Men are simple (read dumb), they never realize this. Women are clever, they never tell them.
Islam treats men, the way man treats his donkey (ok! horse. a little respect is not going to change reality). Islam puts heavy burden of responsibilities on the shoulders of men and they increase with time, but thhe never realize it, because of constant encouragement
You are the ‘Strong’ one, you are supposed to take this
it is your duty, it is your ‘responsibility’
The ego factor is satisfied and the donkey does the hard work all his life without complaints :k:
The boy is supposed to earn, for himself and younger siblings. after marriage the wife is your responsibility and the parents too. and then children.
On the other hand a girl or women is not responsible for any one, Financially. Not even for herself. A father is supposed to fulfill each and every need and after marriage, its incumbent upon husband to provide every thing he can afford to his wife and children.
Even if she has any source of income, she is not even required to support her own children. No financial responsibility (islamically) !
Now, Even after the gross total of financial responsibilities on women is a BIG ZERO. Islam gives them substancial part from inheritance of relatives !!
Men usually grow old working for women and taking care of their demands.
While getting a pat on the back …
We (men) should be grateful to western societies, they have provided much needed relief to men. Forcing women to move their lazy behind and earn living for themselves and share financial burden. Govt taking care of old folks, so they are no longer a burden on young men. :k:
The same exploited Muslim men suppress their wives by forcing them to cook, clean, breed and live under the same roof as the husband's family, which then includes cooking and cleaning for the entire khandan.
The same Muslim men take their work tension/stress (and other stress) out on their wives by abusing them verbally and physically and often forcing them to work as well.
Not to forget, in case of desi Muslim males, many of them happen to be misers and this obviously hurts their wives as well.
Islam treats women with respect and dignity, but unfortunately many Muslim men do not.
you know islamically, it is not the women's responsibility to do the household chores either. If she refuses to do it, it's up him to do it himself or find another way.
one other is that if it’s obligatory on husbands to “support them from their means” (Qur’an 4:34) then it’s only right that wives have a like obligation which they should fulfil towards the household… doing the household chores perhaps
if the husband fails to fulfil his obligation (providing for the household) the wife isn’t required to fulfil hers… could get a little chaotic
there are other opinions based on how 4:34 and some hadith are interpreted
ofcourse its only right for both to help out, but it is still not farz on her. There is a difference. The husband has to provide for maid services if she refuses.
^ see nothing is mandatory upon them, and yet they whine
It is sad to see that muslim women never acknowledge the hardwork their men do to fulfill all their needs
If you do a random survey of any desi households, you will find that more than fiftey percent of husbands help in the household chores along with their usual jobs and work.
If women show a little bit of honesty they should realize that they take huge undue advantage of their religious liberties and innocence of men
Islamically
Wife can demand separate lodging, it is their right. Husband has to oblige
they can demand help in household chore, either husband should provide servent or do it himself.
Men are supposed to shower wives with gifts, and when it is a time for payback women run out of options, becuase humble and simple creatures known as men, have very limited needs.
Accept it or not, in Islam men and women are far from equal.
All obligations are for men, all rights are for women.
In Islam maybe. But how many men oblige to or accept these rights? An if its not men, its the society. women generally tend to judge other women on how good they are in housework etc. more so then in education. hence its emphasised on gals from a young age. It is apparent, many dont realise what their rights actually are, and if they do, they don't know how to go about asserting them, esp. if society is constantly at their throats.
Code_Red, whatever the case might be, but keep in mind that Allah (SWT) has made it all just. He (SWT) has given men an upper hand, but that does not mean He (SWT) has over-burdened them or anything of that sort. Allah (SWT) never burdens us greater than the strength we have to bear.
Government takes care of old folks are you sure about that i recived an email with a report on state of care in the Uk for elderly here is a link about how the government cares for elderly in one sector. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/panorama/4655929.stm
As for woman working in the west this is common place not out of choice in most of cases, the cost of keeping a house and sending children to school etc has reached such an extoritionate price that woman dont have no choice but to work to keep the family above water, the government for sure is forcing people into this situation.
Every thing is in favor of women and it is just. Great :k:
Just take it logically, pratically and tell me what are obligations on women and just compare them with that of men.
It is just the fact that Men don’t whine about their enormous obligation imposed on them in Islam, and women complain all the time …
Cooking for whole family …
It is a BIG issue !
Men happily earn living for their family and parents and younger siblings. They never complain. Women, feel like they are pricess of wales. Cooking is such a degrading task for them.
Education …
Although general situation is pathetic but in urban pakistan girls go for higher education in large numbers… and a considerable number of girls do not pursue their careers even after getting professional degrees. MBBS is on top of the list. Many girls just complete their degrees, to enhance their chance of catching good ‘rishtas’ so their hubby will provide them with all the luxuries of life and they will watch soap operas do gossips all their life..
Poligamy…
Huge number of Muslims (more than 90% ) never practice poligamy. And frankly apart from Oil rich bedouins , no sane, normal person can afford to marry two women at the same time. It will drain him both financially and psychlogically. Yet it is the most favorite topic of discussion among muslim ladies nowadays. Honestly, plz do a quick survey to find out how many men in your family have practiced it with their free will.
Sexual Molestation
In Pakistan (as many people are familiar with this country) Cases of rape of Young boys seriously out number the cases of rape of girls by a large margin. Yet no one is bothered to acknowledge the fact, let alone doing something about it.
I am not trying to deny the fact that large number women are treated badly in most of the ignorant societies, areas. But this is a also a reality the women recieve extraordinary liberties and rights sanctioned to them in Islam in moderately educated muslim societies. Sadly they never are grateful. Hardly ever admit that they take undue advantage of their men
Code_Red, so exactly are you lashing out again?Women or Islam? To me, it seems that you are holding something against Islam because Allah (SWT) has given men the upperhand and number of responsibilities that you don't seem to be happy about.
Please don't fret over women being thankful or unthankful. I only feel like being thankful to Allah (SWT) for blessing me with a religion like Islam, alhamdulillah. I don't see why I would have to go around showing gratitude to males or anyone else for that matter. At max, I'd show gratitude to my parents and family.
Women also have plenty of responsibilities and duties, but they are of a different nature, such as childbirth and raising kids.
And if it's all in humour and sarcasm, then I must say it's pretty bad.
Ufff itna zulm ??? 
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