family pic of imam e waqt

ShimmerV · December 14, 2009, 9:47pm

HE DOSNT DRINK

HE ISNT INVOLVED IN GAMBLING HE JUST LOVES HORSES

AND YES HE IS WORTHY OF BEING AN IMAM

suni sunai batoon per yakeen na karein :) apse to behtr ki umeed thi humein!

cricketplaya · December 15, 2009, 12:19am

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are you his daughter? or relative? how do u know? you knoe even wives n kids don't even know when their father is an alcoholic or gambler.. so how would you know? put your blind love behind you and think critically.

anyways, i don't know what you found SO OFFENSIVE in that picture.. just like everyone asked you in this thread. what is so offensive?

KKF · December 15, 2009, 12:22am

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i wud like to believe that but i can't...sorry :( thats his reputation!

mujh se kiuN ummeed thii baba? kia maiN koi wali shali huN lol...maiN ek aam banda huN :)**

ikhlaq786 · December 15, 2009, 12:44am

Not Muslims by any account as far as the Quran and the Hadith are concerned. These people are way outside Islam. As far as I am concerned they are Munafiq.

nGenius · December 15, 2009, 4:51am

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They are not Muslim…not sure why there women have to wear sari.
It is insult to Rasulullah (S.a.w) and religion of Islam to link Aga khan (and Agakhanis) to Islam.**

kali_billi · December 15, 2009, 8:37pm

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^ they wear saris because they come from india or sumthing? and i dont see the connection between being a muslim and wearing a sari like dont mostly all indians wear saris depite their religion its like a national dress?

P.S: everybody plz refrain from judgemental and insulting posts :)

ShimmerV · December 15, 2009, 8:59pm

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we are origniated from gujraat therefore the saree tradition..where in quran is written where shalwar kameez but not saree?

ShimmerV · December 15, 2009, 9:04pm

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i dun see bori imams or any other moulvis being put in the hot seat n said "even wives n kids don't even know when their father is an alcoholic or gambler.. so how would you know?" this is a general statment i can say that about u guys too!

i know him cuz im not blind i have done my research on this guy...im a educated gurl im not one of those jahils who blindly believe in anything..he dosnt drink n i knw tht fr a fact!

[note]Donot get personal and stay on topic.

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if u playing the blind fault game..leme join in too! but would change the truth...no!

ShimmerV · December 15, 2009, 9:14pm

we still maintain our ancestor traditions as we still speak gujrati and wear decent covering sarees on occassions..its not against any religion..stop making ur own religion rules n judging n reaching to conclusion on ur own..as i see it u r an insult to Islam! How proud of u would Allah be knowing without even researching or getting ur facts straight u called some one "insult to Rasulullah (S.a.w) and religion of Islam"

disgusting!

we are arguing cuz v all believe in Islam but have differences in opinions which actually arnt so different but please regardless of the fact tht u believe in the cast of agakhan to be muslims or not to not degarde Islam talking stuff like this..if u guys know so much about Islam u should know writing stuff like this without having prior knowledge about it is rong!

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i request very decently if u have a question ask me dont reach conclusions and add to ur sins..if after my answer u are not satisfied u cn judge but before my answer it is illogical to make such strong statements!**

Esix · December 15, 2009, 10:49pm

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[note] Please as Kalli billi said,refrain from judgemental and insulting posts. Thank you[/note]

cricketplaya · December 16, 2009, 12:37pm

Sadly, this is the case. People have been blindly following since the beginning, be it material goal or in this case a human being who doesn't come close to represent a Muslim by name, forget representing the beautiful sunnah of our Rasulullah(saw)! The ordinary man who prays 5times a day,, represents the sunnah of Rasulullah(saw) more than Aga Khan. May Allah guide them.

nGenius · December 17, 2009, 7:14am

saaniha

we still maintain our ancestor traditions as we still speak gujrati and wear decent covering sarees on occassions..its not against any religion..stop making ur own religion rules n judging n reaching to conclusion on ur own..as i see it u r an insult to Islam! How proud of u would Allah be knowing without even researching or getting ur facts straight u called some one “insult to Rasulullah (S.a.w) and religion of Islam”

disgusting!

we are arguing cuz v all believe in Islam but have differences in opinions which actually arnt so different but please regardless of the fact tht u believe in the cast of agakhan to be muslims or not to not degarde Islam talking stuff like this..if u guys know so much about Islam u should know writing stuff like this without having prior knowledge about it is rong!

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i request very decently if u have a question ask me dont reach conclusions and add to ur sins..if after my answer u are not satisfied u cn judge but before my answer it is illogical to make such strong statements!**

1st of All I have studied “Agakhani Cult”. Agakhan is not Gujrati. He has Iranian background. He is an imposter", the only reason you see them (white people) wearing sari because Persian-**Aga Hasan Ali Shah (Aga Khan I) ** main followers were gujrati. (Persian-Aga Hasan Ali Shah (Aga Khan I) with help from British convert thousands of poor Muslim and low caste Hindus into Ismailism - Agakhanism.)

Agakhani dua was also in Gujrati until recently. Karim Agakhan III was able to convert some Muslim into Ismaili in Syria and they had to come up with an Arabic Dua.
I have been into the JamatKhan, I know what Ismaili believe…
Anyone doesn’t believe in Allah (Swt) and Rasulullah (Saw) as last prophet and this life as model for us then that person is not Muslim. Agakhani have rejected Tauheed and Resalat, reject Salat which was a gift from Allah (swt) to Rasulullah (saw) and his ummat. Agakhani rejected Salat, Zakat, Hajj. They consider Agakhan as “Mazhar of Allah”

Would you still consider them Muslim?

BLASPHEMY BY AGA KHAN-IV AND HIS MUSHRIK FOLLOWERS (THE ISMAILI COMMUNITY)- AGA KHAN-IV AND ISMAILI

A HISTORY OF THE AGAKHANI ISMAILIS

A History of The Agakhani Ismailis - Akbarally Meherally

Islamaili (Aga Khani) and their difference of belief from Muslims.? Read think & Comment

Who are Ismaili (Aga Khani) ?

Islamili (Aga Khani) and their difference of belief from Muslims.

The Ismailis (followers of the Aga Khan) all professedly believe that the Qur’an was time bound and was not meant to be a Universal message for all times. They believe that their spiritual leader, Karim Aga Khan, is the “walking – talking Qur’an” and his “religious pronouncements”, whatever they may be, are the “guidance” for the present times. The fundamental article of faith that there will not be any NEW revelations or “wahy” after the Qur’an, is being completely violated by the Ismailis.

The Aga Khan has officially Declared himself, before his followers, as the “Mazhar of Allah on earth”. The word “mazhar” means “copy” or “manifest”. Consequently, these Ismailis who call themselves Muslims do “sujood” before him. So even the primary axiomatic principle of Tawheed is being fundamentally and formally violated by them.

The Ismailis are not instructed to offer the Islamic Salaah, observe Saum or perform Hajj. They have replaced Salaah with certain shirk-infested Dua’as (thrice a day). They are told that their Hajj is a personal “Glimpse” (Deedaar) of Karim Aga Khan.

The Aga Khan and his appointees ‘forgive the sins’ of the followers on regular basis. Ismailis are misled into believing that they will not be questioned on the Day of Judgment for the sins that are already forgiven in their Jamatkhanas (community centers). Forgiving of sins is the exclusive prerogative and privilege of Allah (swt) alone. Qur’an 3:135.

Against this backdrop, most of the poor (spiritually poor) Ismailis who are not introduced to al-Furqan are confused and misguided. Hence, Ismailis are very easy prey to missionary efforts by various Christian groups and Baha’is. I have known a couple of young ex-Ismailis who are today preaching “Pauline Christianity” to Ismailis as evangelical missionaries.

Karim Aga Khan’s own daughter Zahra having married a practising Christian has opened the gates for young Ismailis girls to follow the footsteps of a family member of their beloved Imam-e-Zaman. The parents of the Ismaili girls who wish to marry outside of Islam have no recourse but to let them go.

The Aga Khan has made Halaal for the Ismailis that which Allah has made Haraam for the Muslims. Taking of interest (usury) is not forbidden by the religious instruction classes run by the “Tariqaah” board of the Ismailis. As a matter of fact, the much publicized “Venture Capital” program (details on the website of FORBES Magazine – search under “Aga Khan”), of loaning funds on interest by the AKFED (Aga Khan Fund & Economic Development), has been a great success. Similar entrepreneurial projects are now being actively promoted and introduced to poor Muslims of Tajikistan and neighboring areas.

The Muslim Ummaah and the various Muslim leaders are not fully aware of these Un-Islamic acts and beliefs of this community of less than two million members, who claim to be the Ismaili Muslims. Surprisingly, their leader Aga Khan claims himself to be a spiritual leader of 15 million Muslims and a Direct Descendant of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam).

Earlier, one did not have authentic books on Ismailism, but it is not so anymore. There are two authentic books as well as one comprehensive web site exposing the inner practices of the Ismailis and the Proclamations (Farmans) of the Aga Khans. Hence, now you have no “hujjah” argument or excuse left before Allah (swt) for not taking up the task of inviting the misguided “Ismaili Muslims” towards the Deen of Allah (swt) and not safeguarding them from committing unpardonable sin of Shirk.

The Aga Khan in collaboration with so many Western powers and aid, has set up the world-wide Aga Khan Development Network (AKDN) which runs several institutions and service companies both in the profit and not for profit sectors. This network is very actively operating in Pakistan, India, Tanzania, Uganda, Kenya and Bangladesh, and has now started concentrating its efforts in Tajikistan and the neighbouring areas where there is a concentration of Muslims who have not known or openly practised Islam for the decades. By taking up economical, social, educational and rural development efforts through NGOs (Non-Govt. Organizations) within the AKDN, the Ismailis and the Aga Khan have gained wide acceptance amongst these countries and masses.

nGenius · December 17, 2009, 7:35am

Ismaili (Agakhani) religious practice - you be the judge???

nGenius · December 17, 2009, 7:47am

It is very strange to see White people wearing sari.

Do you know anything about Ismailism (Agakhanism)?

ShimmerV · December 17, 2009, 8:05am

I pitty ur ignorance cuz this is a faker whos trying to ruin our reputation whos one of those ppl convinced that our name should be spoiled…chk out the difference urself!

On the right is some old thariki budha trying to act like Prince karim and on left is one of prince karims latest picture…they arnt the same…these pictures are circulating the net to put us down!

if u research on this tharki budha he lives in pakistan and his followers are called “bapu waley” as its a random minor people in parts of pakistan!

Next time do ur research..like i do mine!

nGenius · December 17, 2009, 8:22am

What reputation? You are not Muslim. You are Ismaili, you follow Agakhan.

You don’t follow the relgion of Islam. You dont’ follow the Holy Quran, and Sunnnah of Rasulullah (saw). Agakhan is an imposter and his gay son will take you to Agakhani Jannet where everyone will be Speaking Gujrati.

If Agakhan is “Mazhar of Allah” or “GOD” than why he got beatup by 2 homeless people in Paris, France. If he is “GOD” couldn’t he stop them? Why would Agakhan “GOD” has gay SON?

I admire him as leader and his humanitarian effort (AgaKhan hospitals and educational institutions) but he is not a Religious Leader and he doesn’t practice Islam.

**I dont’ understand why Agakhani people are so ignorant when it comes to religion.

Who are you trying to FOOL? The whole Muslim world know that Ismaili are not Muslim.**

I know all about Ismailis cult, Momen, Khoja, Baapii (came from Agakhani), confused Ismailis.

**Let me know if you ever want to do a debate on Islam vs Ismailism (Agakhanism, or history of Agakhan).
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Few thing Agakhan has to change before he can be consider Muslim.

Belief in Kalima (Have correct AQeeda (Thoheed and Resalat))
Order all the Ismailis to pray 5 times a day, Fast in the Month of Ramadan, pay Zakat (to people who are in need, not to Agakhan who is already rich), Perform Hajj.
No Usheri (Interest)
No Alcohol and No gambling
Follow proper Islamic dress code.
No dancing (Dandia is not part of Islam) and dating allowed in Islam
Publicly acknowledge that he is not a Imam, just a political leader of Ismailis

goodnews · December 17, 2009, 8:33am

:rotfl:** Yeh lerkion ke paaon kion choom raha hai ulathisab hu raha hai warna amoman khateen peer sahab ke paon choti hai:omg:**

ShimmerV · December 17, 2009, 8:38am

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Before people ask further nonsense questions regarding this fake picture

1.NO we dont have this feet kissing session this is all Bull*hit..he dosnt have so much time to go to peoples houses n personally have such sessions...even if he did its not what my cast is about...so NO we DONT do this n its bogus

2.In a normal meeting when he comes there are thousands of people sitting as to what he talks about i have already mentioned in the religion thread u guys can view it there, than he talks to the leader and presidents of the country's jamat and goes to meet the government officals than flys back. his and general public interaction is limited to what he says standing on the podium.

3.i recommend everyone here who hav a genuine curiosity to know about us should refer to our madrasas tareeqa books..if u have ismaili freinds or know someone please ask them to lend u their books in any part of the world they are our books are the same maybe than ull know we are as muslim as u all cuz its obvious how much ever i say u will not believe so might as well open our books n see.

4.As i live in dubai i can give u genral refrence of here..so In dubai now our jamat khana is open for the tour of general public which till date was not allowed so again many curious heads can visit dubai's ismaili center whenevr they are here.

i duno what more can i say..i have opened our books n our doors for u now its for u to explore the truth urselves.

goodnews · December 17, 2009, 8:49am

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^^ BTW ham on kitabon per Iman nahi rakhty ju aap perhny ko keh rahi hain aur nonsense ki kiya bat hy mery question main:aq:
Ju pic main dikh raha hai os ke barey maon bara ilmi qisam ka swal pocha hy ke tasweer jaalli hi sahih banaey waley ki hujat kiya hai is ki tahsheer se aur jis ne ye pics liain osey pata hu ga kiya rasam thi yeh. patta tu chaley rasmon riwajon ka hu sakta hai paaon main dard hu aur sirf phonk mari hu ya koi doctor hu yeh banda kiss kerty hi dard ghaib

cricketplaya · December 17, 2009, 9:16am

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