Female Circumcision

Female Circumcision

So - what is female circumcision, or - as it is also increasingly known - “female genital mutilation (FGM)”? Several procedures, varying in severity, are in fact grouped together under this name; it is important to be aware of the distinctions:

  1. Circumcision (also known as “Sunnah”): This involves removing the hood or tip of the clitoris. It is the mildest of the procedures known as “female circumcision,” and is the only form which may be regarded as having any kind of Islamic sanction, being mentioned in the Hadith above as a practice which the Prophet (saws) allowed.

  2. Excision: This is an “intermediate” operation, in which the clitoris and all or part of the labia minora are removed. This has no basis in Islam, is detrimental to the woman, and is haram.

  3. Infibulation: This is the most radical procedure. The clitoris, labia minora, and at least the anterior two-thirds of the labia majora are removed. The two sides of the vulva are then pinned or sutured together, leaving a small (often inadequate) opening for the passage of urine and menstrual blood. Upon marriage, the infibulated woman has to be “opened up” with a knife or other instrument. She has to be “opened up” to deliver a baby, and will be re-stitched after childbirth. This horrific procedure cannot be sanctioned by any Islamic text, and is definitely Haram.

It is important to make a clear distinction between the “Sunnah” procedure and the more extreme operations. For the purpose of this discussion, I will use the word “Sunnah” (in quotes) to refer to the minimal operation which - according to one Hadith - was allowed, but not enjoined or encouraged, by the Prophet (saws), and female genital mutilation or FGM to refer to the more extreme procedures.

**Not unique to Islamic cultures **

It is those two more extreme procedures which give rise to the most concern, and these are the ones which are usually focused on by critics when female circumcision is discussed. These are also the procedures, for which there is no basis whatsoever in Islamic teaching, although Islam is often blamed for the practice. In fact, “female circumcision” is practiced by peoples of all religions - Christians and animists, as well as Muslims - in the regions where it is common. So it cannot be described as a uniquely “Islamic” phenomenon. Female circumcision is common in several parts of Africa, notably Egypt, Sudan, Somalia and Ethiopia. It is also known in parts of Arabia and in Malaysia and Indonesia. However, in other parts of the Muslim world, such as Syria, Pakistan, etc., it is unknown. The custom is one of great antiquity. It is mentioned by Herodotus (seventh century BCE) and is regarded by many as dating back to Pharaonic times. Curiously enough, clitoridectomy (removal of the clitoris) was a common procedure until fairly recent times in the West, as a cure for “hysteria” and other oddly-defined ailments, and there are strange reports from medieval times of the lengths knights would go to in order to guarantee the fidelity of their wives while they were away fighting battles (chastity belts and all that). Hence it should be clear that FGM is not a uniquely Islamic custom, although, regrettably, many Muslims believe FGM to be lslamically sanctioned.

A girl’s ordeal

The trauma of such radical surgery is compounded by the fact that these operations are almost always carried out in non-sterile conditions, with old or rusty implements, by traditional “midwives” who have little, if any, knowledge of proper surgical procedures. Anesthesia is virtually unknown, and infection is an ever-present threat, in addition to the severe trauma caused by such radical surgery.

In most cultures where “Sunnah” or FGM are practiced, the operation usually takes place in early girlhood, before the onset of puberty (menarche). It is a leitmotif in the writings of modern Arab feminist writers, notably Nawal El Saadawi, who uses this and other “women’s issues” as a stick with which to beat Islam, and is a favorite topic among anthropologists. Circumcision represents just one part of a whole socio-cultural belief system regarding relationships between the sexes, femininity, virginity, etc. Some critics and activists would like to see the whole lot come tumbling down, of course, but looking at these important issues, one can see that the popular beliefs among Muslim communities where these procedures are common, may have their starting-point in Islamic values (such as the importance of chastity, segregation of the sexes, etc.), although they may have been taken to extremes, and/or distorted along the way by being mixed with local pre-Islamic or non-Islamic ideas and customs.

**Medical and Psychological Consequences **

When we turn to the medical and psychological consequences of FGM, we can see that these procedures cause more problems than they are supposed to solve.

Medical: as stated above, most procedures are carried out in unsanitary conditions. In the autumn of 1995, I watched a Canadian-made documentary on female circumcision on CBC-TV, in which footage of an actual circumcision was shown - with the worst details blanked out (although viewers still had to endure hearing the child’s screams). The operation was carried out in an earthen-floored hut in Ethiopia. Nawal El Saadawi, from a middle-class Egyptian family, describes her own circumcision taking place in the family’s bathroom. Anesthesia is uncommon, although one writer describes a Sudanese midwife using proper surgical sutures, lint, etc. having received some medical training from the government. This midwife also told the anthropologist of methods used in the past: no anesthesia and, in the case of Infibulation, the use of thorns to hold the flesh together. No doubt such unsanitary practices still prevail in some areas of the world.

Infection is an ever-present threat. There is also the risk of error at the hands of untrained dayas (traditional midwives), leading to severe hemorrhaging and shock (in both the medical and psychological senses). Infertility, chronic pelvic infections, menstrual problems are also mentioned frequently.

Complications also arise, inevitably, when these excised and infibulated women marry and have children. One can barely imagine the trauma involved in getting married in the first place; suffice to say that one writer refers to a special “honeymoon hut” far enough removed from other dwellings that no-one will be able to hear the bride’s screams.

Western doctors who have to treat infibulated women may find the experience shocking. Dr Mary McCaffery, a London obstetrician, wondered how a baby could “get out of a tiny hole surrounded by scar tissue.” This doctor operates to remove scar tissue several weeks before the baby is due. The operation takes place under general anesthetic, but even then “some of the women scream when their genitals are touched. The pain is not just physical - it goes very, very deep and will be with them forever.”

Moral/psychological: The comment quoted above also indicates that the trauma experienced by circumcised/infibulated women goes beyond the physical. Sexual frigidity is not uncommon, so it is clear that although this practice is supposed to guarantee the virginity of brides, it is hardly conducive to a satisfying married life - a right which Islam gives to both men and women.

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*CIRCUMCISION OF GIRLS *

It is clear that circumcision for boys is obligatory. However, does this apply to females or is it particular to the males? This is what we will discover - if Allah wills.

With regard to females then the scholars have three opinions:

(1) Some scholars - such as the Shaafi'ees, and a narration from Ahmad hold that it is obligatory upon the females.

(2) The majority - such as the Hanafees, the Maalikees, the Hanbalees and others - hold that it is prescribed for women and is recommended (mustahabb).

(3) Others hold that it is not prescribed for them (at all) - and this is a weak saying.

*Discussion and Arrival at the Preferred View *

Perhaps the closest of the sayings to the truth - and Allah knows best - is that circumcision is prescribed for women and allowed for them but it is not an obligation, and that is due to the following:

(1) The Prophet's saying: "When the two circumcised parts unite (in sexual contact) then bathing becomes obligatory." [Saheeh: Reported by Ahmad and al-Baihaqee (Saheehul-Jaami':385)] is a proof of its prescription and permissibility for women, since the two circumcised parts are those of the male and those of the female. Ahmad said: "This shows that the women used to be circumcised."

(2) The saying of the Messenger (peace be upon him) in the hadeeth of Umm 'Atiyyah to a female circumciser: "When you circumcise then do not cut severely, since that is better for her and more pleasing to the husband." [Reported by Abu Dawood and al-Baihaqee and declared 'hasan' by Shaikh al-Albaanee in 'as-Saheehah (No. 722)]

(3) And to those who declare it to be obligatory upon the women, then it is said: Rather the order refers to the men and it is not correct to transfer the ruling to the women, since they differ from men in their nature and constitution and there is no proof for its obligation upon them except for an analogy - and that cannot be applied here as we have mentioned.

(4) As for the hadeeth of Umm 'Atiyyah then it shows no more than an allowance as has preceded, not an obligation - and Allah knows best.

*Discussion about the Circumcision of Girls *

Some doctors and others try to belittle female circumcision and claim that it is harmful, an evil custom and is detrimental to health. However, this is a false claim since a number of doctors have affirmed that it produces a number of benefits, some of which we will mention when discussing the wisdom of circumcision.

The harm that is attributed to this operation cannot be ascribed to circumcision itself, rather to two matters:

(i) Cutting too severely - as occurs in some Islamic lands - such that the clitoris or its hood is totally removed, indeed sometimes even the outer lips (labia) are removed and the vaginal orifice closed. It is essential to point out here that this is not the prescribed Sharee'ah method of circumcision but rather a barbaric act rejected by Islam and forbidden by the Messenger (peace be upon him) who warned against it saying: "When you circumcise then do not do so severely ..."

(ii) Or the harm is also due to this operation being carried out by those who do not specialize in this field, or by the use of unsterilized instruments which causes infection or harmful illnesses.

So when we consider this harm, we find that it is not caused by circumcision itself, but rather by contradicting the text forbidding cutting severely, or by using unhygienic instruments, and this cannot be used to prevent the operation itself - if properly performed - since if male circumcision were to be performed by cutting to excess or with unhygienic instruments - then that would also be detested and rejected. So would this be a reason to prevent male circumcision so the same goes with regard to females.

So from what has preceded it becomes clear that female circumcision - if done correctly - such that the cutting is limited, and done with proper instruments - is something prescribed and produces health and psychological benefits - and is far removed for harmful effects or danger.

Female circumcision shares some of the (physical) benefits of male circumcision, and has extra benefits particular to it - some of them being mentioned by our Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) who said that it is: "Better for the woman and more pleasing to the husband" and that it is: "Better for the face and more pleasing to the husband" [Reported by al-Baihaqee ('as-Saheehah' No. 722)]

And as is known these benefits do not reach the level of importance of the benefits of male circumcision. However, they are benefits and productive of good effects.

Here are some of the benefits which have been discovered:

(i) A reduction of infections resulting from microbes gathering under the hood of the clitoris.

(ii) Attacks of herpes and genital ulcers are less severe and less harmful with men and women who have been circumcised.

(iii) A further benefit that is apparent for them and more so for their husbands, is that women of hot climates often have a large clitoris which arouses their desires when it rubs against the adjacent clothing. It may even grow to such a size that sexual intercourse is not possible. Therefore, circumcision reduces her desires and their effects in the first case, and makes intercourse possible in the second. [Adapted from an article in 'al-Mujtami' magazine entitled: 'Circumcision and Modern Illness' No. 931]

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What the heck? I think the funniest part to this whole thing and believe me, I had to really stretch to find funny, was this part:

Apparently this person is really stretching to find anything to justify this and is obviously not in the medical field. What a crock of s***. On a side note, if a clitoris is that big, it’s a guy :rolleyes:

btw - any way of finding out which century this was written in and the credentials of the writer? I am assuming he has a religious degree since medicine has never condoned this, but where? How about even a link?

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What the hell. In all my life I have never heard of female circumcision ever being a Sunnah. What in the world is all this? There is nothing about this being alright in Islam, nothing at all.

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MQ is right. Back up your statements with sahih hadith.

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M_Q - Just wondering is this culture being mistaken for religion? Where did this idea come from? Serious question with no offense attached...

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The greater question is if the schools of interpretation named by ranjhan actually prescribe this and are the source of supposed divine of prophetic mandates..what other horse siht have they come up with.

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I always thought that Islam is getting maligned, and there is no femal genital removal things being sanctioned by Islam.

Now, with the first post, I guess there is some truth to these allegations.

This is so stupid.

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http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=87230

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=79655

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i have NEVER ever heard such things :disgust:

FGM is a painful procedure designed to prevent the female to have any sort of sexual pleasure

It happens in many third world nations, and is a backwards ignorant procedure

Islam does not condone this sort of behavior…

idiots :mad:

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Ranjhan, for God's sake DO NOT mix Islam in this nonsense. Female circumcision is nor prescribed nor recommended by Islam. Keep this kind of crap for fiction. Mods please get this out of religious forum, this kind of stuff gives muslims bad name. Where one person starts posting "copy & paste" without thinking about its authenticity and consequences.

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Im with the majority on this one, I always thought FGM was practiced in Africa nad some parts of the mid east because it is part of their culture.

I hope its not practiced in the Indian sub continent too.....is it practiced there?

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The links posted by Hunk debunk this article.

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Kaleem & MoA240: before you go saying no way no how and it is debunked

Source: http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/en…?hFatwaID=31397

Apparently it is left up to the father’s whim whether his daughter is multilated for the sake of Islam or not. And if he choses to, he is supported.

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I"m just waiting for the usual comments from morons: "you guys are munafiqs/kaffirs (watever the word of the day is) for calling a hadith FICTION!!! WE DON'T NEED TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU KAFFIRS, islam gave women rights , not like american whores blah blah blah blah"

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Those are not my views, just a copy and paste, female circumcision is new to me as well because nobody from Pakistan practices it, I read a Fatwa on a Q&A site saying circumcision is a compulsory Sunnah for men and an optional Sunnah for women.

I was interested in what you guys thought about this, I think you're discriminating, none of you seem to have a problem with male circumcision and don't brand it MGM then why with female circumcision? it's only the same (in the Islamic case) asking for only a small part of the prepuce/foreskin to be snipped. Can't we differentiate between the extreme and moderate types of female circumcision? A lot of the times male circumcision is mutilation as well, Islam says to cut only the skin covering the glans so that it's a loose circumcision but a lot of people go to extreme and do them high and tight, making erections and sex uncomfortable for the poor guy, why is nobody criticising that?

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For me, it is usually kaffir, beginning to see it as an endearment...

"........if you question it, they will come...."

On a serious note : Ranjhan - when male circumcision includes removing part or all of your penis as a pre-teen (not a baby) with NO anesthesia because a parent believes this will make you desirable, then you will truly be on equal footing with a female. You and I know that the hood of the clitoris is not the only thing removed and when this is done, more often than not, everything is gouged out.

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minah, your provided link does not work. I dont care what the mufti or Maulana has to say about it. It is in no way a part of Islam. If the african culture wants to portray this as Islamic ritual, may ALLAH curse them for spreading lies regarding the most beautiful religion. They are butchers and to associate this butchery to Islam is a crime. They should be hung by their balls for mutilating their daughters. enuff said.

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Sorry, Kaleem, it is the third link that the Hunk provided, I thought a copy and paste would work as I was running upstairs after I posted it :slight_smile:

Here it is again: http://www.islamonline.net/fatwa/english/FatwaDisplay.asp?hFatwaID=31397

I understand what your saying, unfortunately it seems like this is a part of Islam that needs a definite stance from whoever interprets writings (ok, not going to call husband over something like this, not sure what the procedure is or what it is called) saying that this is not condoned by Islam and is a barbaric practice, but instead it is allowed. This is not an African web-site unless I’m missing something.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this is also practiced in certain parts of the ME (Gulf)…Islamic forums, human right org have raised their opposition, but this has been going on for centuries. Has anybody read Nelson Mandela’s Road to Freedom? Mandela talks about male circumcision as practiced in his native African tribe…that was scary enough…

By the way guys, just for my info…Ahle Quraish were not Jews (only tribe practicing circumcision), then how did Muslims decide that this was Sunnah or compulsory for men? Dont want to open another thread…ppl your comments?