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Did the prophet (pbuh) and the sahaba (swt) marry only orphans?
Try again.
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^ 21st century is so cool..women can actually work adn support themselves..does the quran have title IX?
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^ good to see you ventured out of your cave.
and no, there are no titles.
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My cave? you are the one talking about 7th century arabian tribal laws...try moving from behind the camel. :)
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Quran encourages women to work and support themselves. Prophet’s (pbuh) wife, khadija was a business woman. The prophet Muhammad (p.b.u.h) himself rewarded women for their willingness to follow the Muslim army and perform medical and civil duties.Ummaya Bint Qays Gaffariyah, who received medal from the hands of the Prophet for her daring exploits during Khayber and Um’Amara who, along with seventy men, took part in the establishment of the first Islamic State. islam never stopped women from doing anything as long as it doesnt interfere with their obligations towards their family.
there u go.. google rocks :k:
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Matty,
sorry but my religion transcends time
news break: there have been self sufficient and independent females since time immemorial but that isn't the issue here
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Thank you
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whatever makes you happy chanda…
i am sure it was the toothfairy who left a quarter under your pillow…
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Skhan, suroor… u guys can talk all you want about how islam encourages womens rights, ur not wrong, but that’s nto gonna change the mindsets of the men who make the laws that help them only…many countries conveniently forget to afford women the rights they were given by Allah.
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but dont let that discourage you, i am sure you can find other religions to update :k:
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women in muslim countries contribute the least to the GDP...the only other place where this is true is subsaharan africa. wonder why? economic freedom gives you social freedom..it gives you choice...it allows you be something other than the property of your husband...but if you are one of 2 or three wives...atleast your misery is shared.
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sara: i agree, the trouble is that people interpret "politics" as "religion". thats when things get confused. heck even arab feminists admit that its not ISLAM that limits their rights, its how its misinterpreted and implemented by mullahs/leaders that limits their role in muslim society.
from another point of view- i was watching some programe, a documentary i believe on the tv the other day, where a saudi woman actually doesnt want any change in the society. according to her, she is living the life of a queen. she doesnt need to drive as a driver is already provided for her. no one restricts here from going anywhere or doing anything. her husband is a billionare and she feels she doesnt need to work at all and she spends as much as she wants, no questions asked. and it doesnt bother her that her husband has 3 other wives. she says it actually helps her to get involve in other social activities, and she doesnt have to worry about taking care of house n all.
khair. its a colourful world out there :-)
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As proven by suroor’s quote, there is nothing in Islam that discourages women from being self sufficient. Some don’t wish to, some just want to depend on their husband. Either way whatever the case, the fault doesn’t lie in the religion but in the people and the way it is practised.
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**Did the prophet (pbuh) and the sahaba (swt) marry only orphans?
Try again.**
Did the Prophet only marry 4 wives?
Try Again.
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Simply because The Prophet PBUH had a divine message and was allowed more than 4 because he was a messenger of ALLAH. The Prophet had 13 or so... but at one time, he had no more than 9. and most of these wives were either widows or women who were divorced...Allah allowed him to marry for as he was an exception.
Women have a longer life expectancy than men.
There are more women than men, and numbers will continue to rise.
More men are getting killed in wars etc, and let's be tuthful, homosexuality is on the uprise.
So if you think about it, it wasn't just a solution for yesterday or the time of the Prophet PBUH it will always be a solution for someone. A decent muslim woman may need to get married and if there are no single men available marrying somebody that is already married can be a logical solution to lead a decent life. being protected and having kids, rather than living alone even though women have careers and are independant marriage is a vital part of life as are children.
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So if no single guy wanted to marry you, you'd go for a married guy?
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Puchi -
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Then 30 and 40 yr old men should not marry 13 - 23 yr old girls/women, you think? That is one of the lamer reasons I have heard, actually a good reason why they shouldn't - more widows in the long run.
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Now, the birth rate is ever so slightly higher (negated by the fact that the infant mortality rate is higher in girls than boys), but men participate in wars. In fights, they kill each other and participate in violent behavior in everyday life a lot more than women. Maybe rather than making up in the deficiency in this way they should focus more on the teachings of Christianity, Islam, or whatever religion they practice. They all say the same thing about peace and tolerance.
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No, homosexuality is more open now, not on the rise. The more accepted it is, the more people will "come out". What I find interesting is that homosexuality seems to be more tolerated than women's rights in areas that condone polygamy.
As to the wars, see above, already addressed.
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So if you think about it, it wasn't just a solution for yesterday or the time of the Prophet PBUH it will always be a solution for someone. A decent muslim woman may need to get married and if there are no single men available marrying somebody that is already married can be a logical solution to lead a decent life. being protected and having kids, rather than living alone even though women have careers and are independant marriage is a vital part of life as are children.
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If women were protected by the laws they would not need the protection of a marriage, again, this has to do with mentality and the absence of viable alternatives to marriage in cultures were polygamy is permitted. Offer those alternatives with no shame and no stigma and how much do you want to guess how many woman would settle for being a second wife? Committed marriage is a vital part of life, yes, in polygamy it is not possible to meet the needs of everyone in the relationship.
As far as the ridiculous story supporting polygamy (wife who loves it because of billionaire man, etc). Geez, how many polygamists are billionaires? I wouldn't care how rich my husband was, I would fight tooth and nail against it (with the exception of the situation I described earlier). I would not be happy and complacent and I would divorce him and still have the money (which I am sure is what that very shallow woman's mind was focused on).
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This is very important. This attitude is prevalent among young Arab women as well.
A friend of mine attended this all-women muslim dinner and had some convos with Arab girls. She was shocked to learn that some of them don’t mind being a 2nd. or a 3rd. wife to some rich old man!
As long as there are women with such a mentality, men will continue to have mutliple wives. The problem is not just men, as often blamed by idiots here, it’s women who are party to this as well.
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You’ve proven my point. Now take off those blinders.
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You people seem to get soo upset at everything. Why is that? I mean if anyone wanted to get married to a married man or if a guy wants to marry another why not? There is nothing wrong with that, as long as both parties agree and are ok with it. Everything is in the Quran black and white. People can do what ever they want. If you don't like it then dont do it, however dont diss those who want to do it.