Re: Fazail-e-Amal
Now you guys have me all confused what with deobandis and barelvis. I just want to know whether I should read this book or not - a jamaati friend lent it to us, and its just so inviting, with so many amazing hadith and since you guys said all this I havent opened it again. 
Any substantial proof that its weak hadith?
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What school of thought do you adhere to? Its just a difference in research and not a conflice in Basic Tenets of faith (see the Deobandi, Wahabi, Ahl-e-Hadith thread opened by PCG). What some Muslims regards as week hadith, other Islamic scholars consider it correct. Before rejecting such hadith, check what their reasoning is.
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Sunni. well ramsy, I think ill have to do some research on my own. thanks for the help everyone.
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Someone asked about fazail e amal on ask-imam.com. Here’s a link if you’d like to read it:
Re: Fazail-e-Amal
Assalam o Alaikum
Fazail e aamal is a famous collection of ahdith on fazail by Moulana Zakariya who is still considerd greatest muhaditheen of his time-He spent around 50 years in teaching Sahih bikhari in darululoom saharanpur.
The book is primarily for dawah pupose-indicating how much sawab one get from doing an amal thus giving us more yaqeen on a certain ibadah- It contains sone dhaif ahadith ( Dhaif ahaidth are different from moudhow ahadith as some confuses the two)dhaif ahadith are those in which one or two narrators are weak-it does not necessarily mean that the rawaih is totaly to be rejected, however we will not take this rawaiyah in forming an opinion about fiqah but these rawaih are fine when considerd for fazail --
In fazail e aamal where ever some wek ahadith is mentioned- the fact that this is wek is mentioned -
This book is considerd the second most selling book after quran-so many muhaditheen and ulema read it daily in tableghee and other circles ye those opposing them are very few.
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How extremist is it? As in what does it say about jihad, fighting, killing, etc?
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Not at all- it is just about certain fazail primarily under these headings.
1-FAzail e namzaj
2-fazail e durood shareef
3-fazail e hajj
4-fazail e ramdhan
5-Fazail e tablegh
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I got this book as a present on my roza khushai some eons ago from none other then the aehliah of Mufti Wali Hasan, another eminent sheikh-ul-hadith in his own right and mufti-e-azam Pakistan.....
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MAshallah- i have heared so much about mufti wali hasan rehmatullah
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Yes, I feel honored to have known him. His family and my father's family and came from the same place in India (Tonk) and our ties went beyond the ethnic and familial bonds. Our two families migrated to Pakistan together and live together for many years and he continued to bless us by paying us regular visits even after moving away. A truly great man and a blessed spirit, may Allah reward him in the here after.
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Brother Bao,
Once, I went with some Tableeghis to a town whose Masjid was run by Malaysians…Those 16/17 year old Malasians knowledge was amazing…They were running a whole Masjid as students 
…
In that Masjid on the second floor, they had a whole room set up as a den, a Foosball table, television, VCR and lots of Islamic videos…
The Malaysians showed us a video tape of a seminar held by Ahl-e-Sunnah wal-Quran in which a man who had served the Deen as a Tableeghi for almost 20 years…
The man renounced the practices of TJs and said that many of their practices like inducting ill-knowledged people to give Dawah was actually harming the Message rather than helping it…
Those 16 year old kids just silenced our Ameer who had been doing Tableegh for years, simply by their knowledge and sources…
The Malaysians had one point…They said Dawah without proper protocol should not be allowed…
If you take a course in Dawah from Saudi Arabia, it takes at least 7 years to get a degree in Dawah in which your entire personality is groomed…
Although I have the deepest and most profound respect for these brothers of mine, there are some issues which makes me be wary of TJs…
Apart from that I love them for the sake of Allah :swt:…
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^ I agree with you Lajawab bhai--
and many ulema in tableghee circles are also trying to change this practise-they say that it was initialy very sucesful to give oppurtunity to say some * mewati* for delivering a bayan for dawah but know with the advent of internet etc our young generation is more analytical in thier approach- infact that was one reason why a practicaly disassociated myself with jamaat although i still consider them most effective dawah resource in the world-
we may disagree with thier approach- but their effectiveness and sincerity is beyond doubt
In raiwand thay have some brothers who are foreign qualified professionals and they are doing their research on how to improve effectiveness of dawah- these yound ppl answer directly to Abdul wahab sahib- ameer of main shuraa of pkaistan.
wasalam
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catwoman,
there are lots of books which are authentic, and sort of 'original', meaning they are from the classical scholars of Islam. Such as riyadh-us-saliheen and Imam nawawi's 40 ahadith (both available online.. lemme know if you want the urls, i'll look em up), minhaj al muslim of abu bakr al jazeary (ha). These books are relatively easy to study, if you dont want to dig into "deeper stuff" such as saheeh al bukhari etc.
People will say that calling Fazail-e-amal weak is a propaganda, but... let me assure you that even those who have always backed this book have understood how unreliable it is. It has gone through various versions... original.. edited.. revised.. researched.. blah blah.. i'm not sure which one you have, but do yourself a favor and stay away from it. Any doubts about this being propaganda? Call up the publisher and talk to him.. i think they do mention his address or number.
Pick a better book, if one isn't available in your area, then many online islamic stores carry them.
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Ammar-
Can you cite an instance where there is a change between old and new version....
Edit: Cat woman read it your self before forming an opinon about the book
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^ I'll have to ask some of the people i know in tableeghi jamat who told me that the new researched versions remove some of the weak ahadith.
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Yaar—hudd hay----yoou just posted this on the basis of some one’s own perception…
atleast - make sure what you are posting is right…
anyway- this is what i found..Ansewrs to some objections on Fazail e Aamaal
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its not on someone's perception. i have read and seen them myself, but since i dont have any copies of Fazail-e-amal handy, i can hardly quote references for you..
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I second that…
My opinion about this book is based on someone from a video of a conference…
Although I have spent a little time with TJs, I have not read the Fazaail-e-Amaal, whereas Bao has read it himself…
I would trust his opinion more…
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^ lajawab, what do you expect catwoman to do... read it, then pull up the books of hadith and ilm-ul-rijal and check to see what's included is authentic? or to read it and see if it "feels right"?
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^ Just check that the hadith quoted from authentic books or not...I also have posted a link which answers some/all of questions
And then the strongest point is - the book is about fazail not masail- call it a primary book on inducing love for aamal in some ones heart .
wasalam