engineer, when he comes to the US, he has to take something called a PE exam and then he's fine, he can get a job, pretty easily. As for knowing his views. When I first met him, I told him that I want to work, and he agreed, and before we got married, he really hid his views and basically acted like the most decent guy in the world. He started acting mean recently, I think he is just annoyed that its taking him a bit longer to come here. We all thought max one year.

Thanks to everyone for your advise. I will just learn to like deal with him. Its funny I told him today that we are really different people. You should have been honest initially, now we are stuck with each other forever. LOL his response was that he thought I would change after marrage, and that regarding job, he wasn't married then so he didnt know, that he didn't want me to work. i think one of the above posters is right, in one ear and out the other. I think he is just one of those guys that likes to talk.