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Fifty Thunder jets for Pakistan
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(4 hours ago) Today
The official said the war planes to be fully funded by China would help bolster Pakistan’s defence and add to tactical capability of its air force. – File Photo
BEIJING: China will immediately provide 50 JF-17 Thunder aircraft to Pakistan, an official said here on Wednesday.
“We will get these planes in weeks,” he said, adding that a formal agreement to that effect was likely to be signed on Thursday.
The official said Pakistan and China were already jointly producing the JF-17 aircraft, but these 50 planes would be equipped with more sophisticated avionics. He said the war planes to be fully funded by China would help bolster Pakistan’s defence and add to tactical capability of its air force.
APP adds: Ambassador to China Masood Ahmed Khan said China would provide over $400 million to Pakistan, including $100 million in soft credit and a grant of 70 million RMB, for the post-flood reconstruction and development projects.—Staff Reporter
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In last 60 years we just bought weapons around the world, now the question is what these weapons bought us?
50 well get 200 .. ..their will be no difference. *When you can't see it, how can you down it. *
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Firenze
the future air wars changing dramtically dont worry we can see just turn over our eyes little Idher Udher:D: no problem to down any flying object inside pakistani aerospace. Thunders a re cool bro.
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[quote="firenze, post:132, topic:241085"]
In last 60 years we just bought weapons around the world, now the question is what these weapons bought us?
50 well get 200 .. ..their will be no difference. *When you can't see it, how can you down it. */QUOTE
Sir maintaining a Army and having best possible weapons is order of ALLAH and second things these are the weapons because of which India didn't attacked us in 2002 and after Mumbai Attacks
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Pakistan should have brought j-10 instead or any new fighter from americans they could have easily cash on recent incidents,
What's the use of increasing quantity when opponent has better quality with even higher quantity.
Edit:oops didn't check funded by china not bad deal :)
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dont worry our Pilots could hit an eagle with Ghulail even riding on a paper plane:D: quantity or quality doesnt work sometimes a brave heart and love for homeland is enough.
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well i'm sure our army engineers and military scientists had already examined the leftware parts of that stealth chopper. They might and should find a way to detect it by now.
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Chinese should also send some honest military officers with those planes.
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BTW JF-17 is not the best of what China can offer to Pakistan. There are plans for the advanced J-10s that are equivalent or even superior to F-16s. JF-17 will be a second line fighter of PAF replacing aging F-7s and Mirages. They are only good to counter Indian planes and can't take on American planes.
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dont worry our Pilots could hit an eagle with Ghulail even riding on a paper plane:D: quantity or quality doesnt .
Lol what makes you think that, when was the last time PAF were tested in real battle field hmmm 71 war
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Pak China Friendship Forever 
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Lol what makes you think that, when was the last time PAF were tested in real battle field hmmm 71 war
LOL that was not a war, it was a game. A very Dirty game
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BTW JF-17 is not the best of what China can offer to Pakistan. There are plans for the advanced J-10s that are equivalent or even superior to F-16s. JF-17 will be a second line fighter of PAF replacing aging F-7s and Mirages. ** They are only good to counter Indian planes **and can't take on American planes.
Lol what indian planes sukhoi 30 or new rafale/eurofighter,as above last time paf and iaf went head to head was in 65 war, after kargil IAF has under gone huge upgrade,india is working on sukhoi T-50 stealth plane with russians to match raptor quality,equally funded by both india and russia, by time it comes out americans might have 6th gen fighter.
Pakistan best chance would have been either get J-10 or bargain deal from american for recent events likes of f-18
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LOL that was not a war, it was a game. A very Dirty game
So it makes 1965 war
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hey bro.
I am not here to discuss about what you have and what we.
we have something and thats better then nothing. Alhamdolillah
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Lol what indian planes sukhoi 30 or new rafale/eurofighter,as above last time paf and iaf went head to head was in 65 war, after kargil IAF has under gone huge upgrade,india is working on sukhoi T-50 stealth plane with russians to match raptor quality,equally funded by both india and russia, by time it comes out americans might have 6th gen fighter.
Pakistan best chance would have been either get J-10 or bargain deal from american for recent events likes of f-18
You have to find out yourself what India currently uses, so I am not getting into that debate.
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hey bro.
I am not here to discuss about what you have and what we.
we have something and thats better then nothing. Alhamdolillah
Kool,i don't want to disscuss further.
Btw nice deal if it is fully funded by chinese
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Lol what indian planes sukhoi 30 or new rafale/eurofighter,as above last time paf and iaf went head to head was in 65 war, after kargil IAF has under gone huge upgrade,india is working on sukhoi T-50 stealth plane with russians to match raptor quality,equally funded by both india and russia, by time it comes out americans might have 6th gen fighter.
Pakistan best chance would have been either get J-10 or bargain deal from american for recent events likes of f-18
Pakistan wasn't operating AWACs or air refuelers (will take more time to integrate) and the only capable jets were f16s which were being cannibalized to keep some of the fleet flying. I think even France had embargoed some of the ROSE upgraded jets that were in france at the time of kargil or even if they didn't, then those jets were not available to be deployed. Pakistan might not have a match for flankers yet, but surely the alarm show by the IAF chief must have some merit to it viz the PAF modernization plans.
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Yes pakistan can modernise to match IAF in next couple of years.at same time india won't be satisfied with current equipment.many people in india feel congress is little soft compare to bjp government, actually since 2004 when they have taken government defence budget is almost tripled,i dunno before 2004, now it's almost 30-50 billion usd,current budget for 2011-12 is 36 billion usd
