Evil Eye

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How does one protect itself from an evil eye. Sometimes people call it “nazar laga di” etc.. etc.. umm in this world there are some envious people who have the most sick/dirty/Black eye which can destroy someones life. I need help majorly.

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Wake up....dude
Its 21st century.......
we have plentty of knowledge these days to actually prove tha its only stupid myth.
there is no such thing evil eye.

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Well…Theres a surah but i cant remember it…I think:konfused:

AQ might know:)

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**The last three Surah's in the Holy Quran, reciting them every night protects against all Evil, man made or Jinnaat made.......:) **

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^yea the 4 qul plus aiyat-ul-kursi
also just surah falaq n naas alone keeps u away from hasad n shar.

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if there is smething such as "evil eyes" than read quran nd there r special surahs to stay away from any "evil eye"

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its not stupid myth.Islam believes in it.n with time passing evil is getting stronger everywhere.

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^^i'm not sure wat u mean by that....
but i believe ...if u believe in such things...u'll find a way to relate incidents to ur beliefs.
If someone believes in Ghosts.....they eventually will see ghost all around them...if u believe that evil eye exist and u believe it'll bring bad luck to u ...bad things will happen to only you....cuz u believe in it.....

Its all human mind my friend.....

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^by evil getting stronger i mean now ppl r more jealous of others than in past.If u get success/happiness in any field in ur life only few of ur near ones will b truly happy mostly will b not.
as for believing goes as a muslim i believe in everything Islam believes.

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hahahahah.. people literate enough to use the computer shud b literate enough to know that THE EVIL EYE is nothing but a stupid myth.. wake up *****es ! WAKE UP..

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after reading your post... i believe 'illiterate' can also know how to use a computer....

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That's why they write in front of a truck...

buri nazar waale tera munh kaala.

'bad sight man your mouth black' :)

hellu!
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ever read the quran or hadith in detail? it talks about people doing black magic back in days...so if ppl can do black magic, wth is a little eye evil

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soo ur saying that you dont believe in jins?

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there is no such thing as the evil eye in the literal sense. if u mean people getting jealous of you (your success for example) and as a result of that trying to harm you then modesty is a solution to that. and treating those less privileged than you with respect.

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Quran does not advocate superstition… there is no mention of “Evil Eye” as you know it in the Quran.

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Jinn means "something hidden to sight/perception" .. it could be a being of any form, a person's evil desire, a deception etc... it is a general description and has nothing to do with "Alf Lailah" which is a collection of stories based on "Hezaur Efsauneh" from the time of the Sassanids.

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Audhubillah.......Jinn are Creation of Allah like humans and angels etc.
You don't call your evil desires a.. jinn......you call them ' evil desires '.
here is the translation of surah jinn's first 15 ayahs by Yusuf Ali:
Surah 72. The Jinn, Sprites

1. Say: It has been revealed to me that a company of Jinns listened (to the Qur'an). They said, 'We have really heard a wonderful Recital!
2. 'It gives guidance to the Right, and we have believed therein: we shall not join (in worship) any (gods) with our Lord.
3. 'And Exalted is the Majesty of our Lord: He has taken neither a wife nor a son.
4. 'There were some foolish ones among us, who used to utter extravagant lies against Allah.
5. 'But we do think that no man or spirit should say aught that untrue against Allah.
6. 'True, there were persons among mankind who took shelter with persons among the Jinns, but they increased them in folly.
7. 'And they (came to) think as ye thought, that Allah would not raise up any one (to Judgment).
8. 'And we pried into the secrets of heaven; but we found it filled with stern guards and flaming fires.
9. 'We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.
10. 'And we understand not whether ill is intended to those on earth, or whether their Lord (really) intends to guide them to right conduct.
11. 'There are among us some that are righteous, and some the contrary: we follow divergent paths.
12. 'But we think that we can by no means frustrate Allah throughout the earth, nor can we frustrate Him by flight.
13. 'And as for us, since we have listened to the Guidance, we have accepted it: and any who believes in his Lord has no fear, either of a short (account) or of any injustice.
14. 'Amongst us are some that submit their wills (to Allah., and some that swerve from justice. Now those who submit their wills - they have sought out (the path) of right conduct: 15. 'But those who swerve,- they are (but) fuel for Hell-fire'-

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Read my complete paper on this hareem01 and then comment:

**Jinn/Djinn: What They Really Are

One of the fundamental belief elements proported among traditional muslims is that of the existance of the Jinn/Djinn. These are believed to be magical beings with supernatural powers, and can psychologically and physically affect us humanbeings, but can also be controlled with certain talismans and mantras.

Thanks to such a primitive belief rampant among the muslim populace, many who do not necessarily belive in such "hocus pocus", end up giving up on Islam altogether since they have not been exposed to the real meaning of the word jinn. They have a good reason to come to that conclusion however. The idea of jinn as magical beings creates several contradictions in the Quran, which brings us to the question: If the Quran has contradictions, can it be the word of God? This paper is meant to bridge that gap, and to convincingly refute the idea that the word jinn actually means magical beings. In addition, it will be shown that the meaning of the word jinn in the Quran signifies something deeper and more meaningful in terms of pragmatism.

*A Rudimentary Question *
Have you ever read the story of Alladin? Ever noticed the features of the jinn or genie of the lamp, who has an upper body like a human whereas the lower part of the body is like a whirl-wind? Why do you think all depictions of the jinn in stories show them without legs, and instead a vortex, like a whirl-wind/tornado/dust-devil, is shown for the lower part of the body?

Background
The concept of the now-traditional jinn theory was derived from dust-devils or whirl-winds ... When beduin in deserts of Arabia saw this phenomenon manipulating the the dust and whirling it in the air, they started to associate this pseudo-body with a living being, and named it jinn or jaan; this idea was further propagated by story tellers and gypsies... foremost of such stories are the Alf Lailah wa Lailah (1001 Arabian Nights). Derived from the Pahlavi Sassanid book "Hezaur Efsauneh" in the time of the Abbasid Caliph Harun al-Rashid, this book had various folk tales about magicians, fairies and demons. The Jinn seem to have been incorporated to displace the demons of the Persian stories.

One could easily consider this as a figment of bedu or folk imagination and not give a second thought about fairytales and their connection to a firm belief among muslims. But one has to wonder that this is hardly a coincidence. Obviously we do not have much interest in bedu mythology since it is of one of the most primitive forms. However, what we should be interested in, is how beduin derived their conclusions about whirl-winds being the jinn, based on the meaning of the word...

One of the original meanings of Jinn also implied nomads and cavemen since they were rarely seen by the "Ins" or city/urban dwellers. In fact, in the early days of the advent of Islam, jinn as a magical being was only one of the meanings and was restricted to story-tellers and folklore (beduin could not see what was causing a dust-devil to form so they associated it with a being that was hidden to sight/perception). The concept that the jinn are actually supernatural beings who whisper into mans heart or cause damage to society, is a completely superstitios belief. Let us look into this myth and sift through the veils of time that have caused much sedimentation of the word:

So Jinns Cause Fever and Psychosis?
In the middle ages, the pir/fakeer and mullahs used to declare that people with a fever are actually possessed by a jinn since the body feels like it is on fire. You can see this superstitious belief still prevelent in romote areas of Afghanistan, Somalia and other developing countries where mullahs are called in to recite the Quran for people who have fever. It is belived that the person has been possessed by a jinn and reading the Quran will compell the jinn to leave the body, which of course has nothing to do with the root cause of the fever, an infection caused by germs. If it is suggested however, that germs are hidden to the five human senses in terms of direct perception, hence jinn, then that is an acceptable implication as one of the usages for the term.

Another case is that of psychosis and schizophrenia, where people suffering from such symptoms were (and are) dubbed possessed by jinns/demons and were (and are) tortured until they are compelled to say "I am Leaving"...

If we examine the implication of the word jinn from contemporary Arabic perspective, we get nothing but superstitious conjuncture. However, if we were to look at the word in the classical Arabic sense, then jinn implies something hidden to perception. Jinn in this case could be taken as an unknown/unseen cause for the abnormal physiological or psychological condition. Considering the meaning of the word jinn in classical Arabic, we immediately realize that such people need medical and psyciatric help, not an exorcism! It could very well be the case that early physicians or hukama used this term to label undeterminable causes for medical conditions, and this was later adopted by the pir/fakeer and witch-doctors to propagate superstitions for their selfish gains.

So the Jinn are Created out of Fire eh?
Consider the following verses from the Quran:

55:14,15 (He) created the human (form) out of inorganic matter that sounded like an empty pot. (And it was empty of a trace of the finished form). And created the jinn (psychological aspects, thought processes, that others cannot see or sense) out of a flickering/smokeless flame of fire (nothing but confused/animal-like/fiery disposition). [Refer to 50:16, 21:37 and 2:30 why I used this interpretation]

Of course, the context of the jinn implies this particular meaning for this verse and a select others, but not all of the verses where the word jinn is used. Flickering or smokeless fire refers to the chaotic nature of us humans that we do not see when we are under its influence (hence the word jinn: hidden). Since the intent in this ayah of Al-Rahman was to illustrate that the fire from which jinns are created is metophoric, actually implying chaos/chaotic/primal nature, we are given the indication that it is free from smoke. If jinn were beings made of fire literally, why would Allah declare:

21:30 Are the unbelievers not aware ... that out of water We made every living thing? Will they not, then, acknowledge the Truth?

So traditional jinn-being theory falls flat on its face. The above verses are meant to indicate the physical/apparent and hidden nature of living beings created, principally man himself. We are partly water, our cells are held together by various organic and inorganic compounds and salts. Besides, the way our brain works is quite interesting too since it functions with electrical disharges, something that is fiery and chaotic in nature.

So Iblis is Shaitan (satan), Jinn (demon) and a Malikah (angel)?
Iblis, a word synonymously used for Satan in the traditional Islamic belief, is considered a jinn-being who was demoted from the status of angel or malikah after he rebelled. Actually, this belief is not unlike the biblical story of the Archangel Lucifer (this is ironic, since Christians consider this to be the actual name of Satan described in the Bible, even when this name is European and not Semetic).

Coming back to Iblis, there is no doubt that this name comes from the Arabic root BLS implying sorrow, anguish and grief. Hence, Iblis would mean that element which causes BLS, and implies the rebelious side of mankind. The representation in classical terms is as follows:

  • Iblis as jinn: Something hidden to our psyche (not a separate/living being)

  • Iblis as malikah: Something that can control our psyche (not a separate/living being)

  • Iblis as shaitan: Something that is distanced from truth/reason (not a separate/living being)

A competing theory of the name Iblis is that it was derived from the Greek: Diabolos, which literally means something drawn across (Dia : across, Bolos : throw/draw/cast). Ideologically, it refers to something that causes confusion/deviation from the straight path. This word later became the Roman/Italian Diabolo, Romanian/Slavic Dracul/Dracula, and the English Devil. It is suggested that the "D" was considered as a prefix by the Arabs/Semites and they adopted "Iabolos". This morphed into Iblis in Pre-Islamic Arabia over the centuries. This theory does have its fair share of open-ended questions, foremost of which is why this name or its etymological counterpart is not present in Hebrew, Aramaic or Sabaic.

So Idols are Jinn?
Quran, in 34:41 declares that idol-worshippers worship jinns:

34:41 They will answer, "Glory is Yours! You are our Master, not them. Nay, they used to worship the jinn (invisible guises of their selfish desire). Most of them were believers therein." [Jinn = Hidden from sight. Generally this term in the Qur’an applies to nomads rarely appearing in townships. It is also used to describe rebellious desire, emotions and fiery temperament like Satan 6:101, 18:50, 37:158, 55:15]

Here is a simple question: If we consider the tradition meaning of jinn as a magical being made of fire, is Jesus Christ, the Christian "Son of God" and worshipped as such, a jinn? The implication is that idolators worship completely intangible products of their fantasies: A figment of their imagination - are we back to square one when it comes to bedu mythology?

The Jinn listen to God whispering?
There is an ayah from the Quran that states jinns listen to the words of The God by going up to the heavens. This is a metaphor for astrology and the people who believe in these meaningless conjectures.

67:5 And indeed, We have beautified the sky of the world with shining lamps. And made them objects of futile guesses for the satans (astrologers, yogis, magicians, fortune-tellers and those who distance themselves from reason and intellect). [15:17, 37:6-9, 72:8]. And for them We have prepared the doom of blazing flames (through our law of requital, they bring suffering and stagnation upon themselves due to their continued abandonment of logic).

72:8 And we (the jinn: nomads/shamans) tried to feel the heaven but found it well attended by mighty guards and flames." (The shining Knowledge in the Quran dismisses all conjecture of the shamans, astrologers, fortune-tellers, and other claimants of occult sciences who remain in the background behind lies and deceit).

If we actually believe that jinns travel to outer space to listen to God's decrees, and a flame is sent to push them back to the Earth, then there is a huge contradiction as God is not confined to the heavens according to the Quran:

50:16 Now indeed, it is We Who have created man and We know the whispering that goes on within his mind (all the intricacies of his thought process), for, We are nearer to him than his Vena cava. (One does not have to travel to the far corners of the universe to meet Allah, or hear Him speak).

Moreover, where have the jinn disappeared from this ayah if it is the jinn and shayaateen who whisper in our hearts, unless one of the meanings of the word jinn implies an element of our thought process?

And what of Solomon?
King Solomon is believed to have power over the jinn. Muslim traditionalists base this belief on fabricated hadith and a twisted interpretation of the Quran. Observe the following verse, as to how clear it is regarding the jinn when taken in the context of being hidden:

27:17 Solomon’s army included warrior tribes of the woods and the mountains (rarely seen by the city people, hence jinn), dwellers of townships, and great riders: The Tuyur (they were known for their speed and could "fly with the wind"). They were well disciplined, and dedicated to any appointed mission.

There is no other explanation to the above verse, unless one resorts to superstition and declares that Solomon's army actually consisted of magical beings... Keeping the pragmatism of the above verse in mind, we realize that Solomon's army was vast and diversified, consisting of urban citizens, nomadic tribes, as well as (messenger) birds.

First off, birds such as pigeons were used as a transport for letters in ancient times (consider them an anceint form of high-speed courier service).

Nonetheless, some traditionalists still contend that Chapter 38 is actually referring Solomon having powers over the laws of nature and over the devils. It is curious that the word Shayaateen has been used in verse 35. Shayaateen does not necessarily mean the supernatural devilish beings, but rather those who are unruley and defiant, including men themselves - refer to the last three verses of chapter 114. And winds made subserviant does not mean David was given supernatural powers. Mankind has harnessed the power of wind and water in the last two centuries... foremost example is electric power. These verses mean that Soloman may have been the first king in this region to realize the use of science and reason as a means of progress in Southern Arabia (not unlike Kurosh/Cyrus, which make for an interesting parallel.)

Now let us look at the translation:

38:35 Solomon prayed, "O My Lord! Absolve my imperfections and bestow upon me the gift an unprecedented (leadership of a) kingdom. Verily, You are the Giver of Gifts.” [He did not wish to leave his great kingdom in incompetent hands and in all probability was thinking of merit in preference over lineage.]

38:36 So We gave him the knowledge (which you, mankind, will eventually call science,) of making the wind serve him: It took (his ships) where (he) intended. [Refer to 34:12. Also, we use wind technology for generating electric power. Does that mean we have been given supernatural powers? Solomon must have taken advantage of the Red sea and Arabian ocean to have mass commerce with various nations. "Reeh" means a well-directed wind, and not any random gust: This wind can be harnessed for sailing!]

38:37 And (for building and driving his ships, We) made subservient to him (even) the ravenous/defiant (men) – every kind of builder and navigator. [refer to 21:82 and 34:13. Also, please show me another example in the Quran where supernatural devils are portrayed as those who can build and drive anything. Can men not build and navigate that Solomon had to be given magical beings?]

A last look!
Coming again to the topic of creating of jinn from fire, some people contend that since jinn-beings are made of ignited gas or plasma. There are many forms of energy, plasma being the most crude one since it contains matter particles (plasma is just ignited gas)... Morever, plasma can been seen... in fact, infrared and ultraviolet, and other particle radiotions like neutron and neutrino emissions are invisible but it does not imply they are hidden. If something is hidden, then it could mean it is out of phase from the 4-dimensional time-space, meaning more dimensions exist. A hyper-dimensional (4+) universe is not concivable unless one resorts to String Theory.

Finally, let us approach the "jinn as a mystical being" from a philosophical point of view. One cannot disprove that we are not alone in the universe. There can be an existance of other beings in this and other universes. However, the Quran speaks only of ad-dunya and al-aakhirah of importance for us; this implies that other worlds are of no direct influence or consequence to us.I also want to propose that the universe is a vast expanse... Allah does claim in the Quran that He is the "Lord of the Worlds" (Worlds implying 3+), so there is a possibility of extraterrestrial life in this Universe, and since its existance is thus far hidden from us, it could also imply "jinn".

Quoting Allama Iqbal: "sitron se aagay jahaan aur bhi hen"...

Further, let us observe the following translations of the Quran:

114:004
YUSUFALI: From the mischief of the Whisperer (of Evil), who withdraws (after his whisper),- ok so far
PICKTHAL: From the evil of the sneaking whisperer, ok so far
SHAKIR: From the evil of the whisperings of the slinking (Shaitan), ok so far

114:005
YUSUFALI: (The same) who whispers into the hearts of Mankind,- ok so far
PICKTHAL: Who whispereth in the hearts of mankind, ok so far
SHAKIR: Who whispers into the hearts of men, ok so far

114:006
YUSUFALI: Among Jinns and among men. (so jinn are from mankind?)
PICKTHAL: Of the jinn and of mankind. (again!)
SHAKIR: From among the jinn and the men. (so men/women can whisper into the the hearts/chests of other men/women too.. Well who whispers in the hearts of jinn?)

6:100
RASHAD KHALIFA: Yet, they set up beside GOD idols from among the jinns, though He is the One who created them. They attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims. (Jesus Christ was a man whereas Allat and Uzza are nothing but celestial objects, and were venerated as such!! Refer to 41:37, 18:4 and 53:19 ... Were Jesus and Allat/Uzza created from fire?)

6:128
RASHAD KHALIFA: The day will come when He summons all of them (and says): "O you jinns, you have claimed multitudes of humans." Their human companions will say, "Our Lord, we enjoyed each others' company until we wasted the life span You had set for us." He will say, "The Fire be your dwelling-place." They abide therein forever, in accordance with GOD's will. Your Lord is Wise, Omniscient. (So the jinn will live in fire eh? They should feel right at home if they are made of fire. Is Allah trying to make the jinn comfortable? And if fire is used symbolically for hell, then why do people take it literally for "jinn made from fire"?)

What I believe are correct renditions:

114:4 "From the evil of the whisperings of the blinding desire.
114:5 That whispers in peoples' conscious. (50:16) (notice sudoor, not quloob, signifies active thought process)
114:6 From the hidden (psyche that rationalizes the evil,) as well as (through temptations that come from) people."

6:100 Yet, there are people who falsely attribute Divinity to the (empreically and logically) intangible (products of their psyche: Eg. Christ, Allat/Venus etc.). But He has created them (referring to the immortalized/venerated people or celestial objects), and people assign sons and daughters to Him out of sheer ignorance. Glorified, Exalted is He, infinitely Above what they ascribe to Him. (His manifestations are abundant in the universe).

6:128 The day will come when He gathers all of them and says, “O you (gypsies, nomads, witch-doctors and shamans that spend their lives in wilderness/solitude and) who revealed themselves seldom (to city/village dwellers)! You have seduced many of the urban (with your superstitious beliefs and covert tactics).” Their urbanite copmpanions/friends will say, “Our Lord! We enjoyed each other’s company (the jinn in misleading and the ins in following, while both are mislead by their respective desires) until we wasted a life span You had given us." He will say, “Fire is your home. Abide therein forever according to Allah's Design." Verily, (O Messenger) your Lord is Wise, Knowing. (He has designed His Laws in all Wisdom and Knowledge).
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6:128 The day will come when He gathers all of them and says, “O you who remained hidden (in your objectives to those you mislead)! You have seduced many among mankind (with your superstitious beliefs and covert tactics).” Those among the people who supported them will say, “Our Lord! We enjoyed each other’s company until we wasted a life span You had given us." He will say, “Fire is your home. Abide therein forever according to Allah's Design." Verily, (O Messenger) your Lord is Wise, Knowing. (He has designed His Laws in all Wisdom and Knowledge).

18:50 Recall when We told the angels, "Bow yourselves before Adam!" They all bowed except Iblis (from BLS, hinting rebellious side of man). He was of the stealthy (selfish desires) that drifted away from his Lord's Command. Will you still befriend him and his comrades? What a miserable exchange do the wrongdoers make for the right guidance! (2:30-38).

Yet one more example of misinterpretation of the word Djinn is observed in traditional translations of verse 23:69. if we translate it as "there is a 'madness' in him", then the second part of the verse becomes disjoint and unnatural. The second part of the verse speaks of "truth"; it does not say that "the prophet is sane and not a madman".

Logically, the aspect of truth is negating something. Truth does not negate madness, but rather lies and deception. Let us conduct an experiment by changing the context of madness with the context of concealing or hiding:

23:68
أفلم يدبروا القول أم جاءهم ما لم يأت ءاباءهم الأولي
Do they not comprehend (My) Word? Is Revelation something that never came to their remote forefathers, (Noah, Abraham, Ishmael, and others)?

23:69
أم لم يعرفوا رسولهم فهم له منكرون
Or can (they) not distinguish their Messenger (from shamans and witch-doctors), that they deny (his call)? (Surely they recognize him, and can comprehend My Message, but are they too entrenched in arrogance to admit!)

23:70
أم يقولون به جنة بل جاءهم بالحق وأكثرهم للحق كرهون
Do they assert that in These (Verses) exists a concealed (deception)? No, (they do not: The exalted messenger) has come to them with (a Message of) Truth, but many among them find truth distasteful! [Notice that أم of 23:70 as stand-alone seems to point back to أفلم of 23:68, and the contextual composite of أم يقولون seems to point back to فهم له منكرون of 23:69. Also, به is pointing not to the messenger, but to the message itself! Hence, the context is "Can they claim that the exalted prophet is trying to deceive them" and not "Or do they say that there is a madness in him". Obviously, the implication in both instances is that he is not deceiving them, but the context changes completely!]

Another important aspect is to look at the root of the word Djin and evaluate the various words that have been derived from it. An important verse hence can be presented here, which is 6:76. It uses a dreivative of the root جن as Jann-a which translates to the verb "hide". Also, the Arabic form Falamma Janna 'Alaih-il Lail may be taken figuratively. It can either translate to "When all that (around him) was covered in darkness" or "When his (understanding of the marvels of the heavens and earth) was veiled by ignorance". Notice that marvels of heavens and earth have been mentioned in the preceding verse. Let's try to translate it this way then:

وكذلك نري إبرهيم ملكوت السموت والأرض وليكون من الموقنين
And it is such that We showed Abraham the kingdom of heavens and Earth, so that he would be of those who have certainty.

فلما جن عليه اليل رءا كوكبا قال هذا ربي فلما أفل قال لا أحب الءافلين
(And this is how We brought him to the light) When his (understanding of the universe) was veiled/covered by the darkness (of ignorance), he saw a planet, and said: "This is my Lord." But when it disappeared he said: "I do not adore those that fade away."

An interesting word that comes from the root جن is انجان which means "ignorant", or he/she who hides from knowledge/truth... another is مجنون which means he or she for whom reality is hidden. Hence, unless jinn refers not to a separate species, but to an attribute that makes that group different from the INS within the same species, and points to some inside force that is native to us, and to intangibles we falsely venerate, the jinn-being theory creates numerous contradictions in the Quran. This attribute clearly means that of being concealed or hidden.

I am reiterating that we must be pragmatic! The Quran is not a fairytale!

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You're missing half of the ayahs and ahadith....

your post don't make any sense.