Fearfull Muslims adopt Hindu IDs

[Aliyish]

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@expatobserver

I don’t know why majority of Pakistani restaurants in Canada (and prolly in US and UK and Australia) have the sign Pakistan and Indian cuisine on their dukans. .

To let the world know that only Indians can cook something cloying and distasteful as chicken Tikka Masala ! Oh scuzzy !

[Mr_Fraudia]

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chicken tikka masala is friggin treat compared to the chickem-makhani found at indian joints, yuk.

[Cheegum]

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In my experience Chicken Makhani (Butter Chicken) has usually better tasting at Indian joints compared to Pakistani ones.

[Mr_Fraudia]

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I hate chicken makhani ....its almost as nasty as muttar panner...which is probably the nastiest thing on desi menu.

[Cheegum]

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Muttar Paneer is divine, what are you talking about captain lota?

[zobia]

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@Anil_Khan

The problem isn’t so much that they changed their names as much it is of the discrimination that these muslims have to face. My first name may be indian (I like to maintain that it has an aryan background) but I was born with hearing ‘Ashadan-Laillahaillah; Ashadan Muhammadarasullah; Ashadan Aliyan Amirul momeeneen Aliullah’ and inshAllah on my last breath I will recite the same kalimah. But the point is the indian muslims have to realize who their friends are and who isn’t.

wat they gonna get when they find out?
xtra heart attacks or wat?

[Mostar95]

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@Anil_Khan

Wake up Indian muslims!!!! These kafffirrs will not let you live in peace. Even our holy Quran states that DO NOT befriend kafirs.

What should they do then? What would you advise?

[pallavpotter]

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strangely none of my Muslim friends have changed their name.
Nazeel Sabbah remained Nazeel Sabbah only, not Narasimha Sen.
Hanif Alam Lashkar remained Hanif Alam Lashkar, not Hrituraj Amar Lajpat.
Salma Sultana hasnt become Sanjana Sankar.
you want more examples ???

[saaretjie]

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muttar paneer...

Is that... peas and cheese... C'mon, what's wrong with you!?

Anyway

Why is our response to people who hate us always, "let's hate them more"?

Why don't we rather try and show them the same kindness we afford our muslim brothers and sisters so that they can appreciate the beauty of Islam

[expatobserver]

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@Fraudz

marketing mon ami...marketing... more indians in population, and more ppl in non desi population who know what Indian food is. the shop keepers are just expanding their target base.

The question was rhetorical. Of course that is exactly the reason why Muslim shopkeepers in India adopt Hindu names, something that completely escapes the likes of Anil (hate India 24/7) Khans but shouldn't escape you.

[expatobserver]

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@pallavpotter

strangely none of my Muslim friends have changed their name. Nazeel Sabbah remained Nazeel Sabbah only, not Narasimha Sen. Hanif Alam Lashkar remained Hanif Alam Lashkar, not Hrituraj Amar Lajpat. Salma Sultana hasnt become Sanjana Sankar. you want more examples ???

We want a picture of Salma.

[expatobserver]

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@Mostar95

What should they do then? What would you advise?

For one thing, I will tell three muslims (1 Pakistani, two Iranis) who work for me not to befriend me, a kaafir.

[Anil_Khan]

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@expatobserver

The question was rhetorical. Of course that is exactly the reason why Muslim shopkeepers in India adopt Hindu names, something that completely escapes the likes of Anil (hate India 24/7) Khans but shouldn't escape you.

Big difference between putting a country's name on a advertising board and changing your NAME to accomidate the hindooooos.

I think my response to your initial question is more appropriate.

[lakkis25]

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@Anil_Khan

Okay, i'll try not to mudsling (although I don't think i did in my earlier posts; i coulda said a lot worse but chose to take the high road).

For me personally, muslims from wherever are my bretheren. But to be brutally honest, I would prefer Pak muslims to any other muslims. I know its wrong and its something i struggle with because we are all momeens; but on another level the preference makes sense because we all like what is familiar and to me Pakistanis are familiar.

And whatever you said isn't factually incorrect but I don't see why we have bring in pakistan's problems whenever we make mention of the hindoos' shortcomings; every country in the world has domestic problems. In this thread we are discussing the chronic mistreatment of muslims by the hindoos. Yet what's staggering is the loyalty that the new generation of indian muslims has for hindustan; i can't believe it! Its like they are the ones who have their heads buried in sand 'cause they're not acknowledging the past and present problems that they're people have faced.

Listen, I think hindoos can do whatever they want. If they want to do idolism, I'm fine with it; really, I am. But I just wish that South east asian muslims and ESPECIALLY Pakistanis make active and sincere effort to distance ourselves from the hindoos. They can be happy with their culture and lifestyle and us with ours. We should really promote our own products, our own entertainment, and our own islamic culture because after all WE HAVE OUR OWN IDENTITIY and it doesn't include being grouped with indian practices or values.

Anil
South east Asia is Malaysia, Indonesia, Philipines,etc... and south asia is India , Pakistan, Afghan, Srilanka, Nepla etc...

[pallavpotter]

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@expatobserver

We want a picture of Salma.

well Salma is really Sarmili.
even on the bottom of any sms her male friends(including me) send her, we have to write a female name.
she fears her father will kill her if he knows that a boy sends sms to her.
but then phoning her is strangly perfectly okay !!!!:D

[zobia]

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@pallavpotter

well Salma is really Sarmili. even on the bottom of any sms her male friends(including me) send her, we have to write a female name. she fears her father will kill her if he knows that a boy sends sms to her. but then phoning her is strangly perfectly okay !!!!:D

n wat if her father wont say ny thing. then would she gonna do the same as ur other female frndz?

[mYsTeRiOuS_gUy]

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Not surprised at all, my INDIAN muslim friend from Lucknow has told me some unbelieveable stories, it's a huge problem if you need a house for rent there. Almost all hindus will refuse to rent thir house to MUSLIMS. Getting a job can be a big problem as well, it doesn't mean muslims don't get any jobs but discrimination is just unbelievable.
Despite of all that, he was patriotic Indian and almost hated Pakistan and always pretended to be a FRIEND.

[pallavpotter]

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n wat if her father wont say ny thing. then would she gonna do the same as ur other female frndz?

cough cough, i quite didnt get it!

[Mostar95]

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People should stop bashing Indian muslims. They are doing their best to live in their own country.

I know people of the present Pakistan had a great part in Pak's independence but if the muslims of Bengal and India would have not supported and voted for Pakistan, Pakistan would have not come into existence.

[fair_balance]

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@smooth_guy

Not the best thing to share on Independent day of neighbouring country, but couldn’t resist. It might be just staring this way that people are hiding their ID as some poor desis do in west. But by looking at the dire situation of Muslims in general in India, this doesn’t come as a shocker. Muslims are equally responsible for their current state. They didn’t do enough to vamp up their youths in education, after 5 generations, they are still paying for it.

Fearful Muslims adopt Hindu IDs

In India, many members of religious minority hide the signs of their faith to escape discrimination

August 15, 2007
Shaikh Azizur Rahman
SPECIAL TO THE STAR

CALCUTTA–On a busy street in Calcutta’s business district, he runs a food stall called “Rajib’s Paratha” and is known as Rajib Mallick.

Using the popular Hindu name, no one suspects he is Rajab Ali Mollah, a Muslim who has adopted a fictitious identity to blend in with the neighbourhood’s mostly Hindu office workers.

Sohrab Hossain, a Muslim student who came to the city to complete his Masters degree in English and lives in a Hindu-dominated housing complex, is known as Sourav Das among the students he tutors. To keep up his Hindu appearance he has a small idol of Saraswati, the Hindu goddess of learning, on his desk.

Every morning as she prepares to go to work as a fishmonger, Hasina Khatoon takes off her silver armband embossed with “Allah” in Arabic, puts vermillion powder on her forehead and red-white conch bangles on her wrist – symbols of a married Hindu woman – to maintain a Hindu appearance in a fish market where almost all of her customers are Hindus.

Rajab Mollah, Sohrab Hossain and Hasina Khatoon say they have adopted new identities in a Hindu-majority society where as Muslims they would face discrimination.

Analysts say many Muslims from all socio-economic backgrounds are quietly hiding their religious affiliation.

“Muslims in almost all spheres of life face a communal discrimination by powerful Hindus and they are denied many of their basic rights and freedom in an unjustified way,” said Anjan Basu, a social analyst and executive editor of Pratidin, a Bengali daily in Calcutta.

Six decades after Partition, “many (Hindus) believe that Pakistan was created for Muslims and now they do not have right to live in India, which is meant for Hindus.”

The Partition of India 60 years ago was a highly controversial arrangement, and remains a cause of much tension on the subcontinent today.

Basu, who is a Hindu, also said discrimination has been “institutionalized,” with many Muslims being denied employment in government and private-sector offices where 90 to 95 per cent jobs are held by Hindus.

Gautam Ray, a senior journalist with Calcutta’s largest Bengali daily Anandabazar Patrika, said that since the bulk of the dalits (low-caste Hindus or so-called Untouchables) converted to Islam when the religion spread in India, many upper-caste Hindus look down on Muslims as they had for generations looked down on dalits.

“The root of this communal discrimination is deeply entrenched in the society and most of these communal Hindus are not expected to change their feeling for Muslims any time soon,” said Ray, who is also an upper-caste Hindu. “Muslims are often denied housing in Hindu-dominated modern residential complexes,” he added.

“This communal discrimination against Muslims will not end unless Hindus themselves change their attitude. But we do not see hope of any such positive social change anytime soon.”

Muslims who adopted fake Hindu identities believe they did nothing wrong by hiding their original identities.

“Ten years ago, when my house and land in the village was eaten up by a river and I came to Calcutta in search of a job, almost all street shops and restaurants in the city refused to employ me because I was a Muslim,” Mollah said.

“Some said their Hindu customers could refuse to eat at their restaurants if a Muslim worked there,” he said.

“But I met a Muslim man who worked under a Hindu identity to supply water to restaurants. I followed his advice, picked up a Hindu identity and soon an upper-class Hindu employed me to run a food stall.”

Nearly all of Mollah’s customers are Hindus and he fears his business would suffer disastrously if his customers found out he is a Muslim.

“I don’t think I have done anything wrong because I know how they hate Muslims simply because of their religion,” he added.

A federal commission recently found that Muslims “live in socio-economic conditions worse than many so-called backward tribal people,” according to commission chief Rajendra Sachar, a former judge.

In the state of West Bengal, where the Muslim community makes up 27 per cent of the population, employment of Muslims in the government sector was below 3 per cent, the Sachar Commission reported.

Some Muslim leaders see education as the key to a better future.

“If the younger generation can educate themselves, it will be difficult for even the most communal Hindus to discriminate against a new Muslim force,” said Nazrul Islam, a senior public servant and noted Calcutta writer.

“Maybe discrimination will not be wiped out completely, but an educated and powerful community of Muslims will be able to fight off the injustice, at least to a good extent.”

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This is BS. of the all the cities writer chose Calcutta which is one of the most secular cities india. I know this because I lived there. If writer hs taken example of Gujrat then I may have given it more credibility.