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Ali Riaz (CEO of Bahria Town/son of MR) has said that he has got nothing to do with Malik Riaz and Arsalan Iftikhar's dealings, somehow it seems they are trying to separate Bahria Town from the issue. Lets see what Malik Riaz says now.
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Ali Riaz (CEO of Bahria Town/son of MR) has said that he has got nothing to do with Malik Riaz and Arsalan Iftikhar's dealings, somehow it seems they are trying to separate Bahria Town from the issue. Lets see what Malik Riaz says now.
LOL... video games aur internet ka zamana hai... baiton ko pata nahee baap kya ker raha hai, baapon ko pata nahee baitey kya ker rahay hain!!!!
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This is what according to Salman Masood (journalist of New York Times) is saying regarding the evidences:
Salman Masood @SalmanMasood](https://twitter.com/#!/SalmanMasood)
**The alleged expenses and payments by Bahria Town folks to Arsalan add up to a grand total of PKR 342,501,254/-
****and then Ali Riaz is saying:
Arshad Sharif** @arsched](https://twitter.com/#!/arsched)
Malik Riaz is no more part of Bahria Town, written statement in SC#familygate](https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23familygate)
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The Official statement of CHOTA Malik ( Ali Riaz Son of Malik Riaz)
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Desperation to save Bahria town
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^^real estate business flourishes on reputation, Malik Riaz should have thought that!!! the billions of rupees he have spent on Journalists, Army officers, Civil Servants and politicians are not going to help save that reputation now!
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A bit humorous in tone but covers all aspects of Family Gate- Journalist-gate Scandal
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The journalists at the center of this scandal would be a little bit nervous presently.
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The journalists at the center of this scandal would be a little bit nervous presently.
They should be, Journalists thought themselves as Un-Touchables... would they able to get their credibility restored?
secondly what will be the future of these journalist if Malik Riaz deny all these allegation and says he have nothing to do with Arslan?
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interesting a few minutes to go before the proceedings begin I guess...
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And MR says:
Still waiting for:
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Question is, while MR was paying all this in last two years or so, he didn't got any relief on any of his cases... then why he continued paying???
and who keeps the documentary evidences of BRIBE? this is more like an Entrapment....
More to it, there is some woman who traveled with Arslan to Monte Carlo, who was she? and when MR is going to bring her in front???
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His statement is self explanatory.
Over Rs340m spent on Dr Arsalan to win favorable verdicts: Malik Riaz - geo.tv
**ISLAMABAD: Malik Riaz statement submitted to the Supreme Court said that more than Rs 340 million were spent on Dr Arsalan Iftikhar’s three foreign tours, Geo News reported.
**The statement added that Dr Arsalan claimed that he could settle the cases fought in his father’s court in favour of Bahria Town but that did not happen.
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Did he want to use these evidences for blackmailing only?
Malik Riaz submits its documents in SC | Saach TV
He also raised legal objections on the case’s hearing mentioning that its illegal for SC to take suo moto notice.
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^^ Funny thing is, he is saying Sou-Moto by CJ is "Ghair-Qanooni".... tells us he have lost it, Malik sahib, rishwat dayna qanooni hay??? agr Arslan nay app say na-jaiz faida uThaya tu app SC say koy Jaiz Kam kerwana chah rahay thay???
This statement of his will get him in deep Shyt
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Bahria Town’s Malik Riaz Hussain has filed a statement in the Supreme Court today claiming that some Rs. 342.50 million was paid over three years to Arsalan Iftikhar Chaudhry, the son of Pakistan’s chief justice, who was allegedly blackmailing him.
These revelations, which had been rumored for months and are only now being owned by the real estate developer, are expected to shift the mainstream narrative, which has been largely sympathetic toward Arsalan and his family. Hussain is appearing in court today and intends to hold a press conference in Islamabad this evening, according to his lawyer.
Arsalan, 33, has told the court that he has never met Hussain or taken any financial favors from him. Documents available with Newsweek Pakistan, however, show that Hussain’s son-in-law Salman Ahmed Khan, who is based in London, covered Arsalan and his family’s summer visits to the U.K. in 2011 and 2010 by spending some £40,000 on flats and hotel rooms in Central London and on luxury car rentals. Khan may also have sponsored Arsalan and his friends’ airfare and five-star stay in Monte Carlo two years ago. The documents also include Arsalan’s Pakistani passport copy (No. AM4194022), U.K. visa (No. UK358685N) and international driver’s permit (LE-10-1605-INT).
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In 2011, Arsalan stayed in Room No. 2413 at the London Hilton Park Lane from March 25 to April 3, and the £4,778.96 tab was picked up by Hussain’s son-in-law Khan.
On Arsalan’s second visit to the U.K. the same year, he signed a short-term lease with Copperstones Limited to rent the two-bedroom Flat No. 18 at 68, North Row, London. But the advance payment of £17,342 to Copperstones was made by Khan, from his personal account on June 14 and June 17, according to the documents. After the lease ran out, Arsalan and his family, including his mother and siblings, moved into two rooms, including Room No. 231, at the nearby London Marriott Hotel Park Lane for two nights. When Arsalan and his family checked out, Khan used his Visa card to settle the bill of £3,376.80. During this trip, Khan also paid £4,800 to Theoco Limited on Church Lane to cover the four-week rental of a Range Rover Sport (license No. GU59NUK). Invoice No. 0174 dated June 20, 2011, issued by the rental company bears Arsalan’s signature; the payment was made by Khan through wire transfer three days earlier on June 17.
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The year before that, Arsalan rented a Range Rover Sport (license No. HSTLA08UBC) for five weeks from the same car company; again, Khan paid £3,000 for this vehicle on June 29 and another £2,348.31 on July 6 through personal checks against invoice No. 0089 dated July 3. Khan also purchased, through credit card, three roundtrip British Air tickets from London to Nice. The reservation details mention the three passengers as Arsalan Iftikhar, Ahmad Khalil and Sana Hanfi. According to the reservation document, the passengers were booked to fly out on July 25 and return on July 29. Additional documents of that trip show that Khan also booked two rooms for four nights for the three at Monte Carlo’s five-star Hotel de Paris. Khan wired the hotel €5,200 (£4,199.64) through wire transfer on July 21, 2010.
Additional documents supporting Hussain’s claims that a total of Rs. 342.50 million was paid to Arsalan are not available with Newsweek Pakistan.
In his affidavit, Hussain reiterates that he was being “blackmailed” by the chief justice’s son and was forced into going public. He has disavowed the involvement of the ruling party or the Army—he has close contacts with both—from his actions.
Hussain’s revelations may put paid to Arsalan’s claims in court and to the press. Speaking to The News, an English-language Pakistani daily, Arsalan said his construction and telecom businesses were “valued” at Rs. 900 million ($9.89 million), employ 400 people, and that while he had been asked through a common friend to speak in favor of Bahria Town to his father, he simply chose not to. He says his foreign trips cost Rs. 5 million, an amount he subsequently reimbursed to a friend not linked directly with Bahria Town. Arsalan also claimed that his friend spotted him because he had not wanted to carry so much cash around. He has acknowledged that he spent £12,000 on flat rent in 2010 and £14,000 last summer.
Arsalan did not wish to comment for this story.
The corruption allegations against Arsalan are not new. The 2007 reference against the chief justice prepared by the then government of Pakistan cited the judge’s alleged seeking of favors to secure his son government sinecures as the No. 1 charge against him.
Post-midnight on June 6, the Supreme Court took notice of media rumors that Hussain may be carrying damning evidence against Arsalan. Hours later, in the first hearing of that case, the chief justice swore on the Quran that he had no knowledge of his son’s sudden wealth or business dealings. Hussain is expected to say otherwise in court today.
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Its interesting MR himself is trying to get away from the case, and trying to portray as if it was something between Arsalan and his son in law and that the former blackmailed him.
Ajmal Jami @ajmaljami](https://twitter.com/#!/ajmaljami)
Neither me nor my son has given money to Arsalan Iftikhar, rather he blackmailed my son in law for all the money he received.. #MR](https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23MR) #SC](https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23SC)
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Sana Hanfi ===> the new name, lady who was with Arslan and Ahmed Khalil during their trip to Monte-Carlo
And why Arsalan was black mailing his Son in Law? is there something Son in law did which shouldn't be known to law?
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His son in law should be summoned to the court now. According to MR he has never met Arsalan or given any money to him, so now its Arsalan versus Salman. The court should also see from where did Salman get the amount to pay off Arsalan.
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1) Please name any institution other then army who have over-stepped??? and no Judiciary is not over-stepping just because it has decided to not to obey army any more cannot be called over-stepping
Any institution (or head of institution) that does corruption, nepotism, mismanagement, misconduct and power abuse oversteps their authority and trust. I can give many examples, but giving one or two from different national institutions.
Judiciary: For instance, judiciary overstepped when Iftikhar chaudhary made CM of Baluchistan get his son admitted in medical college on CM seat and later IC used judiciary power to get his son job in police. Every Pakistani knows that most judges are corrupt and take bribe to delay cases or give wrong judgment, and that is also overstepping of judiciary.
Executive: When Nawaz Shareef sacked army chief without any reason or show cause notice, he overstepped his power and thus institution of prime minister’s office was abused. Well, every time NS and BB used power trusted on them to do corruption, nepotism, and power misuse, institution of prime minister’s office was abused.
Bureaucracy: Every time bureaucrats do corruption, nepotism or misuse their office, they overstep power of bureaucratic institution trusted on them, and thus institution of bureaucracy gets abused. [Whenever land grabbers occupy land and get it legalised in his name (like Malik Riaz), a bureaucrat is involved in doing that legalisation, and that involvement of bureaucrat is overstepping of bureaucratic institution].
Police: Every time police torture, wrongly implicate, kills someone on fake encounter, take bribe, punishes innocent to make their boss happy or for money, etc, the institution of law enforcement agency oversteps and thus ... institution of law enforcement agency gets abused.
So on ... and all above what I mentioned is happening on daily basis in every Pakistani institutions, that means, all Pakistani institutions are overstepping the power they are entrusted and thus abuse happening.
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2) That is hilarious, army gets the beating of their life from India, from US from terrorists with in and then comes out and conquer their own country... now that is ofcourse not over-stepping, that is treason....
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What you mean by conquering own country or treason?
To me: All who can (including armed forces), they should act when they see country getting looted and plundered by people in power.
Actually if army sees that country is getting looted by thugs in power regardless of how they got into power, political or whatever means, then it is their duty to act against these thugs and throw them out of power (rather hang them so country get rid of corrupt thugs). It is not that if they act then it would be treason, rather if they would not act then it would be treason.
For me, whenever Pakistan Army took over power, they did not conquered but performed their duty and served the country. To me, those who lie to people and get into power due to their lies, it is they who conquer the country and after conquering they loot and plunder. It is obvious, as those who conquer a land do not serve that land but loot and plunder that land, and do nepotism by rewarding those who were with them in conquering the land, what Pakistani thugs in politics do every time they conquer Pakistan into power. Their looting and plundering country is treason, not army kicking their ass.
As for army getting beaten by USA, India and terrorists, that is big BS statement. Be realistic. Pak army never fought USA. Pak army performance against India is reasonable if one look at resources of each ... as Pak defence budget is ~ $6 billion whereas Indian defence budget is $41 billion dollars (or 7 times Pakistan defence budget).
As for terrorists, they are engraved in Pakistani society and have no ethic or religion. Pakistan army is teaching them good lesson, but traitors in Pakistani society (including some in armed forces too) are supporting these terrorists giving them strength, thus job of fighting them is difficult.
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3) Who breeds this corrupt politicians, from ZAB to IK, all of them are raised in the nursery of Army, all of them are made leader out of them by the Army and all of them gets punished if they refuse to listen to the army... and it is army who turns blind eye to their looting as long as it doesn't harm their very own interest.... sorry to say, had army let the natural process of the leadership continue, we might have had a better crop of leaders in the country, the leaders who won't look at GHQ or USA for orders.. but army is scared of National Parties, Parties that have influence throughout the country and that is because Army never wants the country to be ruled by civilians...
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You are right that many in Pakistani politics are product of military patronage. But that does not mean these thugs once get on their feet become corrupt and start corrupting other institutions too. Anyhow, it is not true that all Pakistani politicians who got into power had military patronage. Actually, in strict sense only one politician who got into power got there due to military patronage. For instance, those who got into power:
ZAB: Had military patronage but started his political career opposing military.
BB: Never had military patronage and got into power without military patronage.
Zardari: Never had military patronage and got into power without military patronage.
Nawaz Shareef (he is the unique one out): He is only politician who had military patronage and also got into power due to military patronage.
Anyhow, one thing is common amongst all above 4 civilian politician who got into power, that is all mentioned misused and abused their power, did nepotism, did mismanagement, etc ... and last 3 were/are mega corrupt. These politicians are guilty of treason (as they harmed the country), and deserve getting treated like traitors.
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4) Yeah No one but them, name any politician who have harmed country without getting in bed with Army, Country lost their eastern side because of pro-longed army rule on the country and because army never wanted to loose grip of power, even if it means to have ZAB in their bed... army lost the Siachen while they were asleep, US forces moved and out of Pakistan, conduct operation within a army city of Pakistan and army comes to know about it by GEO news.... yeah no body but they have harmed country, and that is because they are over-stepping big time!!! No to mention blackmailing everyone in the country using our money...
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You are wrong that Pakistan lost East Pakistan due to prolonged military rule. East Pakistan was lost because most policy makers in power were from West Pakistan (especially Punjab) who mistreated East Pakistan from 1947 onward in many respect, causing desire of separation amongst East Pakistani political leaders and educated middle class. Bhutto only made that inevitable of separation to happen sooner, that is all.
As for Army’s performance when dealing with American or Indian forces, then we have to be realistic and know that Pakistani armed forces have limited ability. Pakistan defence budget is ~ $6 billion for year 2012-13 whereas India’s defend budget for 2012-13 is ~ $41 billion (or ~7 times more than Pakistan). It means Indian armed forces on paper are 7 times stronger than Pakistan too.
As for USA, their defence spending for year 2012 was over $1000 billion and it would be stupidity for Pakistan to deal with them militarily. On the other hand, American forces are not even fighting Pakistan anyway. What they are doing is what Pakistan army wants to do too, and hence American and Pakistani forces are allies against same enemies. That is different matter that Pakistan do not openly declare American alliance due to political reasons and home consumption, because there are many Pakistanis who are mentally traitor towards Pakistan as they love those who are bombing, maiming and killing innocent Pakistanis in markets, mosques, mazars, etc ...and are also fighting Pakistani state and Pakistan armed forces.
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5) So building DHAs, grabbing precious lands throughout the country, running mine fields, running logistics business at the cost of railways, bidding and building roads through out the country on profit-base contracts, and get their ass whipped by Indians, Iranians, Afghanies and Americans all the time!!! is that what not called over-stepping and is that what we built the army for???
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It is really funny and mostly lies what you wrote above. :). Pakistan armed forces have always whipped the ass of Afghans and it was due to Pakistan armed forces Taliban occupied large track of Afghanistan. Pakistan never fought Iran or America to make ridiculous comments you made. Pakistani forces did reasonably well fighting with India when one compares what India spends on their forces and what Pakistan spends ... as ratio is 7 to1.
And to call army interference in government affairs as overstepping is completely ridiculous. Pakistan forces get paid from people’s taxes and it is their duty to see if Pakistan is not getting looted and plundered. They would not interfere if Pakistani politicians would rule the country without corruption, nepotism, mismanagement, misuse of power, and misconduct.
Question you should ask is that: Is it what Pakistanis vote politicians to do corruption, nepotism, mismanagement, power misuse, treat ordinary citizen (voters) as animal, do misconduct, grab all national wealth, sell country to outside forces, and continuously loot and plunder the country.
If army do not act against these thugs then who would act ... Angels from sky?
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6) Yeah, they can thrash anybody any where, and that is the reason that in Mushy era army officers never dared to where their uniform in civil area as they may get the favor back by the people of Pakistan
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Please do not talk about Mushy era with contempt, as only corrupts and thugs in Pakistan talk about Mushy era with contempt because they were losing their chance of looting and plundering the country. Well, others who talk bad about that era are traitors who love terrorists fighting Pakistan and killing innocent Pakistanis everywhere.
As for progress and development what Pakistan seen during Mushy era, I wonder if Pakistan would ever see such golden age again. For me, I have all appreciation for him because during his time Pakistan has seen huge development, progress, poverty reduction, stability, and growth ... in every area of life.