Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

[Maverick_27]

I guess your ulema should study Islam again. Islam does not allows any killing of innocents, be it muslim or kafir.

ok but first u need to read my post again ............... lols

i have written over there that ulema has allowed suicidal attacks against *"kafir army doing aggression against muslims" *

i guess u r unoffical spoke person of NATO here.............. lols

2ndly dont talk ridiculous by saying "ur ulema"............... i m not giving them salaries. ( if u r a non muslim i can accept this kind of wording ......... but if u r a muslim then stop abusing me)

[kchughtai]

y u feel nauseated man. many ulema have given fatwa in this respect that u can use suicidal attack against the kafir army doing aggression against the Muslims. shud the Muslim of iraq and Afghanistan garland the US army for destroying their country. specially the iraqis.

specially when the US forces are many times more equipped with the advance weapons ........ what options they have got.

don't live in UTOPIA man.

but mostly I see these cowardly attacks are indiscriminate. Whenever i heard suicide attacks in Iraq, the reports were like "2 US soldiers and 60 iraqis died." Such attacks have mostly been targeted against general public and ironically mostly against muslim public to instill terror in them. If it were directed against attacking enemy army regiments in battlefield in case you are run out of options and taking such step would bolster the interests of your side then it could be justified but attacking markets, schools, other civilian areas where mostly innocent civilians die cannot in any case be justified. be it recommended by some lunatic mullah or else. That mullah will certainly not be one of my 'Ullema'.

[Faris_Udeen]

Re: Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

^ correcto :k:

[Nosherwan]

y u feel nauseated man. many ulema have given fatwa in this respect that u can use suicidal attack against the kafir army doing aggression against the Muslims. shud the Muslim of iraq and Afghanistan garland the US army for destroying their country. specially the iraqis.

specially when the US forces are many times more equipped with the advance weapons ........ what options they have got.

don't live in UTOPIA man.

I condemn terrorism against American, British, Spanish and Indian civillians because it is unislamic and evil...

...But as I said before I'm also against the bombing, invasion, occupation persecution and genocide of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kashmir, Gujarat or Bosnia etc.

I'm not condemning terrorism simply to please any western "master", if anything "Islamic" terrorism is an excuse and justification for them to invade Muslim countries and put restrictions on Islam in the west...

I condemn terrorism to please Allah...

I condemn terrorism because my Master who is Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'aala tells me to condemn terrorism in His scriptures and because the Fitrah (nature) He has created me with finds it repulsive.

Islam is a religion of fairness, justice and mercy (rahmah) to all living things. Just read the verses and narrations below to see what I mean, these are a part of our religion for a reason.

Allah has said:

Allah does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. Allah loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

and...

"If they resort to PEACE, so shall you, and put your trust in ALLAH. He is The-Hearer, The-Omniscient." (Quran 08:61)

The Prophet PBUH use to prohibit his soldiers from killing women and children (Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari) during war and he said:

...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child. (Sahih Muslim and Al-Tirmizi)

and...

The merciful are shown mercy by the All-Merciful. Show mercy to those on earth, and God will show mercy to you. (Al-Tirmizi and Abu-Dawood)

The Prophet PBUH also said:

Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years. (Sahih Bukhari and Ibn Majah)

and...

The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed. (Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim)

Our Prophet PBUH who was sent as Rehmat Al-Aalameen (Mercy To All) even told us to be kind to animals so do you think he would be okay with us showing cruelty to the fellow children of Adam and Eve, who are our brethren in humanity if not in religion?

A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth. (Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim)

and...

There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human. (Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim)

and...

When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal. (Sahih Muslim and Al-Tirmizi)

and...

A man walking along a path felt very thirsty. Reaching a well, he descended into it, drank his fill, and came up. Then he saw a dog with its tongue hanging out, trying to lick up mud to quench its thirst. The man said, “This dog is feeling the same thirst that I felt.” So he went down into the well again, filled his shoe with water, and gave the dog a drink. So, God thanked him and forgave his sins.} The Prophet was asked, “Messenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?” He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human. (Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim).

[happyheart]

Re: Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

Well done Qadri sahib
was long due but its never too late.

[Das_Reich]

Re: Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

[QUOTE]

kafir army doing aggression against the Muslims. shud the Muslim of iraq and Afghanistan garland the US army for destroying their country. specially the iraqis

[/QUOTE]

why didnt the muslims themselves overthrow the dictator saddam ? why did they need the help of US

now that the US have overthrown saddam all of a sudden iraqis 12ers and sunnis became very religious and patriotic

and why arent the rich muslim countries than opposing western forces if they have the courage ?

[Nosherwan]

... it is well known that the west has used these so called traditionalist and sufis, and defeated mindset people to hijack and liberalize Islam. You don't have to look too far to find an example.

Bro,

When someone says something in accordance with the Quran and Sunnah it doesn't matter whether he be a Sufi, Wahhabi, Christian, Jew or a Muslim we should agree with him.

You don't have to agree with him if he encourages wahdat al-wujood, waseelah, bid'ah etc.

You can carry on believing in Tauheed Ar-Ruboobiyyah, Tauheed Al-Asma was Sifaat and Tauheed Al-'Uboodiyyah..

...But we should agree with him and support when he condemns terrorism because it is against Islam, not because he is telling us to or because the west expects it but because it's our Islamic duty...

...Terrorism needs to be condemned because it is hell bent on tarnishing the beautiful face of Islam and distorting the noble concept of Jihad.

Islam's biggest enemies are those who are unkowingly destroying it from within by scaring away Non-Muslims and by nauseating born Muslims to apostasy (may Allah protect us).

Terrorism is not taking revenge for the suffering of Muslims, it actually does more damage to Islam and Muslims than to the western goverments:

1) Terrorsim legitimises the invasion and bombing of Muslim countries.

2) Terrorism scares away potential converts. (I admit conversions have increased after 9/11 but that's not because people are impressed with terrorism but rather because whilst learning about Islam they have come across the peaceful and true intrepretations of it.)

3) Terrorsim turns some Muslims who do not know the true meaning of Islam into apostates (as we have seen recently in Beslan with Muslims getting baptised as Christians because they thought Islam is what the terrorists profess and no sane person will agree with that).

4) More Muslims have been killed in the terrorist suicide attacks than anyone else.

5) Terrorism makes it harder for western Muslims to practice and preach Islam. Thanks to the terrorists people in the West are becoming fearful and paranoid of Islam/Muslim and they will support restrictions on Mosques and Islamic practices (as we have seen with the ban on veils in France and the ban on minarets in Switzerland).

6) Gives Islam-haters and people who have political differences with Muslims a stick to beat Islam and Muslim with, and these terrorists just prove the Islam-haters right!

[Saqi_the_angel]

Here you go read the summary and then comeback,

http://media.minhajuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/fatwa-88pages_final2.pdf

@AllahkaBanda

wa’alaykum as-salam

because the actions and corruption of such people make us draw such conclusions. Secondly, it is well known that the west has used these so called traditionalist and sufis, and defeated mindset people to hijack and liberalize Islam. You don’t have to look too far to find an example.

let’s be fair and not attack me with a straw man. I didn’t say that suicide bombing is halal. Neither I am in a position to issue such a fatwa. What I was trying to say is that if part of an action is wrong then we shouldn’t label the whole action as wrong. Just because an action is carried out the wrong way doens’t mean that the whole purpose and everything about that action is wrong. Let’s not mix up things here and go into extreme.

1 - Protecting the blood and honour of Muslims, is that good or bad?
2 - Carrying out that in a wrong way, is that good or bad?

These are two different aspects. We need to support 1) and educate people to not to do 2). So let’s be fair and just in our approach and criticism. Everyone wants to spend their entire energy on one aspect and as a result people have gone into extreme.

even though i understand where you’re coming from but a flawed argument! Do Muslims no die in legtimate jihad al-qital? Should we stop participating in that too since our own blood as a Muslim will be lost?

Would you rather want kufaar to annihilate everyone or would you want some of them to be taken care off even if by wrong means? Doing nothing is better than doing something!

this is already understood. Jihad is for sake of Allah, spreading Islam, protecting it and its followers. I don’t know how you’re understanding these suicide actions as taking revenge.

No one is narrowing down; I simply said that Muslims come first. Do you want Muslims to sit down home and do nothing because it is wrong mean and hurt kufaar while they kill every single one of us? Or do you prefer these Muslims to take some action and protect some Muslims? We are not Iraqi or Palestinian or any other prosecuted Muslims. Hence, it is easy for us to pose these sorts of things.

See akhee, the problem is that 1) our priorities are not sorted out and 2) we mix up different aspects and go to extreme.

We condemn the wrong and educate people but let’s not overlook at the beneficial and good aspect.

no one is denying that but Muslims come first

as-salamu alaykum

no, I didn’t. Please don’t put words in my mouth, jazak Allah khayran. Read my response above

[Maverick_27]

@Nosherwan

I condemn terrorism against American, British, Spanish and Indian civillians because it is unislamic and evil...

...But as I said before I'm also against the bombing, invasion, occupation persecution and genocide of Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan, Palestine, Kashmir, Gujarat or Bosnia etc.

I'm not condemning terrorism simply to please any western "master", if anything "Islamic" terrorism is an excuse and justification for them to invade Muslim countries and put restrictions on Islam in the west...

I condemn terrorism to please Allah...

I condemn terrorism because my Master who is Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta'aala tells me to condemn terrorism in His scriptures and because the Fitrah (nature) He has created me with finds it repulsive.

Islam is a religion of fairness, justice and mercy (rahmah) to all living things. Just read the verses and narrations below to see what I mean, these are a part of our religion for a reason.

Allah has said:

Allah does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. Allah loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

and...

"If they resort to PEACE, so shall you, and put your trust in ALLAH. He is The-Hearer, The-Omniscient." (Quran 08:61)

The Prophet PBUH use to prohibit his soldiers from killing women and children (Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari) during war and he said:

...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child. (Sahih Muslim and Al-Tirmizi)

and...

The merciful are shown mercy by the All-Merciful. Show mercy to those on earth, and God will show mercy to you. (Al-Tirmizi and Abu-Dawood)

thanks 4 ur slanted point of view. u should see sura tauba and Anfal as well. that is all about jihad.

ppl of iraq did not attack the USA. it is america that is doing aggression. even US itself admitted that the information about the presence of chemical weapon was wrong. still they are not willing to leave the oil rich country.

[Saqi_the_angel]

@Das_Reich

first he should give a fatwa against the illegal muslim govts then worry about these guys

Before making any comment u should read the whole book of fatwa

[Makki2000]

Re: Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

A friend of mine told me about Dr Qadri's fatwa, I don't listen to him but I have watched Dr Qadri's Fatwa Launch on youtube, it's excellent. I though it will be worth sharing it.

[psyah]

@AllahkaBanda

wa’alaykum as-salam

because the actions and corruption of such people make us draw such conclusions. Secondly, it is well known that the west has used these so called traditionalist and sufis, and defeated mindset people to hijack and liberalize Islam. You don’t have to look too far to find an example.

…

let’s be fair and not attack me with a straw man. I didn’t say that suicide bombing is halal. Neither I am in a position to issue such a fatwa. What I was trying to say is that if part of an action is wrong then we shouldn’t label the whole action as wrong. Just because an action is carried out the wrong way doens’t mean that the whole purpose and everything about that action is wrong. Let’s not mix up things here and go into extreme.

1 - Protecting the blood and honour of Muslims, is that good or bad?
2 - Carrying out that in a wrong way, is that good or bad?

These are two different aspects. We need to support 1) and educate people to not to do 2). So let’s be fair and just in our approach and criticism. Everyone wants to spend their entire energy on one aspect and as a result people have gone into extreme.

even though i understand where you’re coming from but a flawed argument! Do Muslims no die in legtimate jihad al-qital? Should we stop participating in that too since our own blood as a Muslim will be lost?

…

Would you rather want kufaar to annihilate everyone or would you want some of them to be taken care off even if by wrong means? Doing nothing is better than doing something!

this is already understood. Jihad is for sake of Allah, spreading Islam, protecting it and its followers. I don’t know how you’re understanding these suicide actions as taking revenge.

No one is narrowing down; I simply said that Muslims come first. Do you want Muslims to sit down home and do nothing because it is wrong mean and hurt kufaar while they kill every single one of us? Or do you prefer these Muslims to take some action and protect some Muslims? We are not Iraqi or Palestinian or any other prosecuted Muslims. Hence, it is easy for us to pose these sorts of things.

See akhee, the problem is that 1) our priorities are not sorted out and 2) we mix up different aspects and go to extreme.

We condemn the wrong and educate people but let’s not overlook at the beneficial and good aspect.

no one is denying that but Muslims come first

as-salamu alaykum

no, I didn’t. Please don’t put words in my mouth, jazak Allah khayran. Read my response above

bro AllahkaBanda

Regarding traditionalists … or Sufis for that matter. From the research I have done they are not passive and are not anti-Jihad. However, they have a certain disposition that might not be shared by yourself which is:

a) Military warfare has rules that must be obeyed
b) To obey them effectively one needs to be under appropriate leadership
c) It is important that we deal with our nufs and level of taqwa before attempting such a feat.

Doing so will mean much karamah on the battlefield rather than what we are currently observing.

Regarding action … I unlike yourself do not view action separate from the intention. These are not secular conditions. The action stems from the intention and the intention determines the action. So if the intention was for a good purpose but the method used to obtain that intention is wrong then the whole action is wrong. The only correct way is when both the action and the intention are compliant with Islamic law.

Now regarding the issue of taking ones own life or the intention of losing ones life or spilling of blood and our religious duty.

It must never be our intention to ‘take our lives’ however we must be prepared to lose our lives whilst doing what we can to protect it and the lives or those around us. This does not equate to the formula justified for suicide attacks. That formula does nothing whatsoever to ensure preservation of the self, rather it is devised on destructive damage the surest damaged target will be the attacker himself. This is not what it means to stop harm and it is not what it means to put oneself in harms way to prevent that harm from happening.

Both the intention and the method in suicide attacks are faulty. The intention of jihad is to prevent harm. The idea of physical jihad is to be in control of ones own nufs … rather we are enraged with vengence. Can we go on the front lines and invite people to our faith? Well we should be doing that.

What Malcolm X did was amazing to cite one contemporary example.

So in the case where we are upholding Islam and we are at risk then that is fine. The risk is there but the action needs to be taken by someone else … they pull the trigger. However we cannot say this equates to same if we are the ones pulling that trigger, on ourselves mind.

Look this situation is far more complicated than simply choosing over letting them kill everyone or to take some down while we fall … for sure this is a defeatist attitude.

Let’s consider the whole spectrum … those People of the Ditch were they not all killed yet who are the winners? Was is it not them? One can even argue that they all killed themselves without harming anyone … Am I sanctioning this? No … Let’s look at the response that was given in Uhud.

“Your dead are in hellfire, our dead are in paradise”

This consideration needs to be tied in. Also, consider living under an aggressor is worse than being killed. Also, consider our intention is to maintain our Islamic duties during every situation. If the kuffar fight us we fight those who fight us, not the civilians in the lands they occupy.

Suicide attackers are in a state of despair or they are misinformed about the methods they are allowed to use. Fighting aggressors especially those who are stronger in military might when we are weak in faith as an Ummah will only result in more aggression over the weaker populous. How are any of these ideas liberal?

Muslims may come first for certain duties however, our neighbours also have responsibilities over us. We cannot protect the life of a Muslim who puts himself in harms way yet why should we not protect that non-Muslim who wants nothing to do with violence?

These questions need to be answered for us to understand the reality of jihad. Aggression would never have come upon us if we did not deserve it. People would have been admiring of us had we maintained our principles of conduct in every situation.

[Nosherwan]

@Maverick_27

thanks 4 ur slanted point of view. u should see sura tauba and Anfal as well. that is all about jihad.

ppl of iraq did not attack the USA. it is america that is doing aggression. even US itself admitted that the information about the presence of chemical weapon was wrong. still they are not willing to leave the oil rich country.

Salaam bro,

When did I say it was justified for America to invade Iraq?

That was wrong, and I condemn that as do most people in this country (there was a survey and the majoirty of Brits are anti-war).

What I'm against is when American or Pakistani civillians are made to pay for the wrongs of their goverments...

Targetting civillians is not Jihad bro, it's terrorism.

[Nosherwan]

Re: Fatwa against terrorism by Dr Qadri

@psyah

Regarding action … I unlike yourself do not view action separate from the intention. These are not secular conditions. The action stems from the intention and the intention determines the action. So if the intention was for a good purpose but the method used to obtain that intention is wrong then the whole action is wrong. The only correct way is when both the action and the intention are compliant with Islamic law.

Subhan Allah. :k:

Agreed, good can never come from bad.

[Makki2000]

Very well said

@psyah

bro AllahkaBanda

Regarding traditionalists … or Sufis for that matter. From the research I have done they are not passive and are not anti-Jihad. However, they have a certain disposition that might not be shared by yourself which is:

a) Military warfare has rules that must be obeyed
b) To obey them effectively one needs to be under appropriate leadership
c) It is important that we deal with our nufs and level of taqwa before attempting such a feat.

Doing so will mean much karamah on the battlefield rather than what we are currently observing.

Regarding action … I unlike yourself do not view action separate from the intention. These are not secular conditions. The action stems from the intention and the intention determines the action. So if the intention was for a good purpose but the method used to obtain that intention is wrong then the whole action is wrong. The only correct way is when both the action and the intention are compliant with Islamic law.

Now regarding the issue of taking ones own life or the intention of losing ones life or spilling of blood and our religious duty.

It must never be our intention to ‘take our lives’ however we must be prepared to lose our lives whilst doing what we can to protect it and the lives or those around us. This does not equate to the formula justified for suicide attacks. That formula does nothing whatsoever to ensure preservation of the self, rather it is devised on destructive damage the surest damaged target will be the attacker himself. This is not what it means to stop harm and it is not what it means to put oneself in harms way to prevent that harm from happening.

Both the intention and the method in suicide attacks are faulty. The intention of jihad is to prevent harm. The idea of physical jihad is to be in control of ones own nufs … rather we are enraged with vengence. Can we go on the front lines and invite people to our faith? Well we should be doing that.

What Malcolm X did was amazing to cite one contemporary example.

So in the case where we are upholding Islam and we are at risk then that is fine. The risk is there but the action needs to be taken by someone else … they pull the trigger. However we cannot say this equates to same if we are the ones pulling that trigger, on ourselves mind.

Look this situation is far more complicated than simply choosing over letting them kill everyone or to take some down while we fall … for sure this is a defeatist attitude.

Let’s consider the whole spectrum … those People of the Ditch were they not all killed yet who are the winners? Was is it not them? One can even argue that they all killed themselves without harming anyone … Am I sanctioning this? No … Let’s look at the response that was given in Uhud.

“Your dead are in hellfire, our dead are in paradise”

This consideration needs to be tied in. Also, consider living under an aggressor is worse than being killed. Also, consider our intention is to maintain our Islamic duties during every situation. If the kuffar fight us we fight those who fight us, not the civilians in the lands they occupy.

Suicide attackers are in a state of despair or they are misinformed about the methods they are allowed to use. Fighting aggressors especially those who are stronger in military might when we are weak in faith as an Ummah will only result in more aggression over the weaker populous. How are any of these ideas liberal?

Muslims may come first for certain duties however, our neighbours also have responsibilities over us. We cannot protect the life of a Muslim who puts himself in harms way yet why should we not protect that non-Muslim who wants nothing to do with violence?

These questions need to be answered for us to understand the reality of jihad. Aggression would never have come upon us if we did not deserve it. People would have been admiring of us had we maintained our principles of conduct in every situation.

[Saqi_the_angel]

Very good reply

@psyah

bro AllahkaBanda

Regarding traditionalists … or Sufis for that matter. From the research I have done they are not passive and are not anti-Jihad. However, they have a certain disposition that might not be shared by yourself which is:

a) Military warfare has rules that must be obeyed
b) To obey them effectively one needs to be under appropriate leadership
c) It is important that we deal with our nufs and level of taqwa before attempting such a feat.

Doing so will mean much karamah on the battlefield rather than what we are currently observing.

Regarding action … I unlike yourself do not view action separate from the intention. These are not secular conditions. The action stems from the intention and the intention determines the action. So if the intention was for a good purpose but the method used to obtain that intention is wrong then the whole action is wrong. The only correct way is when both the action and the intention are compliant with Islamic law.

Now regarding the issue of taking ones own life or the intention of losing ones life or spilling of blood and our religious duty.

It must never be our intention to ‘take our lives’ however we must be prepared to lose our lives whilst doing what we can to protect it and the lives or those around us. This does not equate to the formula justified for suicide attacks. That formula does nothing whatsoever to ensure preservation of the self, rather it is devised on destructive damage the surest damaged target will be the attacker himself. This is not what it means to stop harm and it is not what it means to put oneself in harms way to prevent that harm from happening.

Both the intention and the method in suicide attacks are faulty. The intention of jihad is to prevent harm. The idea of physical jihad is to be in control of ones own nufs … rather we are enraged with vengence. Can we go on the front lines and invite people to our faith? Well we should be doing that.

What Malcolm X did was amazing to cite one contemporary example.

So in the case where we are upholding Islam and we are at risk then that is fine. The risk is there but the action needs to be taken by someone else … they pull the trigger. However we cannot say this equates to same if we are the ones pulling that trigger, on ourselves mind.

Look this situation is far more complicated than simply choosing over letting them kill everyone or to take some down while we fall … for sure this is a defeatist attitude.

Let’s consider the whole spectrum … those People of the Ditch were they not all killed yet who are the winners? Was is it not them? One can even argue that they all killed themselves without harming anyone … Am I sanctioning this? No … Let’s look at the response that was given in Uhud.

“Your dead are in hellfire, our dead are in paradise”

This consideration needs to be tied in. Also, consider living under an aggressor is worse than being killed. Also, consider our intention is to maintain our Islamic duties during every situation. If the kuffar fight us we fight those who fight us, not the civilians in the lands they occupy.

Suicide attackers are in a state of despair or they are misinformed about the methods they are allowed to use. Fighting aggressors especially those who are stronger in military might when we are weak in faith as an Ummah will only result in more aggression over the weaker populous. How are any of these ideas liberal?

Muslims may come first for certain duties however, our neighbours also have responsibilities over us. We cannot protect the life of a Muslim who puts himself in harms way yet why should we not protect that non-Muslim who wants nothing to do with violence?

These questions need to be answered for us to understand the reality of jihad. Aggression would never have come upon us if we did not deserve it. People would have been admiring of us had we maintained our principles of conduct in every situation.

[Nosherwan]

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[Nosherwan]

What America is doing might not be right...

...But extremism/terrorism is not the answer to our problems.

Extremism is our biggest enemy, a more dangerous enemy which will destroy us from within.

If the Americans do not drone us we will kill ourselves.

'Rafeedi' will kill 'Naseebi' and the 'Naseebi' will kill 'Rafeedi'.

'Wahhabi' will kill the 'Bidati' and the 'Bidati' will kill the 'Wahhabi'.

Just because American is wrong does not mean extremism is right.

Extremism is not the soloution, it will only agravate our suffering.

[Bigboi]

@Nosherwan

Masha Allah, great move. :k:

I don’t agree with the Sheikh on many issues in terms of aqeedah and fiqh but terrorism and hatred are something we can all unite against.

We need more scholars and clerics from the various sects uniting against terrorists and extremists who are Islam’s enemies from within.

Terrorism and suicide bombings are a far greater insult to the honour of our beloved Prophet and his Faith than the Danish cartoons.

Our Prophet was sent as a Rehmat Al-Alameen (mercy to all the worlds) by the Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem (All-Gracious All-Merciful)…

…These people who say that taking their own lives and the lives of innocent civillians is justified/allowed/advocated in Islam are the biggest blasphemers ever against Allah and His Prophet and implying what the Danish cartoons implied..

Allah who is Ar-Rahman Ar-Raheem and the Prophet who is Rehmat Al-Aalameen have forbidden taking our own lives and the lives of innocent non-combatant civillians regardless of what religion they are.

Murder is the greatest sin after shirk (associating partners with God, Avodah-Zarah, breaking the first commandment etc.).

Suicide and bombing are both Haraam and major sins.

I know that Dr. Tahir ul-Qadri is not the first cleric to condemn terrorism, Fatwas have been issued from Makkah, Madeenah, Cairo, Islamabad etc. for a decade now, but we need to be even more vocal to save our youth from misguidance by terrorist groups and also to show the world the true image of Islam which is about love and tolerance.

Terrorism not only takes innocent lives, it smears mud all over the image of Islam and Muslims..

…It makes the lives of decent Muslims law-abiding a nightmare, those who just want to earn a living and maybe have a little bit of fun have to pay for the crimes of these terrorists, we have to face hatred because of them. I know it’s not right for people to tar us with the same brush but who can blame them? It’s human nature, we’d have done the same if the terrorists weren’t Muslim, if they were say Sikh, we’d also be saying “yeh Sikhrey hotey hi aisey hain”…

We need to sort out our communities fast, countries like Britain are the best for Muslims, it would be awful if the BNP/EDL came into power and we were all sent to Pakland… I might not agree with our goverments foreign policies but how can we be blind and ignore all the good? There is a town over here and it is a haven for Gujarati Muslims who were perseucted by Hindus in their own country, you see Muslim women wearing the burqa, men wearing beards, the skylines are filled with onion domed Mosques and the streets ring with the call to prayer, our schools, hospitals and workplaces have prayer facilities…

..This country has given us more than we Muslims deserve and need in terms of freedoms and then you have idiots who piss in the plate they eat out of, bite the hand that feeds them, they either want to blow up trains or force the queen to wear a burka.. You can hardly blame the Islamophobes.

The biggest enemy Islam has are these terrorists.. When we were young in the 90’s our white friends respected Islam even if it was too hard for their liking, they said it seemed difficult to follow but they saw sense/wisdom in the restrictions (no alcohol, fornication etc.), now most people just hates us..

excellent post

[Saqi_the_angel]

What America is doing might not be right...

...But extremism/terrorism is not the answer to our problems.

Extremism is our biggest enemy, a more dangerous enemy which will destroy us from within.

If the Americans do not drone us we will kill ourselves.

'Rafeedi' will kill 'Naseebi' and the 'Naseebi' will kill 'Rafeedi'.

'Wahhabi' will kill the 'Bidati' and the 'Bidati' will kill the 'Wahhabi'.

Just because American is wrong does not mean extremism is right.

Extremism is not the soloution, it will only agravate our suffering.

Very well said