Fate of Hindu girls remains unclear

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Well, let me say few points here:

1- Islam does not condone any forceful conversion to islam. No one should be expected to accept Islam just because someone says someone has become muslim.

2- We have read many more comments from the father (word by word) but not much of exact responses from other people. Mostly it has been in third person description of what other people said.

3- Girls need to be placed infront of public media or open but extremely protected court to talk about themselves...freely with no face cover since it is a matter of importance for everyone. They must be asked clearly their status and position and it needs written confirmation from both sides right infront of interested people....so any doubt is removed.

4- They must be granted visits on regular basis by their parents. Still supervised and protected till the matter gets cleared.

5- Rape is a huge crime and must not be thrown on anyone lightly.

6- How all of sudden three sisters (adults?) get out of their home and ended up at the same place needs clarification.

7- 'Father' allegedly seeing tears could be true or could be false.
If its true, it could be that they were feeling bad of 'betraying' their father. (Now again I used the word could be which many of people have hard to grasp the meaning of!)

8- Perhaps the religious figure of hinduism or at least a woman from hindu community also be invited to meet with these poor girls getting caught in an awful situation. She can be allowed to see any evidence of 'alleged force' on these girls body parts. She also should verify if this is not the case..in writing.

9-We need to understand that father is also a party himself so independent person must be appointed. Off course his version would be that the girls are being 'forced'.

10- Lastly, if it is proven that these girls were really forced, kept against their will and manhandled then punishment for culprits should be severe and examplary. This should be made absolutely clear to the people who say that the girls are being kept on their own free will.

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Great points, deedawar. I completely agree. Nice post!

Well-noted on points #1, #2 and #8.

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After reading this lengthy post I am just thinking if they have any Law or Law abiding authorities in Pakistan.

Let the girls come out, free them from (Mosque) arrest and if your religion is really attractive and great for them, they will come back disregard if any compulsion from any sector or from relatives.

But they know that the reality is somewhere else and they are the most coward people shedding crocodile tears, instead of accepting the truth.

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In Karachi? No, there's no law. What have u been smoking?

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Could you say something sensible what you did not like in the post or just keep ranting?
(We know how much law was there when muslims were slaughtered in india in counts of hundreds! Take care of your territory and let others do their job)

Yeh right! They must remain away from possible retaliation from people including from possible anger from their father until the matter is clearly resolved.

A laughable comment to say the least.:slight_smile:

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Thanks!:blush:

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Deedawar, you post did make sense, there are varied point of views and those should be worked out.
Though is anybody listening you in Pakistan. What's happening is closer to what Armughal is speaking out...

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Thanks. Well we can only hope people get into senses everywhere. Religion is a personal matter in my opinion...meaning it must be allowed to be followed FREELY. Having said that, we must 'independently' and clearly establish who is right in this matter.

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that the girls were crying behind the veils, is only what the parents r saying, they cud very well be making this up to get the girls back....

or perhaps when the girls met their hindu parents, they cried thinking that their 'infidel' parents will be punished for following the wrong path....

u just cant conclude something on stupid newspapers stories....

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Father vs Islam....what they have to say?
In this case the best religion is afraid of a father of three girls who are kept under (Mosque) arrest.

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Of course, I don't believe anyone is jumping to conclusions yet, as that "stupid newspaper story" could very well be true, for what it's worth. "Almost" everyone who has posted in this thread, viewed the subject matter objectively (Keyword = "almost"), and raised suggestive points according to it. I just have this eerie feeling that if the characters were to be switched in this article, there would have been a huge outcry, and the "OMG!@!@###Muslims are doomed()()$$@~" bubble would burst out in no time.

But then again, that's just me.

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armughal, wasn't the Prophet's own uncle, highly close relative and friend of the Prophet's, also kaafir. Like not even a friggin believer in a god of a sort, he was an idol-worshipper. And did the Prophet refuse to meet with him or cry over his friggin trip to hell? Was he so emotionally disturbed over his uncle that he refused to meet or socialize with the guy?

Jeez. You talk about sunnah this and sunnah that, and your own opinions don't reflect the sunnah.

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For the sake of humanity

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I belive the mosque is supposed to be place of worship and kindness. Not a place for confining people. If you believe the girls have converted on their free will then let them go, they will still continue to be muslims.

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who is going to decide - it is very obvious there is no justice in Karachi. Not once have been the parents allowed to meet the daughters. The daughters have not been allowed to speak freely.

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Yes, i agree with pyari guriya ....

i could have kidnapped a guy or some guys....but i guess they feel that they better show their power on girl rather than guys.

Movies like Veer Zaara and Indo Pak cricketers playing in a cool and friendly manner, making steps to istablish trade between two countries, starting lahore amritsar bus and many more steps are making the realtion between people of india and pakistan friendly but i still we are far away what we want, we want peace and friendly relation with pakistan. but the acts like kidnapping three girls in karachi and what happened in gujrat disappoints us all.

I personally feel feelings of people living in punjab pakistan is a bit different from the rest of the pakistan communities. they are more friendly and loving. other communities should follow their steps since they also are islamic follower but with a human heart. i can say this because i have many pakistani frds in punjab and i got a chance to talk to many a pakistanis in other part of pakistans.

So, CHANGE YOUR FELLINGS.and stop all those acts.

Guru

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why is it that muslim women r not allowed to marry non-muslim men???

if u know the answer, then perhaps u’d understand what i wrote more clearly…
if u dont, then u need to learn a lot more before trying to tecah me about sunnah…

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anybody know how old these girls are? just asking....their age might be of some help in determining whether they have accepted islam or not. i mean if they were like 12 year olds, i would have a hard time believing they have accepted islam. and if they are older and mature and asking around with their friends and teachers for example, might indicate how interested they were in accepting islam. obviously it isnt a decision made in one day, they must have shown SOME interest in the past and friends must have been a bit familiar with it. just my opinion.
regardless, it still doesnt justify the mosque arrest.

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^ i think the ages are mentioned in the first post....
and they r above the 18 years age limit set by pak government for independent decisions....

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oops missed that part.....thanks