Facts VS. Reality

We grew up listening about 9 planets, believed it like we believe in the existence of sun or earth.

And boom, all of a sudden, we are told that we have only 8 planets. Pluto is no longer classified as a planet.

Some data become so much part of our reality that when its taken away, it becomes hard to digest the new reality.

I am sure that same thing must have happened when people learned that earth is not the center of solar system, or earth is not flat.

So facts don’t change into reality, in one day for us. It takes a long time for us to make that transition.

What is reality then?

Your thoughts about the facts vs. reality would be well appreciated.

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chachu this is nothing…imagine when Galileo Galilei proved Aristotle wrong, which were accepted as a Gospel truth :halo:

but no matter what it define that ALLAH SWT her cheez per qadir rektain hain. jis zer’ay ko cheyain sitara baneyain, or jis ko cheyeain roond dain.

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Reality is Subjective and Relative. It remains a fact or virtual fact so long as we have the evidence to support it. Now, how reliabale the evidence is, is another question because evidence is also judged for its credibility based on available facts ...

Facts are just altar-reality.The facts that are universal and never changing. They can become subjective too and it depends upon many factors, such as religious facts. What I as a muslim believe to be a fact may not be taken as a fact by non-muslims.

Important thing is that as long as reality remains a fact, accept it as a fact but when fact is changed to reality, then seek and search for evidence.

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Facts are facts for us, only if we believe in them. So Facts are subjective too. We don’t believe in Darwin theory, though all the scientific theories support it as a fact

very strange example. None of the theories are considered facts. I did say Facts are subjective too, did not I :)?

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This is what the definition of Theory is in science.

In science a theory is a testable model of the manner of interaction of a set of natural phenomena, capable of predicting future occurrences or observations of the same kind, and capable of being tested through experiment or otherwise verified through empirical observation. For the scientist, "theory" is "fact". For example, it is a fact that an apple dropped on earth has been observed to fall towards the center of the planet, and the theories commonly used to describe and explain this behavior are Newton's theory of universal gravitation (see also gravitation), and the general theory of relativity.

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For me reality is the fact that I gotta get up and go change my baby’s diaper right about now… :emmy:


bhai. If scientists want to be progeny of apes, I have no problem. I will rather disaccosiate myself from that dis-illusioned fact and accept the religious fact of I being the son of Adam - who was a special creation.

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Darwin's theory was just an example AQ. I also follow what you say. I am just saying that fact is as subjective as reality.

You must have heard of 'Flat Earth Socitey". Even in this day and age, they have over 1000 members who believe that earth is flat. No fact can change thier belief in flat earth.

Niksik, there is reality, then there is fact ... then there is truth. You are suffering from the dark side of truth that baby do poop in their diapers :D

I am not sure where is the disagreement though.

Your third para of post #3

Fact = all babies poop
Truth = my baby poops when I am in the middle of something real important or fun
Reality = I gotta go change her for fear of terrible consequences.

In this case, all three are interchangeable.

Sorry, enough distraction for you folks :snooty:

its not a delusion....Quran talked about this Quom The Sabbath Breakers in Surah An-Nisa

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Just to add some more confusion:D

Sometimes, the things that we are being convinced with are not reality. And sometimes, reality has such an ugly face that our hearts do not want to accept it as a fact - and when that happens, people end up hurting themselves. So the solution is to have an insensitive heart.. may be!

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So is Pluto really not a planet?
I'm really upset to hear that...
It's been in my brain for so long and now they want me to erase it?

So what is Pluto now?

You are refering to the ayah "koonu Qiradatan Khaase-een" ??

So, you are saying since people (jewish tribe) were converted to monkeys, therefore, humans have monkeys as their ancestor?

Did you read further down and realize that none of them survived after the punishment?

facts are facts, but the fact is we call them facts when we are made to face those facts, otherwise hum khush to humari dunia bhi khush....baki saray jayin bhar main.

Its now considered one of the largest object in the aestroid belt that is known as Kuiper belt.

So its a very large aestroid, now

I see.
At least they should make a Hollywood movie on Pluto to pay respect and cover the years of damage they have done. :snooty:

how old is your younger one,