Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

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@AllahkaBanda

wa’alaykum as-salam

because the actions and corruption of such people make us draw such conclusions. Secondly, it is well known that the west has used these so called traditionalist and sufis, and defeated mindset people to hijack and liberalize Islam. You don’t have to look too far to find an example.

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let’s be fair and not attack me with a straw man. I didn’t say that suicide bombing is halal. Neither I am in a position to issue such a fatwa. What I was trying to say is that if part of an action is wrong then we shouldn’t label the whole action as wrong. Just because an action is carried out the wrong way doens’t mean that the whole purpose and everything about that action is wrong. Let’s not mix up things here and go into extreme.

1 - Protecting the blood and honour of Muslims, is that good or bad?
2 - Carrying out that in a wrong way, is that good or bad?

These are two different aspects. We need to support 1) and educate people to not to do 2). So let’s be fair and just in our approach and criticism. Everyone wants to spend their entire energy on one aspect and as a result people have gone into extreme.

even though i understand where you’re coming from but a flawed argument! Do Muslims no die in legtimate jihad al-qital? Should we stop participating in that too since our own blood as a Muslim will be lost?

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Would you rather want kufaar to annihilate everyone or would you want some of them to be taken care off even if by wrong means? Doing nothing is better than doing something!

this is already understood. Jihad is for sake of Allah, spreading Islam, protecting it and its followers. I don’t know how you’re understanding these suicide actions as taking revenge.

No one is narrowing down; I simply said that Muslims come first. Do you want Muslims to sit down home and do nothing because it is wrong mean and hurt kufaar while they kill every single one of us? Or do you prefer these Muslims to take some action and protect some Muslims? We are not Iraqi or Palestinian or any other prosecuted Muslims. Hence, it is easy for us to pose these sorts of things.

See akhee, the problem is that 1) our priorities are not sorted out and 2) we mix up different aspects and go to extreme.

We condemn the wrong and educate people but let’s not overlook at the beneficial and good aspect.

no one is denying that but Muslims come first

as-salamu alaykum

no, I didn’t. Please don’t put words in my mouth, jazak Allah khayran. Read my response above

bro AllahkaBanda

Regarding traditionalists … or Sufis for that matter. From the research I have done they are not passive and are not anti-Jihad. However, they have a certain disposition that might not be shared by yourself which is:

a) Military warfare has rules that must be obeyed
b) To obey them effectively one needs to be under appropriate leadership
c) It is important that we deal with our nufs and level of taqwa before attempting such a feat.

Doing so will mean much karamah on the battlefield rather than what we are currently observing.

Regarding action … I unlike yourself do not view action separate from the intention. These are not secular conditions. The action stems from the intention and the intention determines the action. So if the intention was for a good purpose but the method used to obtain that intention is wrong then the whole action is wrong. The only correct way is when both the action and the intention are compliant with Islamic law.

Now regarding the issue of taking ones own life or the intention of losing ones life or spilling of blood and our religious duty.

It must never be our intention to ‘take our lives’ however we must be prepared to lose our lives whilst doing what we can to protect it and the lives or those around us. This does not equate to the formula justified for suicide attacks. That formula does nothing whatsoever to ensure preservation of the self, rather it is devised on destructive damage the surest damaged target will be the attacker himself. This is not what it means to stop harm and it is not what it means to put oneself in harms way to prevent that harm from happening.

Both the intention and the method in suicide attacks are faulty. The intention of jihad is to prevent harm. The idea of physical jihad is to be in control of ones own nufs … rather we are enraged with vengence. Can we go on the front lines and invite people to our faith? Well we should be doing that.

What Malcolm X did was amazing to cite one contemporary example.

So in the case where we are upholding Islam and we are at risk then that is fine. The risk is there but the action needs to be taken by someone else … they pull the trigger. However we cannot say this equates to same if we are the ones pulling that trigger, on ourselves mind.

Look this situation is far more complicated than simply choosing over letting them kill everyone or to take some down while we fall … for sure this is a defeatist attitude.

Let’s consider the whole spectrum … those People of the Ditch were they not all killed yet who are the winners? Was is it not them? One can even argue that they all killed themselves without harming anyone … Am I sanctioning this? No … Let’s look at the response that was given in Uhud.

“Your dead are in hellfire, our dead are in paradise”

This consideration needs to be tied in. Also, consider living under an aggressor is worse than being killed. Also, consider our intention is to maintain our Islamic duties during every situation. If the kuffar fight us we fight those who fight us, not the civilians in the lands they occupy.

Suicide attackers are in a state of despair or they are misinformed about the methods they are allowed to use. Fighting aggressors especially those who are stronger in military might when we are weak in faith as an Ummah will only result in more aggression over the weaker populous. How are any of these ideas liberal?

Muslims may come first for certain duties however, our neighbours also have responsibilities over us. We cannot protect the life of a Muslim who puts himself in harms way yet why should we not protect that non-Muslim who wants nothing to do with violence?

These questions need to be answered for us to understand the reality of jihad. Aggression would never have come upon us if we did not deserve it. People would have been admiring of us had we maintained our principles of conduct in every situation.