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Originally posted by Ex-Army:
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We have troops there and more dropping in everyday. Remember when they fought the Russians they had money coming from us. No money no bullets, no bullets no war. They lose and they know it. We are setting up a new place on Guam for them to live I hear.**
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What do you think the opium production is for?
Baking cakes?
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
[This message has been edited by CM (edited November 24, 2001).]
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Originally posted by CM:
** What do you think the opium product is for?
Baking cakes?
CM,
Now you admit the Taliban were the drug dealers all along. Do you think with all the bombing you have any poppy fields left. I think not.
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Originally posted by Ex-Army:
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We have all the time in the world to wait him out. **
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Is that what the US President said on 6th October when he launched this attack on Afghanistan? No. Why not?
CM,
Khandahar is still under Taliban control, that does not constitute a government. The repression seems to be continuing:
KARACHI, Pakistan, Nov. 22 – Three Pakistani militants just returned from Afghanistan said today that Taliban zealots and their foreign comrades, determined to fight to the finish, have detained the wives and children of hundreds of Afghan fighters in Kandahar to prevent them from surrendering or fleeing.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3526-2001Nov22.html
Al-Quaida Leaders? Read:
QUETTA, Pakistan (AP) - A Taliban official confirmed Saturday that terrorist leader Mohammed Atef was killed along with seven other al-Qaida members in a U.S. attack three days ago.
Mullah Najibullah, a Taliban official in the southern Afghan town of Spinboldak, told The Associated Press of Atef’s death but would not identify the other al-Qaida members who died with him.
http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/ap/20011117/ts/attacks_atef_3.html
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Originally posted by Ex-Army:
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Originally posted by CM:
** What do you think the opium product is for?
Baking cakes?
CM,
Now you admit the Taliban were the drug dealers all along. Do you think with all the bombing you have any poppy fields left. I think not.
**
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When did i say they were not???
They deal in drugs just like the NA.
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
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Originally posted by Malik73:
** Is that what the US President said on 6th October when he launched this attack on Afghanistan? No. Why not?
Sure is, he said how ever long it takes.
Ohioguy, what consitutes a govt then???
Second 8 of how many???
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
CM,
Look it up yourself. The point is, momentum has swung here whether you guys want to believe it or not. Would you like to be a Taliban commander right now?
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Originally posted by Ohioguy:
**CM,
The repression seems to be continuing:
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Did you forget to mention the child-killing by the NA in Mazar-i-Sharif? The Red cross has found hundereds of bodies so far? Or the fact that American planes may have killed 150 civilians alone in one attack on Kunduz last week?
And tell us has the US successfully installed a new government in Afganistan yet?
[This message has been edited by Malik73 (edited November 24, 2001).]
Malik,
One middle-aged editorial writer refers to "boys" and you sling it around forever.
Of course next week you will be using the same quote to prove that the west is racist, and that by calling Afgahn soldiers "boys" she is being racist and demeaning by calling brown men "boys" much as the Americans used to call Blacks "boys".
It crossed your mind didn't it?
As far as airstrikes killing civilains, link it with a valid and reliable news report from an independant source that has actual eyewitness information. And if CNN doesn't count, the neither does Al-Jazeera.
[This message has been edited by Ohioguy (edited November 24, 2001).]
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Originally posted by Ohioguy:
**Malik,
One middle-aged editorial writer refers to "boys" and you sling it around forever.
**
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Sorry but if we remember rightly it was you who asked for a link to prove that there were children masscred in Mazar by America's allies. You got that link from a neutral source, and now you are crying over it. It's sad the limits some people will go to defend child killers, rapists, bandits and murdering thugs. Especially when there is ample recent historical and factual proof of these deeds.
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Originally posted by Ohioguy:
**CM,
Look it up yourself. The point is, momentum has swung here whether you guys want to believe it or not. Would you like to be a Taliban commander right now? **
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Excuse me no.
You define it.
You are talking about no govt.
You define it.
Be a Taliban never.
They are blight on islam.
Both they and the NA are scum.
But atleast the Taliban brought law and order and stability to the nation.
The had enough food to eat.
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
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Originally posted by Ohioguy:
**As far as airstrikes killing civilains, link it with a valid and reliable news report from an independant source that has actual eyewitness information. And if CNN doesn't count, the neither does Al-Jazeera.
[This message has been edited by Ohioguy (edited November 24, 2001).]**
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And you say you read the Guardian and Independent.
They have plenty of news.
So does the economist.
Take off those rose tinted glasses.
Plus malik man well said.
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
It's sad the limits some people will go to defend child killers, rapists, bandits and murdering thugs. Especially when there is ample recent historical and factual proof of these deeds.
Are you talking about the NA or Taliban it seems they run neck and neck on these issues. Niether one are any good.
Neutral source? She is an editorial writer 6,000 mile away. None of the eyewitness reports, including the Red Cross reported "children".
Amazing that you can still declare victory on such a thin thread of evidence.
That is why I NOW ask for an eyewitness report, rather than any link google will turn up!
Yeah Ex-Army but do you hear us saying that killing children is ok???
No.
You hear Myvoice and ohioguy saying that.
The Taliban did not commit rape.
Yes they said women could not have a life.
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
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Originally posted by Ex-Army:
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Originally posted by CM:
** What do you think the opium product is for?
Baking cakes?
CM,
Now you admit the Taliban were the drug dealers all along. Do you think with all the bombing you have any poppy fields left. I think not.
**
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No one said that they were not. Maybe you should go back and re-open old threads, then you will know us better.
But drug dealing was out of fashion in last 2 years. Ask UN.
“na maiN* momin vich masiitaa*N, na maiN* muusaa, na fir'aun!”
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Ohio guy seems to be changing his mind like a woman shopping for shoes.
He first wants a link.
Then he wants an objective link.
Then he doesn’t want an AL-jazeera objective link.
Now he wants eyewitnesses.
Malik and me have you running around in circles!!
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/biggrin.gif
http://www3.pak.org/gupshup/smilies/hehe.gif
Ours is not to reason why;
Ours is but to do and die
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Originally posted by Ali_R:
** No one said that they were not. Maybe you should go back and re-open old threads, then you will know us better.
But drug dealing was out of fashion in last 2 years. Ask UN.
Then where did the 215 kilo's of herion found in a Taliban safe house come from?
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Originally posted by Ohioguy:
Neutral source? She is an editorial writer 6,000 mile away.
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Yes the Observer is a well respected and long time British newspaper, which is strong on facts and let's all have their say, unlike the US State Dept. Did you know that the Red Cross and the UN have also said an enquiry must be launched to see if the NA committed war crimes in Mazar? If you can't believe that then I'm afraid I was right from day one - it's sad the limits some people will go to defend child killers, rapists, bandits and murdering thugs. Especially when there is ample recent historical and factual proof of these deeds.