from my childwood a famous rewayat from shia that when hz. ali ra going to sallah some one comes and ask him ra that “please tell me how many animal are laying eggs and how many giving berth”.
hz. ali ra replied that which animal have ear giving birth and which animal do not have ear laying eggs.
is that true rewayet.
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meray nasibi dost...what are you trying to prove?
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just want to confirm that such event is true or fols.
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from my childwood a famous rewayat from shia that when hz. ali ra going to sallah some one comes and ask him ra that "please tell me how many animal are laying eggs and how many giving berth".
hz. ali ra replied that which animal have ear giving birth and which animal do not have ear laying eggs.
is that true rewayet.
lol, name few animals that do not have ears ?
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lol, name few animals that do not have ears ?
you mean this is not true saying, hz.ali ra means that animal who have visible era and animals who do not have visible era.
so, lol to you.
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Meray wahabi dost!
mainey is rawayat key baray main yaqeenan suna hai, lakin app key alfaaz ney rawyat ko kis kadar tabdeel kia; kia app ko is baat ka ehsaas hai ?
Alfaaz badal denay sey, ya khuch kum ker denay aur barha denay sey aik baaat ka poora matlab badal jata hai.
Abb app key alfaaz
pehli baat to yeh key agar banday ney yeh poocha key** kitnay** janwaar anday detay hain ? or **kitnay **janwar bachay detay hain to Imam Ali ko ginti main jawab dena chahieye tha.
doosri baaat ka app ko pehlay hi ehsaas ho gaya hai, Jo rawayat mainey post ki hai or jo sunney main aam hai us key mutabiq Imam Ali a.s ney yeh nahi kaha key baghair kaan key janwaar anday detay hain aur jin key kaan hoon woh janwar bachay detay hain. App key alfaaaz key ghalat istamaal ney poori baat ka matlab hi tabdeel ker dia.
Back to topic,
mainey is waqaya ki source dhoondnay ki bhot koshish ki hai, lakin mujhey nahi mili. Agar app ko is rawayat ki koi source milay to please post karain.
Jis tarah sey app ney khud sey do chaar alfaaz add ker diey aur khud sey 2 chaar nikaal bahir diey issi tarah suni sunai kahnioon main aksar yeh masla hota hai key khuch ziada kam ker key matlab badal dia jata hai.
Mujhey pata hai app whale or doplhin ki baat karo gey key un key kaan andar hain lakin woh anday nahi bachay deti hain lakin Kia app ney yeh bhi soocha key aaya yeh Imam Ali key exact alfaaaz hain ( ‘The animals who have their ‘EARS’ outside their body give birth to their young ones and the animals who have their ‘EARS’ inside their body lay eggs.’). App kitnay yaqeen sey keh saktay hain key alfaaz exactly same hain ?
Imam Ali a.s ko Rasool pak s.a.w ilm key shehar ka darwaza kaha hai un key ilm per shak kerna munasib nahi.
App ko Bibi fatima a.s ka kisa to yaad hi ho ga, jab unhoon ney Hussnain a.s sey keh dia key tumharay kapray darzi key pass hain jab key un key kapray kisi darzi key pass nahi they. Bibi Pak ney sirf kaha aur un ki baat such ho gai. ajab nahi key Agar bibi pak subah ko raat kahain aur un key kehnay sey pehlay waqian raat ho jaey. Imam Ali ney yeh exact alfaaz kahay hotay to mera iman hey key yaqeenan whale anday dey rahi hoti.
dua hey key app ko meri baat thori bhot samjh aa hi gai ho gi
Wasalam
App ka shia dost
Aqeel
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first of all this is revayat, and what i post is just confirm authenticity of this saying. and for your information where hz. ali ra says that he ra aware everything in universe, even our beloved prophet pbuh never say this, also for your information anaconda is kind of snake and bull shark is fish who have there ear inside their body but these animal did not lay eags and giving berth you may check with google or if you want i will produced such information to you.
and also for your information wahabi if and fiq or sect, and i am not wahabi i am sunni (shafai).
and your information about hadith about hz. ali ra that he ra was door of knowledge is fake and fabricated hadith as per islamic science of hadith so, do not misguide ummah with fake and fabricated beliefs.
and your further rewayat of hz. bibi fatima ra i heared many from my childwood, but not body have authenticity of these saying. if you have some reliable source of such kind of saying you may post.
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first of all this is revayat, and what i post is just confirm authenticity of this saying. and for your information where hz. ali ra says that he ra aware everything in universe, even our beloved prophet pbuh never say this, also for your information anaconda is kind of snake and bull shark is fish who have there ear inside their body but these animal did not lay eags and giving berth you may check with google or if you want i will produced such information to you.
and also for your information wahabi if and fiq or sect, and i am not wahabi i am sunni (shafai).
and your information about hadith about hz. ali ra that he ra was door of knowledge is fake and fabricated hadith as per islamic science of hadith so, do not misguide ummah with fake and fabricated beliefs.
and your further rewayat of hz. bibi fatima ra i heared many from my childwood, but not body have authenticity of these saying. if you have some reliable source of such kind of saying you may post.
Salam bro Alijan1001
Much of what you write makes me laugh for unrelated reasons ... I want to ask you though ... why do you want to fight all the time with Shi'a ... I think it will be a challenge for you to even find a few things good about them to write.
Consider Iran ... a Shi'a led country ... don't you think they are better than other Muslim countries on the political front and argue in favour of Islam?
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Salam bro Alijan1001
Much of what you write makes me laugh for unrelated reasons ... I want to ask you though ... why do you want to fight all the time with Shi'a ... I think it will be a challenge for you to even find a few things good about them to write.
Consider Iran ... a Shi'a led country ... don't you think they are better than other Muslim countries on the political front and argue in favour of Islam?
you shold reply on topic, this is thread for famous saying of hz. ali ra, and modern science proved that this is wrong.
and about iran, why do not you go their and stay there rest of your life if you think that iran is very good country.
iran brought arms from israel, iran have biggest population of jews after israel in middle east.
and what you say about irani sunnies what there position there, they even not allow to perform religious activity, also they did not make azam on loadspeaker.
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... i heared many from my childwood, but not body have authenticity of these saying. if you have some reliable source of such kind of saying you may post.
This is called a Freudian slip.
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This is called a Freudian slip.
as per shai beliefs hz. ali ra have knowledge of unseen.
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*dude, for u i wrote the whole essay in urdu, assuming u will start replying in urdu coz u dont make much sense in English *!!! if u read my post, u wud have known that i already pointed at whales and dolphins as animals that do not have ears outside yet they reproduce by giving birth to their babies.
if the hadith i mentioned is fabricated then start calling sahih bukhari and sahih muslim... fabricated bukhari, and fabricated muslim !
u rnt sunni, u r a wahabi who claims to be a sunni.
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*dude, for u i wrote the whole essay in urdu, assuming u will start replying in urdu coz u dont make much sense in English *!!! if u read my post, u wud have known that i already pointed at whales and dolphins as animals that do not have ears outside yet they reproduce by giving birth to their babies.
if the hadith i mentioned is fabricated then start calling sahih bukhari and sahih muslim... fabricated bukhari, and fabricated muslim !
u rnt sunni, u r a wahabi who claims to be a sunni.
jahan tak mujhay maloom hai, shio ka aqeeda hai kay hz. ali ra ko saab maloom ha, maghar yehan to ulta ho gaya, aap khud kha raha ho kay bhout say janwar anda ki bajaya bacha detay hain, our aap kay najdeek hz. ali ra masoom hain to masoom say ghailty kaisay ho sakti hai. or aap kay najdeeq imam ki yeh qualities hoti hain.
All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 270)
Imams are God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 85)
Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1,Page No. 258)
4. According to Shia's nothing can remain hidden from the Imams, they have a complete knowledge of past, present and future. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 260)
our jahan tak meray sunni honay ka taluk hai aap ki itla kay liye arz hai kay brailvi ulma ahmed raza say lakar noorani, kokab okarvi saab shia ko kafir kahtay hain is liya aap brailvio may na chupain.
wahabi koi maslaq nahi, aap ahl-hadith ko wahabi kha rahay hain.
Syed Ali Jan Jaffery Isphani (Ex.shia)
jahan tak mujhay maloom hai, shio ka aqeeda hai kay hz. ali ra ko saab maloom ha, maghar yehan to ulta ho gaya, aap khud kha raha ho kay bhout say janwar anda ki bajaya bacha detay hain, our aap kay najdeek hz. ali ra masoom hain to masoom say ghailty kaisay ho sakti hai. or aap kay najdeeq imam ki yeh qualities hoti hain.
All Imams are equal in rank and status to Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.w). (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 270)
Imams are God. (Jila-ul-Ayoun, Vol. No. 2, Page No. 85)
Imam knows his hour of death and his death is in his control. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1,Page No. 258)
4. According to Shia's nothing can remain hidden from the Imams, they have a complete knowledge of past, present and future. (Asool Kaafi, Vol. No. 1, Page No. 260)
our jahan tak meray sunni honay ka taluk hai aap ki itla kay liye arz hai kay brailvi ulma ahmed raza say lakar noorani, kokab okarvi saab shia ko kafir kahtay hain is liya aap brailvio may na chupain.
wahabi koi maslaq nahi, aap ahl-hadith ko wahabi kha rahay hain.
Syed Ali Jan Jaffery Isphani (Ex.shia)
jiss ko Quran-e-pak ney Pak kaha hoo us key saath jhoot munsalik kerna kum as kum kisi Quran per iman rakhnay walay ko to suit nahi kerta. jesay key mainey pehlay kaha sunni sunai rawayat main lafz agay peechay kerna ya kum ziada ker dena musalmano ki poorani adat hai.
Ghalti Imam sey hoi ya app jesay kisi jiraah kernay walay sey, is baat ka andaza is thread ki pehli post sey bhi lagaya ja sakta hai.
jiss ko Quran-e-pak ney Pak kaha hoo us key saath jhoot munsalik kerna kum as kum kisi Quran per iman rakhnay walay ko to suit nahi kerta. jesay key mainey pehlay kaha sunni sunai rawayat main lafz agay peechay kerna ya kum ziada ker dena musalmano ki poorani adat hai. Ghalti Imam sey hoi ya app jesay kisi jiraah kernay walay sey, is baat ka andaza is thread ki pehli post sey bhi lagaya ja sakta hai.
phali baat to yeh hai kay quran nay hz. ali ra ko pak nahi kaha aap shahid is quranic verse ki baat karrahin jo mothers of ummah ra kay liya utra tha aap khud phar lain hz. ali ra ko khaja ra hai "you are not liek any other of the women, and also "stay quietly in your houses".
jhoot par jhoot
“O wives of the Prophet! **You are not like any other of the women; If you will be on your guard, then be not soft in your speech, lest he in whose heart is a disease yearn; and speak a good word. And stay quietly in your houses, and make not a dazzling display, like that of the former Times of Ignorance; and establish regular Prayer, and give regular Charity; and obey Allah and His Messenger. And Allah only wishes to remove all abomination from you, you Ahlel Bayt (People of the House),** and to make you pure and spotless.” (Quran, 33:32-33)
The transliteration reads: “Ya nisa al-nabiyi lastuna kahadin mina alnisa-i ini itaqaytuna fala takhdaAAna bialqawli fayatmaAAa allathee fee qalbihi maradun waqulna qawlan maAAroofan Waqarna fee buyootikunna wala tabarrajna tabarruja aljahiliyyati al-oola waaqimna alssalata waateena alzzakata waatiAAna Allaha warasoolahu innama yureedu Allahu liyuthhiba AAankumu alrrijsa** Ahlul Bayt**-i wayutahhirakum tatheeran” (Quran, 33:32-33)
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^ so aisha ahley-bait main sey hai ? is ka matlab yeh hoa key woh pak hain, aur kabhi koi gunah nahi kia ! aur kabhi Quran ki nafarmani nahi ki....
^ so aisha ahley-bait main sey hai ? is ka matlab yeh hoa key woh pak hain, aur kabhi koi gunah nahi kia ! aur kabhi Quran ki nafarmani nahi ki....
hum muslim yeh aqeeda nahi rakhtay kay prophets as kay elawo koi masoom hain, hz. aisha ra, hz. ali ra hz. hussain ra etc koi masoom nahi un say galtiyan hosakti hain.
or jab quran ki ayah mothers of ummah ra ki shan may utri hain aap ko kiya khuda say bhi aitraz hai.
kiya aap ko quran par yaqeen nahi.
yeh too koi bacha bhi kha dega kay yeh ayah mastoraat kay liya hain inmain koi mard include nahi hai.
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where does it say female ppl of the house .......
mujhey khuda ki baat per aitraaz kion ho ga, app yeh bhi kehtay key Quran ney unhain paak kaha hai yeh bhi nahi mantay key woh gunhaoon sey paak hain.... jo bhi ahleay-bait jo koi bhi hain, atleast yeh to manay key ahley-bait Quran-e-pak ki na farmani nahi ker saktay !