This is a hypothetical question.
Muslim men are allowed to marry Ahle Kitab, while not muslim women. This leaves muslim women in west with too fewer options compared to men. Such a situation hampers the Islamic duty of Nikah for women and to lead life in line with Islamic principles.
Islamic rules take into account, the circumstances. Do you think there should be a fatwa to ban or discourage out of faith marriages for Muslim men ?
Will such fatwa have any impact?
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Such fatwa would be illegal. You can't change rules of the religion because some people opted to live in a majority non-muslim country and find certain things difficult.
Next there would be call for a fatwa to legalize pork, booze, homos or watever. Its a slippery slope.
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No, there shouldn't be a ban on it..
Not THAT many desi men marry non-Muslim women here anyway..it's much more common for them to go bk to Pak to find a wife than marry a non-Muslim.. that has more of an impact but at the end of the day it's their personal choice..
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But if there is something that helps achieving Islamic goals then wouldn't it be justified.
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How about a fatwa for being a awesome woman that men would die to marry ?
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But if there is something that helps achieving Islamic goals then wouldn't it be justified.
People choose to practise or not practise themselves but you can't just go around making something which is perfectly halal haram for everyone.. you can't take those rights away..
There are plenty of good Muslim guys around anyway..
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Didn't Umar ra ban interfaith marriages.
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^ I've heard of that too, will try to research a bit about the background and outcome of that ....
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This is a hypothetical question.
Muslim men are allowed to marry Ahle Kitab, while not muslim women. This leaves muslim women in west with too fewer options compared to men. Such a situation hampers the Islamic duty of Nikah for women and to lead life in line with Islamic principles.
Islamic rules take into account, the circumstances. Do you think there should be a fatwa to ban or discourage out of faith marriages for Muslim men ?
Will such fatwa have any impact?
well, couple of them can get together and marry one muslim man.
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^^It doesn't seem very practical.. How could Islam spread if there was a total ban on marrying non-Muslims?
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well, couple of them can get together and marry one muslim man.
Polygamy is banned in west.
Hazrat Umar did not ban the out of faith marriages through a fatwa. He banned it under a law. He mainly enforced it on some of the prominent sahaba
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I head he enforced it on all and not on a few.
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i think this thread is just successfully suggesting that religion is a man made concept.
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^How so?
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A fatwa allowing muslim women to marry ahl-e-kitaab would make more sense. Why should muslim women be restricted to a smaller pool of men (which inevitably means there will be an excess of young female muslim professional - they're always the professional ones that kicked out first - aging without a spouse and family)?
Honestly, a bigger problem than men marrying goris is that Pakistani muslim men in America (I can't speak for other countries) are either not marriage eligible to begin with in the eyes of women in our community, or they're going back to Pakistan to find brides.
Solution? Encourage families to not disregard women in the US when looking for rishtas, facilitate venues where families can meet without abuse towards women like what happens on these online dating sites, and encourage men in our community to be more professional and achieve more in education.
Vast majority of guys where I grew up ended up in community college, and then working at a gas station or something. That's not the kind of guy a female educated muslim girl in our community will want to marry.
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The men get to marry 4 women at the same time, they get to marry ahle kitaabs, and the women folks, :(
Terrible atrocities I say. Zaalim samaaj.
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a) It's highly makruh for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish girl. Read any fiqh book. They explicitly discourage it. Umar (ra) ordered many men in his era to divorce their Christian wives.
b) The condition of marrying a Jew or Christian is that she be chaste. If she is not chaste. The marriage will not be valid.
How many Christian or Jewish girls these days are chaste?
c) Many Christians today are Christians only in name. The majority are agnostic.
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a) It's highly makruh for a Muslim man to marry a Christian or Jewish girl. Read any fiqh book. They explicitly discourage it. Umar (ra) ordered many men in his era to divorce their Christian wives.
b) The condition of marrying a Jew or Christian is that she be chaste. If she is not chaste. The marriage will not be valid.
How many Christian or Jewish girls these days are chaste?
c) Many Christians today are Christians only in name. The majority are agnostic.
And this is based on what exactly? What hadis specifically?
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The laws of Islam cannot be changed. Muslim men can marry Christian and Jewish women but it is preferred that they marry Muslim women. They can marry up to 4 wives. This is in the Quran itself.
Some people have asked why is it that women cannot? The first answer is always this is what Allah wants. The second is that there are reasons for why Allah wants things to be a certain way.
The laws of Islam are built on each other. It is the husband that has the final say when it comes to things between husband and wife. It is the husband that is in position of power. This is why Allah has protected Muslim women from have a non-Muslim husband who is in power over them. Lineage is through the father and the children need to be Muslim so the father needs to be Muslim.
How would a woman know who the father is if she had multiple husbands? You might be able to rely on science now but people were not able to in the past and many people who are poor cannot even now.
Allah knows best