Fear of backlash..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4660411.stm

*sigh, as if life wasn’t bad enough for muslims because of these idiots terrorists.
plz becareful if u wear hijab, abaya or while praying in ur local mosques this friday!

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This is so sad that we've got to actually take precaution just to obey Allah (swt) in public. :(

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wtf?

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Welcome to the modern western world.

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^
You prefer Pakistan where heads roll if you're Jewish and caught in the wrong end of town CM?

The western world provides protection for minorities and prosecutes idiots who commit hate crimes, welcome to the western world you might not be use to such notions.

CM if you want to criticize parts of the western world and it's polices feel free, you are allowed to do so without physical harm and will likely find those who agree with your notions, but when you go ahead and generalize the entire western world as racist and stereotype *******s....as you just did, go fk yourself, come on.

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Sweetheart tell me this. In Egypt has any arab or muslim gone up to an american tourist and tried to beat the crap out of them? Nope.

Have they done that in the west? Yup.

The concept of innocent no longer exists once the west knows what religion you follow.

As for the Pakistan example why do you let ignorance make you look stupid?

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You know, muslims living in the West should be pretty grateful. After incessant attacks by "muslims" who think they're actually practicing their religion, if we were living a few decades ago...

We'd all be in concentration camps as of now. So, Allah ka Shukhar Adha karein aap sab, instead of complaining.

Fighting and violence is not right at all, but if one side is throwing punches (albeit, a minority that's not even accepted by the mainstream muslim as being muslim in the first place), then you can't expect that the other side will restrain itself 100%.

Hate crimes are an unfortunate inevitability in such situations. But its not as bad as being in concentration camps.

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I find the notion that the west would even think of having concentration camps after Nazi Germany pathetic and an insult to them. I have issues with the west. That is for certain, but i do not think that they would ever fall that low.

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Yea and Crime doesn’t exist in any Arab or Muslim land right CM? There are assholes no matter what lands you are in, don’t try to sell me anything else.

Did Daniel Pearll look real stupid as well CM?

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why shud they be grateful…have they done anything wrong? why shud they be punished? Its those fkers who have commited these terrorist acts…why shud the whole muslim world pay for their acts which are highly unislamic…as said by the london police chief…islam and terrorism are 2 completely seperate elements…lets not mix them
I sincerely hope that all the muslims in the West are not targeted for the acts of these a$$holes who are doing their own kind of jihad… :frowning:

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CM - the US had its own concentration camps for Japanese. Its something Americans don't like to talk much about.

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Its not an issue of crime. You have people killed on a regular basis in Iraq, Afghanistan due to americans. Are any any innocent americans attacked by your average muslim in indonesi and malaysia?

Yes or no?

Yes he did. Considering he did not inform the Pakistani Govt nor was he registered with the US mission or Pak Govt as a journalist.

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Muslims are killed in Iraq and Afghanistan on a regular basis by Muslims, what's you point?

So if your a Jew in Pakistan you're open season unless you tell the gov. you're there??

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Jazbaati na ho. It impairs your thinking skills. Trust I know, I've been there and back.

why shud they be grateful

Because it can get a lot worse than some dweeb running off with your hijab.

....have they done anything wrong?

No one said muslims have. The criticism is on Islamic extremists (okay, I dont like that phrase, but whatever, you know I'm talking about crazy mullahs). And by the way, even the mainstream Pakistani hates the imposing self-righteous pompous mullah a-hole. So, we don't disagree much from the goras, as much as some people would like to think.

why shud they be punished?

Did I say anyone should be? (amongst innocent muslim civilians living abroad)

Its those fkers who have commited these terrorist acts...why shud the whole muslim world pay for their acts which are highly unislamic....as said by the london police chief...islam and terrorism are 2 completely seperate elements...lets not mix them

Indeed, I agree with you. Most people do. But you always have the hotheads on either side. I'm only saying that expecting absolutely no reaction/retaliation from a few hotheads is being too idealistic.

All I hear is "Hai, Allah, musalmaanon ka haal bohat bura hai America/England, etc mein".

What these people don't understand is that it could very well get MUCH WORSE. And don't tell me something like Nazi Germany can't ever happen again. Nazi Germany was something any one with common sense would think could never possibly even happen, but it did, didn't it?

So please, while you're criticizing the land that decided to take your sorry behind in the first place and provide you with an income that you can go buy your chamki hui evening saris/kameez shalwar's, and that Rado watch, and that Beemer or Mercedes...

at least take a moment to appreciate the fact that despite people who are identifying themselves with the same religion you ID yourself with are off killing innocent people (note, I'm not saying London bombings were done by muslims, we don't know - I'm speaking about the general)...

The country that houses you right now is not putting your families in concentration camps for "monitoring".

If things continue the way they do with these small extremist groups acting all huffy puffy, then it might very well go down that lane.

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You can't read can you? I said yes or no. Its very simple i will break it up for you again.

  1. Muslim killed by american in Afghanistan.
  2. Due to this above cold blooded murder does an average muslim in Turkey kill an american as retribution?

Is the answer yes or no?

Its as much open season as it is in the west if you are muslim.

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Oh and another little idea to munch on…

Invading another country with the excuse of pinning down weapons of mass destruction and meanwhile violating various UN policies (while being the top dog of the UN and being responsible for the MAKING of these policies), and then turning around and shrugging when everyone finds out that it was all a lie…

You would think that in this day and age, when no one country is permitted to invade another…

counterintuitive, right? unexpected, right?

So thing what else is possible in reality? What else can possibly happen?

Someone pinning you down for wearing a hijaab is a piece of cake in comparison.

The funny thing is, about a year ago, I tried to force myself to read Washington Post. I saved the newspapers, (don’t ask why :rolleyes: long story), so I had like a year’s worth saved…

When the invasion of Iraq first began there were many articles which vehemently denied the actions of the US as “invasion”. “This is no invasion”, said those articles, “rather we’re providing relief to the people of Iraq”.

Once our soldiers were in, a few months later I saw in the same newspaper, journalists referring to our stay in Iraq as “an occupation”, or “an invasion”.

And somehow, this one thing slipped the attention of most americans. Now even Americans refer to it casually as “The Occupation”.

It worries me that people are so oblivious of the big picture. Both muslims and non-muslims.

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Muslims kill people right here in the U.S., look up some ctrime stats. CM, your point is actually pointless, you are trying to paint the west as a place where people go around intentionally killing Muslims because other Muslims commited acts of terror, it just doesn't happen and if it does those that do so go to jail. Bin Laden declared war on the U.S. and the U.S. after several terror attacks declared war against him and his supporters.
So tell me, what's your point?

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I don't go around painting that. Because after Sept 11th, it happened. That is why you refuse to answer the question and doge the subject.

The point victim of an escaped brain is that in the past years Americans have attacked innocent men and women in the US for actions they are not responsible for. They attacked innocent people based purely on racism. Same in Europe.

You don't see that in the Islamic world.

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huh? are u saying that nowhere in any of the countries referred to as the “islamic world” have people not been killed or harassed solely because of their race, religion or ethnicity?

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I pointed out D Pearl CM and can come up with others if need be, where is your head though on this one? Pick and choose your battles brother.