Re: Exploitation of men, in Islam
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Please don't fret over women being thankful or unthankful. I only feel like being thankful to Allah (SWT) for blessing me with a religion like Islam, alhamdulillah. I don't see why I would have to go around showing gratitude to males or anyone else for that matter. At max, I'd show gratitude to my parents and family
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I dont remember addressing "you" in particular rather it is all in general. Your taking it all personally is really uncalled for.
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Women also have plenty of responsibilities and duties, but they are of a different nature, such as childbirth and raising kids.
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I fail to see any rational explaination of very skewed distribution of responsibilities upon both genders in Islam.
PCG
*Pakistanis DO NOT have a good track record of following these things. *
I do not agree. I have only put those rights which women demand and they get mostly. Theere are many more which i will discuss later :p
Women in urban pakistan demand separate lodging and they get it as soon as it is financially feasable for husband.
Most of the men in urban pakistan either help their wives or provide servents
Same with gifts ...
Gross lie. They complain every damn day - they bicker to all the ladies in their family, and when they're really frustrated they yell at their wives - I've seen it in real life, and Life2 is full of those stories
That is a separate issue, you are mixing here marital problems. They are present everywhere. Women are equally bad when it comes to yelling and bickering.
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Its not polygamy that I personally am so against - its when its done without the permission of the wives and when its done chori chori chupke chupke in countries where its not permitted...you have to follow the law of the land, and that's how Islam works.**
All these chori chori chupke chupke and one here one there marriages constitute to the huge figure of 10 % out of total marriages. The point is that why you just ignore the rest of 90% monogamous (sp?) marriages and ignore the sane majority of men ?
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Because Pakistani women do not experience the liberties that Islam talks of, for the most part. I can say that my dad does a pretty good job of upholding the qualities that you listed. However, in our own desi community here, I have yet to find a guy like him, objectively speaking. Most emotionally abuse their wives, and if they don't do that, they neglect them, and if they don't do that, then its quite worse what they really do to their women. Its very sad.
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This is what i am talking about here. Contradiction at home and still whining all the time. In urban, moderatley educated Pakistani, women experience lot of liberties and almost zero financial obligation, its just the fact they dont want to admit it. If you are honest you already know the fact. Otherwise you may conduct a survey.
In marriage, wife is not an angle, nor the husband is a devil. Just for the sake of counter arguments
- Women abuse husband both emotionally and financially
- most women always ungrateful to their husband no matter how much luxuries they enjoy. They just pick one weakness in husband and continuously taunt them for that