Re: Fauzia Kasuri joining PMLN
father ka ghar hai awam kay lootay howwey paison ka Surrey mahal to nahin.
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This one thread alone is sufficient to display how decadent of a society we all have become. We've become degraded to a point of having no ethics or moral standing. One moment we're the claimants of being from the best Ummah that ever exists, and the minute we finish that claim we're downright to indulging in the very things it prohibits. When it concerns ourselves, we claim the highest of moral standards and expect others to tow the same line. But when it comes to others' sisters, mothers, fathers, brothers, etc. we would spare no effort to publicize their private lives, and even go as far as to add to the publicity by inserting our own spiceful remarks to further the impact.
So if such society wouldn't get the kind of leaders it has been getting, then what else kind of leaders would there be? A bad seed will always yield a sour fruit, and a sound seed will always result in a fruitful crop that is pleasing to the eye, and beneficial for the society.
Maybe we should all self-reflect before maligning others just for the sake of point scoring that will never benefit any of us, but will certainly account against us. If religion does not require such ethics, then decency surely does. Or have we lost all decency too?
Re: Fauzia Kasuri joining PMLN
Your definition of 'fun’s is surely twisted. Khair. Each of us is answerable for our own actions. If you’re at peace with everything then that’s your affair because ultimately it effects your akhirah. Keep indulging at your own peril. :k:
Re: Fauzia Kasuri joining PMLN
Aunty jee ka latest tweet
Fauzia Kasuri @FauziaKasuri](https://twitter.com/FauziaKasuri)3m
How well a mother and woman who struggled for INSAF for yrs, is treated. No place in Pak’s politics for honest women. Trolls Zindabad n thxs
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^ now famous PTI Trolls, all journalists have been crying about, are after ex-mother?
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i think she should have settled her difference internally and if she decided to go then she shouldn't have joined PML[N]...it's simply not acceptable.
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PTI releases statement on FK’s resignation.
It is with great regret that PTI has been compelled to issue the following factual clarification regarding the resignation of Ms Fauzia Kasuri from the Party. PTI has the highest regard for her work for the Party and feels it is the right of every individual to decide for themselves whether they can continue working for the ideology of PTI or not. However, it is equally the right of PTI to clarify some erroneous statements made by Ms Kasuri – given her long association with the Party one would prefer to leave out the phrase “false allegations”.
(1) The Founding members of PTI were the following: Imran Khan, Naeemul Haque, Ahsan Rasheed, Hafeez Khan (now in Canada), Mowahid Hussain Syed (now in US), Mahmood Awan (now in US), Nausherwan Burki (now in US). These seven members founded the Party in April 1996. No one else is a “founding member” while many may be very old members.
(2) Ms Kasuri was disqualified from contesting the intra-party elections because she had not even begun the process of surrendering her US nationality at the time of the elections – 21st March 2013. She had been a member of the Constitution Committee of PTI as well as the central PSC and was well aware of the restrictions on dual nationals holding Party office. The relevant laws which led to her disqualification from the intra-party elections are:
S. 5(1) of the Political Parties Order 2002 states the following:
*“5. Membership of political parties.- (1) Every citizen, not being in the service of Pakistan, shall have the right to form or be a member of a political party or be otherwise associated with a political party or take part in political activities or be elected as an office-bearer of a political party:
Provided that a person shall not be appointed or serve as an office-bearer of a political party if he is not qualified to be, or is disqualified from being, elected or chosen as a member of the Males-e-Shoora (Parliament) under Article 63 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan or under any other law for the time being in force.”
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Article 63(1)(c) of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan states the following:
*Disqualifications for membership of Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament):
(1) A person shall be disqualified from being elected or chosen as, and from being, a member of the Majlis-e-Shoora (Parliament), if:-…
(c) he ceases to be a citizen of Pakistan, or acquires the citizenship of a foreign State; or…”
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[The matter had been discussed in great detail by the Supreme Court of Pakistan in the case of Syed Mehmood Akhtar Naqvi v Federation of Pakistan, PLD 2012 SC 1089, which also affirmed the literal constructions of the above-mentioned legislation.]
(3) A day after the intra party elections, 22 March 2013, Ms Kasuri went to the US Consulate Lahore to begin the process of citizenship renunciation and herself circulated the letter issued. Letter from US Consulate testifying to the same is also attached.
(4) She then demanded a reelection of the intra party elections to accommodate her, which could not be done legally as elections had been held according to the rules. Also, legally citizenship ceases to exist after the final certificate has been issued by the concerned government so her eligibility was legally not restored by 22nd March 2013 when she made the demand.
(5) The PTI Women Priority list was finalized by 31st March 2013 and she was informed that she was No 4 in the Punjab List for the National Assembly. She not only accepted the order but took part in the election jalsas and other activities. The expectation was that PTI would win enough NA seats in Punjab to accommodate a number of the women on the Priority List. The list was sent to the ECP to meet their deadline. It was displayed publicly on the ECP notice board subsequently. Ms Kasuri, at the time of scrutiny, also raised slogans against other PTI women candidates, in front of all political parties’ candidates. The Party took note but allowed this transgression of Ms Kasuri’s to pass.
(6) It was only after the election results came out that Ms Kasuri started her campaign of maligning the party and the women selected by the leadership for the Reserved Seats. Despite this, the Party leadership took a lenient view and refused to take action against her by issuing a show cause notice.
(7) On the day of her resignation she spoke to the Chairman and expressed an interest in NA 48 but the Chairman made no commitment. However, the Chairman’s sister personally visited her on her own as they were old friends, to try and keep her within the party on grounds of ideology. It was only later that the revelation was made about her already having had meetings with the women of the Sharif family.
(8) Ms Kasuri also hurled allegations of financial misconduct by some senior and founding members of the Party. These are absolutely male fide allegations with no base in fact. All PTI funds are audited by one of the top Chartered Accountancy firms in the country.
(9) Her allegations of there being a mafia group controlling the Chairman are also baseless. The only people surrounding Chairman Khan, while he is recovering from his accident, are his family. All other members of the Party are busy doing their work in different parts of the country. Mr Naeemul Haque as Head of the Chairman’s Office is the only PTI member by his side in Lahore.
PTI still feels Ms Kasuri made a hasty and emotive decision to go public about her perceived grievances and many PTI members have been served show cause notices or removed from the Party for the same - but it was her choice. However, it would have been better had she not sought to hurl baseless allegations while concealing the real facts about her intra party disqualification and her placement on the Women Reserved Priority List.
http://insaf.pk/Portals/0/20130606_FK.jpg
Rizwan Chaudhry
Incharge, Central Media Cell
Islamabad
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*Fellow posters, I have removed a lot of off topic posts from this thread. Kindly stay on topic & read forum rules *
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^^^ I did not posted anything irrelevant. Imran relationship and possibly marriage with Ayla Malik (could be rumour) is cause of all turmoil and FK leaving PTI.
Other news that I had in my post is about cousins conflict with party because of Ayla Malik interference in party, and that is not rumour. It is obvious that all these anomalies are cause of nepotism and favoritism in party and FK to leave party.
So, both news element in my post was relevant to what is happening in PTI and cause of people, cousins of Imran who worked or the party hard, contesting election independently and FK leaving party to join rival party (PMLN).
Unless one does not know the background of conflicts, one cannot say why things happened or happening as it is.
I can see PTI explanation, still it make no sense why FK was number 4 on the list, when she was one of the oldest party member and worked for party hard for last 17 years, in every low and high of the party. Being number 1, 2, 3 or 4 has nothing to do with her American nationality, as list was given to EC on 31st March (she denounced her American nationality on 22 March), and that is why she was in the list, though at No. 4.
FK talked about mal-practices in fund, but PTI says that they have used international chartered accountant companies to audit the account. Well, it is obvious that mal-practices are going on with fund. Imran admitted that a part of fund was used in gambling, though with best intention. But then funds did not belonged to individuals that it can be used for gambling. If funds belong to charity or corporate, then they cannot be used in gambling, regardless of good or bad odds.
No chartered accountant firm could approve an account where funds are shown as being used for gambling. Limited speculation may be acceptable in corporate accounts, but gambling no way ... on the other hand, when managing charity fund, even speculation is unacceptable (as money is given as trust not to speculate but to provide for needy) ... but then, what I read that funds raised in charity by IK for SKH was used in gambling (I might be wrong, but what I remember, that is what I read and heard).
If Imran used fund to gamble then one can say that other mal-practices could have happened too. Maybe funds got stolen or used for personal benefit, and books are made to cover everything. No one other then people from inside would know (like FK), as chartered accountant firm would accept what is told to them, and if they approved gambled money as accounted then anything can be expected from such CA firms auditing.
So, if funds obtained as charity are used for gambling, and there is possibility that funds may have got stolen too (or used for private purposes), than FK is right to say that funds are getting misused.
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Comment on Dawn:
She thought she could hang on to her American citizenship until the last moment. By the time, she gave it up, it was too late. But she thought PTI would win a majority and she would still become an MNA. But the people of Pakistan gave a different verdict, hence her dilemma. No wonder she is frustrated, but it's because of her own doings. Looks like, she is the kind of person who would change citizenship/loyalties in a moment: From being a Pakistani citizen to becoming an American to joining the PTI to relinquishing American citizenship to quitting the PTI at the first disappointment. She is an asset, neither to America, nor Pakistan, nor PTI, nor any Pakistani or American political party. I bet she is now trying to reclaim her American citizenship, since her gamble did not pay off. One's loyalties are not something one can or should gamble with. Siddique Malik, Louisville, Kentucky, USA.
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giving up her US citizenship is NO big deal because she can reapply to regain her surrendered citizenship.
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Ham thay saathi-e-safar jab dhool thee, dhoop thee aur they chend log
Ayee manzil nazar tou Zalim nay jhataka hanth aur pakra niya ham-safar
Pata ab chala kay khud-garz banday huay na kisi kay na hongay kisi kay
Dekha agar kuch munafa tou dayen gay dhoka, apnay hon yea parayea
Fauzia Kasuri: In honour of her ex-party chief.
I can see PTI explanation, still it make no sense why FK was **number 4 on the list, when she was one of the oldest party member and worked for party hard for last 17 years, in every low and high of the party. Being number 1, 2, 3 or 4 has nothing to do with her American nationality, as list was given to EC on 31st March (she denounced her American nationality on 22 March), and that is why she was in the list, though at No. 4.**
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^^^ I did not posted anything irrelevant. Imran relationship and possibly marriage with Ayla Malik (could be rumour) is cause of all turmoil and FK leaving PTI.
Where did you get the rumor of him marrying Ayla?
Other news that I had in my post is about cousins conflict with party because of Ayla Malik interference in party, and that is not rumour. It is obvious that all these anomalies are cause of nepotism and favoritism in party and FK to leave party.
I believe Pervaiz Khattak's dragging his family members into PTI is causing all the problems. PTI has failed to scrutinize and discard people who do not agree with PTI's motto.
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Where did you get the rumor of him marrying Ayla?
I gave the reference, but it seems some people did not like the reference, and thus took off the post (even though I believe, it was related to the thread). :)
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I believe Pervaiz Khattak's dragging his family members into PTI is causing all the problems. PTI has failed to scrutinize and discard people who do not agree with PTI's motto.
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What Pervaiz khattak has to do with FK case. His nepotism and favoritism is going on in KPK, not in Punjab ... and FK case is related to Punjab where it seems Ayla malik is in control (it seems, she is in control of PTI everywhere, in NA seats, ticket distribution, women seats, as well as Punjab seats).
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Read below:
source: Allegations: PTI leadership accused of favouritism – The Express Tribune
Though the nepotism is in KPK the seats are for National Assembly.
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But that is NA women seat of KPK, not Punjab. FK could have only got in on Punjab women seat.
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There are 60 reserved women seats in NA. Each provinces have women reserved seats in NA as follows:
Punjab = 35 (PTI got 2, PPP got 1 ... PMLN got 31 ... one seat is yet to get decided by lot between PPPP and PMLQ)
Sindh = 14 (PPPP got 7, MQM got 4 ... )
KPK = 8 (PTI got 4, JUI-F got 2 ... )
Baluchistan = 3
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Great washing
You can hide the …at PA but stories are reaching every where
God bless you .
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THIS - #truth reveals itself in many ways~
Comment on Dawn:
She thought she could hang on to her American citizenship until the last moment. By the time, she gave it up, it was too late. But she thought PTI would win a majority and she would still become an MNA. But the people of Pakistan gave a different verdict, hence her dilemma. No wonder she is frustrated, but it's because of her own doings. **Looks like, she is the kind of person who would change citizenship/loyalties in a moment: From being a Pakistani citizen to becoming an American to joining the PTI to relinquishing American citizenship to quitting the PTI at the first disappointment. She is an asset, neither to America, nor Pakistan, nor PTI, nor any Pakistani or American political party.* I bet she is now trying to reclaim her American citizenship, since her gamble did not pay off. One's loyalties are not something one can or should gamble with. Siddique Malik, Louisville, Kentucky, USA.*
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Anyhow, you are right that nepotism and favoritism was rife in PTI when forwarding names to EC for reserved women seats from KPK.
These are 7 names PTI forwarded to EC for women reserved seats from KPK.
Nafeesa Inayat-ullah Khattak
Mussarat Ahmed Zaib
Sajda Zulfiqar
Aisha Gulalai
Dr Robina Fareed
Razia Khattak
Asmat Khattak
I am not sure, but I believe last two are daughter of Pervaiz Khattak.
First is sister-in-law of Pervaiz Khattak
Third is niece of Pervaiz Khattak.
It means, 4 out of 7 names forwarded to EC are close relatives of Pervaiz Khattak.
As for rest, they are also due to nepotism and none are old party workers (as report you posted mentions).
But when it came about rewarding FK for her 17 years of work and commitment to the party, she was put way down in the list, giving preference to new member over her, one who joined less than 2 years ago and has done comparatively nothing for the party, like Ayla Malik.