The question about the “rightness” of vigilante revenge definitely comes up after a father, an ex-South Africa rugby star, went on what looks to be a revenge killing spree](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1371485/Ex-South-African-rugby-star-murders-3-axe-gang-rape-revenge.html?ITO=1490), using an axe to murder three men he believes gang raped his daughter and gave her HIV. One of the victims’ heads was found a mile away from his body. One of the two other men, also killed by axe, was nearly decapitated as well. For anyone who has a daughter or a child, it seems a rightly served form of justice on men who would commit a heinous and violent crime against a young girl, especially leaving her to fight a deadly virus for life; however, this string of violence at the hands of a rage-filled father also reminds us to consider that taking the law into our own hands might not always work out how it should.
First of all, there is the matter of the gang rape, which is still alleged. It doesn’t sound like anyone was picked up, arrested, or charged for the crime. Not suggesting the rape didn’t happen. Not at all. If it was my kid who was raped, I’d have no problem taking her word for it. I could see many, many people immediately going after the rapists named by their own daughter.
But what if this father killed the wrong guys? What if, in an impassioned and murderous rampage, he hacked up someone he thought to be one of the rapists, and what if he was wrong? Then the story isn’t so heroic anymore, is it? That’s the purpose the courts and DNA tests and finger pointing in a courtroom serve. Everything else aside, you want to get the right guys. However, this is what we don’t know when a person goes after people without the law behind him.
The father is due in court tomorrow, where he will face three charges of murder and one of attempted murder for a fourth alleged victim who escaped. He is accused of stalking his victims over several days before hacking them to death with an axe. Do you think this dad did the right thing or should he have stayed on the side of the law?
**EDITED on 4/1/11: More facts about this case have since been released, revealing a horrifying twist. Read our follow-up story about this man, now identified as Joseph Ntshongwana, and his crimes.
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Honestly I am going to say Kudos to the man for what he did. If he definatley got the right guys then I think Allah forbid but I would in all likelihood have done the same thing maybe worse…
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**no one should be allowed to take the law into their hands. period! it's the State's responsibility to mete out punishment after due judicial process. anarchy must NOT be tolerated.
he is NO Hero for sure...he doesn't know ALL the facts behind the case and that's why a trial is a must before the punishment is carried out.**
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and besides, death may NOT be an appropriate sentence even after the trial under the prevailing law of the land. **
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He is a hero...a real hero....
I will salute him a thousand times...
To understand his pain ,you need to be a father or atleast be in his shoeTthen you will realize the pain and agony he and his family suffered.
I do not agree with the statement ` noone should be allowed to take law in their hands'.Where was this law when she was molested and gang raped by those **h* *******?If there was no law then,there is no law now also.
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This is madness.
Madness cannot be returned with madness.
There IS law always even when laws are broken by criminals. So no excuse in saying, since law was not there to protect someone then law should be broken again.
This kind of behaviour can open up ways for people to kill each other and give excuses to commit crimes in the name of revenge.
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Whoever made this story up must have read the novel "A time to kill" in which the father was acquitted of all charges by the court when he shot dead his 8 year old daughter's rapists.
Anyway, the father wouldn't be a hero nor a monster - just a grief-stricken, psychologically unstable person with whom I'd sympathise.
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Sorry but if I ever come across such a father in my life time,who wants to avenge his daughter's rapists/kllers ,I will help him buy a weapon for sure.
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^ Then you will be an accomplist to murder and you *will *be held responsible. :) This isn't fiction, this is the real world where the law might acquit the father for insanity reasons but you surely won't be. We give out about revenge killings all the time in the rural (and urban) areas of India and Pakistan so why the double standards in this case?
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^No double standard. :) I can not withstand a killer to get away by molesting a girl and ruining her life.And here money means everything.If I feel there is a law that can not ensure the safety of a girl/Lady, and the culprit lives freely,I will make sure the same law does not touch me on any count.
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Arlietter bhai I'm with you man.
I realise this crazy sicko in SA has made up the story about rape and all for whatever reason... Such Mad men dont deserve anything better than a simmilar death.
However for the genuinely wronged people who often have no support from the Law and the only alternative is to take the Law into thier own hands then I have all the respect for them.
Arlie I would gladly kill a thousand rapists too just for the sheer joy of stopping them commit thier crimes.
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^ Then you will be an accomplist to murder and you *will *be held responsible. :) This isn't fiction, this is the real world where the law might acquit the father for insanity reasons but you surely won't be. We give out about revenge killings all the time in the rural (and urban) areas of India and Pakistan so why the double standards in this case?
Well said.
Laws must be respected and followed. If everyone tries same analogy of taking law in own hand then that will lead to anarchy and chaos.
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Laws must be respected and followed. If everyone tries same analogy of taking law in own hand then that will lead to anarchy and chaos.
Point granted but not everywhere has a fair Legal system or even a functioning Police Force, are you telling me if Allah forbid someone did such a thing to you and you went to the Police and they asked for 10,000RS just to file your case let alone pursue it... in many Countries forget the Forensics you'll be lucky if the local Cop Chief got off his seat for less than that kind of money.
In such a situation there are only two options that are viable... find yourself a PI who specialises in bringing such brutes to Justice or second and more viable option take things your own way.
In Rural regions everyone tends to know everyone for a few Miles and such bloodfueds are common.
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The matter should be tried in a court of law. A medical exam can help confirm if it was rape and DNA testing of evidence can confirm who committed the crime. There is an organized method of going about things.....and breaking those rules can even land the victim and his/her family in trouble. Unfortunately, in some countries around the world, the legal system is corrupt or severely messed up. Then, on the other extreme, there are also some jahil parents that you read about......that would slay their own daughter after being raped because she's perceived as a blemish upon their honor.
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True…
I guess Honor killing without reason is just stupid, however everything happens for reasons and one needs to understand them. I used to say that Honor was everything but these days even I am still searching for a proper meaning…
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Point granted but not everywhere has a fair Legal system or even a functioning Police Force, are you telling me if Allah forbid someone did such a thing to you and you went to the Police and they asked for 10,000RS just to file your case let alone pursue it... in many Countries forget the Forensics you'll be lucky if the local Cop Chief got off his seat for less than that kind of money.
In such a situation there are only two options that are viable... find yourself a PI who specialises in bringing such brutes to Justice or second and more viable option take things your own way.
In Rural regions everyone tends to know everyone for a few Miles and such bloodfueds are common.
Understood your point of view, legal system does not always provide justice. No argument there.
But each case has to be looked at individually.
General rule would however stays ............ as always.
Respect and follow the law.
There is much bigger risk of lawlessness and people killing each other in the name of revenge and finding excuse to settle other scores.
** Innocents could be killed in hundreds in this way.**
Also, any woman who does not like the rejection may turn around and blame someone for rape. Ever thought of this as scenario?
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