Explain this kalam of Baba Bulle Shah

[gul_khan]

please explain these parts …

Jhangar kanon jhungar changa,
Jaihn wich lakan kuttay,
taykan utay,

Babhan kanoon kalal changa,
Jeera khari peya vi chukay,
taykan utay,

aykon Ka’abay day wich paya noor dissay,
Saday but-khanay wich Huzoor wasay,

Sab nayray taykon door wasay,
Taydi neeyat wich badneetee ay,

[muqawwee123]

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This also includes:

Mullah kanoon kukar changa,
Jeera yaar jagaway sutay,
Taykan utay,

[gul_khan]

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^ yeah it does but I dint understand those parts actually ....

[Nain]

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I dont know punjabi :no:

[muqawwee123]

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^ yeah it does but I dint understand those parts actually ....

someone who knows Punjabi may help. Lets wait. nahin to, I'm going to move this in Language forum

[muqawwee123]

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please explain these parts ....

Jhangar kanon jhungar **changa, Jaihn wich **lakan kuttay, taykan utay,

Babhan kanoon kalal changa, Jeera khari peya vi chukay, taykan utay,

aykon Ka’abay day wich paya noor dissay, Saday but-khanay wich Huzoor wasay,

Sab nayray taykon door wasay, Taydi neeyat wich badneetee ay,

Anyone knowing Punjabi? Can you translate bold words? If possible, complete meaning of lines too. Thanks

[tarash]

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main ne baba ji ka kafi kalam talash kia,mujhay yeh kalam to nahin mila,albata is se related kalam hazir hai

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[muqawwee123]

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Lagta hai ye wala part sab ko mushkil laga hai iss waja se ghayab kar dia. lekin mere khayal se ye asl kalam ka part hai as Abida Parveen used these lines in one of Bulleh Shah’s kaafi

@tarash

main ne baba ji ka kafi kalam talash kia,mujhay yeh kalam to nahin mila,albata is se related kalam hazir hai

[ajazali]

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@muqawwee123

Anyone knowing Punjabi? Can you translate bold words? If possible, complete meaning of lines too. Thanks

these words are pronounced worngly, not same as Abida parveen speaks in that kafi. listen that kafi you might get some idea.

[muqawwee123]

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these words are pronounced worngly, not same as Abida parveen speaks in that kafi. listen that kafi you might get some idea.

will do and come back to report :)

[ajazali]

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will do and come back to *report *:)

its not an order bro, i just missed IF :)
actually me too have some doubt, thats why i was asking.

[ajazali]

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This also includes:

Mullah kanoon kukar changa, Jeera yaar jagaway sutay, Taykan utay,

azaan tu mullah bhi daita, kuch oos ki awaz pe bhi uth-tay hain log
Murgh ki azan se uthnay pe namaz nae parhni parti es leay changi lagti hogi bulle ko :D

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

its not an order bro, i just missed IF
actually me too have some doubt, thats why i was asking.

listened to Abida Parvee, but still can’t getting it completely.

♪ Assan Ishq Namaz JadooN Neeti Ae — Abida Parveen (Kalam: Bulleh Shah)](Folk Punjab | The Punjabi Poetry Archive)

Jhangar kanon jhungar changa,
Jaihn wich lakan kuttay,
taykan utay,

If lakan = hide, then jhoongar seems some hide-out seems these words are not used now in Punjabi

[ajazali]

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@muqawwee123

listened to Abida Parvee, but still can’t getting it completely.

♪ Assan Ishq Namaz JadooN Neeti Ae — Abida Parveen (Kalam: Bulleh Shah)](http://folkpunjab.com/abida-parveen/assan-ishq-namaz-jadoon-neeti-ae-2/)

**Jhangar **kanon **jhungar **changa,
Jaihn wich lakan kuttay,
taykan utay,

If lakan = hide, then jhoongar seems some hide-out seems these words are not used now in Punjabi

these are Thaan-gar and Thoon-gar, let me confirm by someone else then will elaborate.
yes you are right Lakan is hide

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

these are Thaan-gar and Thoon-gar, let me confirm by someone else then will elaborate.
yes you are right Lakan is hide

I think you are right:

thaangar kanu, thoongarr changa..

Abida Parveen - weaving magic with voice

[ajazali]

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So here is what i get from this kafi.

thaangar kanon thoongar changa,
Jaihn wich lakan kuttay,
taykan utay,
*a garbage place or decayed building is better than villas and farm house as animals like dogs survive there. Here poet highlighting and cursing elite class for caring not about poor people *

panmbhann kanon kalal changa,
Jehrra kharri peya v chukkay,
taykan utay,
*Brahmins are good for nothing and Shudras are better than Brahmins as they preform cleansing work. Criticizing the caste system in Hinduism *

meanings and explaination:
thaangar = living place
thoongar = Trash, garbage place or a place where scorpios are found
Lakan= hiding
dogs usually are found in dirt places in villages as there is a saying regarding dogs "Pind nu agg lagi tey kutta ruhrri te".

panmbhann= Brahmins
Kalal= someone who performs cleansing work, shudras.
Kharri= agay = in front.

[muqawwee123]

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@ajazali

So here is what i get from this kafi.

thaangar kanon thoongar changa,
Jaihn wich lakan kuttay,
taykan utay,
**a garbage place or decayed building is better than villas and farm house as animals like dogs survive there. Here poet highlighting and cursing elite class for caring not about poor people **

panmbhann kanon kalal changa,
Jehrra kharri peya v chukkay,
taykan utay,
**Brahmins are good for nothing and Shudras are better than Brahmins as they preform cleansing work. Criticizing the caste system in Hinduism **

meanings and explaination:
thaangar = living place
thoongar = Trash, garbage place or a place where scorpios are found
Lakan= hiding
dogs usually are found in dirt places in villages as there is a saying regarding dogs “Pind nu agg lagi tey kutta ruhrri te”.

panmbhann= Brahmins
Kalal= someone who performs cleansing work, shudras.
Kharri= agay = in front.

well done and thanks :k:

thaangar is also used in Sindhi but its a composite word =Thath (Thatt) Thaangar = Shan o Shokat. This is the word which is basis from the name of Thatta (a city which was capital of Sindh and learning centre for long time)

[ajazali]

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@muqawwee123

well done and thanks :k:

thaangar is also used in Sindhi but its a composite word =Thath (Thatt) Thaangar = Shan o Shokat. This is the word which is basis from the name of Thatta (a city which was capital of Sindh and learning centre for long time)

Thanks.

yes this word seems compunded as thaan(place) and gar(house) in punjabi also

[gul_khan]

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Thanks a lot you all

[muqawwee123]

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@unknownnn

Thanks a lot you all

Thanks for providing an opportunity to learn something new :)