Everything falling in place for Zardari/Musharaf partnership.

Mashallah. It appears, that once again baychara Nawaz Sharif has the rug pulled from underneath him.

In a masterstroke, with only few hours left before announcing the PM candidate, and the summoning of the new assemblies, Zardari has shown his true colors and chosen MQM as his partners. Something that no one could foresee, especially Nawaz Sharif. NS looked so despondent today.

Whilst everyone has been concentrating on the non-issues of the reinstatement of the judiciary, and the number games about how many votes one needs to oust great President Musharaf, the real political game has been played by Musharaf and Zardari.

With the calling of NWFP Assembly on 2nd April, Sindh Assembly on 5th April, Balochistan Assembly on 7th April, and the Punjab Assembly on 9th April, this gives more time for the twists and turns that we will see in the coming weeks.

Not all is as it seems. Don’t be surprised if PML (N) is not part of the coalition in the near future. They have once again been taken for a ride. It appears Zardari has learnt something from BB. :slight_smile:

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Our PM to be Yousaf Raza Gillani's son is due to marry Pir Pagara's Grand daughter next week. So this alliance building with pro-Musharraf's parties is growing at a personal as well political level.

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Hazaron khawheshain aisee kay hur khawhish pey dum niklay

The clutching at straws continues.

Wonder how the president who put him in jail because he refused to bow in front of him will now administer oath to a person convicted by his kangaroo courts. How the mighty fall.

Agay agay dekhee hota hai kiya. :D

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Daleel bhai. Ye sub Qiyamat ki Nishania hain. :)

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At the end of the day with the ushering in of democracy, Military is not going to have any influence on Pakistani politics from now on.

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EDITORIAL: The PPP-MQM reconciliation

Perhaps the greatest blessing that fell to the share of Pakistan on the day of the Birthday of the Prophet PBUH was the understanding reached between the PPP and the MQM. The significance of this coming together of the two big parties of Sindh will become clear with the passage of time. Mr Asif Ali Zardari, the architect of this new relationship, made it very clear why he wanted the MQM riding together with his party: he wanted urban and rural Sindh to live in peace, with mutual cooperation added, to save the national economy from being jeopardised by political disorder. The MQM has responded by instructing its senior politician Dr Farooq Sattar to stand down as the opposition’s agreed candidate for the post of the leader of the house in the National Assembly against the PPP’s nominee for PMship. The two parties were engaged in negotiations in Dubai following which the nominated PPP chief minister of Sindh Mr Qaim Ali Shah had taken a delegation of his partymen to the headquarters of the MQM in Karachi. Both parties conferred with their allies before taking the step. Mr Zardari did not move towards the MQM without “taking permission” from the leader of the party’s coalition partners — whom he called his “senior” partners — Mr Nawaz Sharif, Mr Asfandyar Wali and Maulana Fazlur Rehman. Similarly, Mr Altaf Hussain discussed the projected move with the leader of the PMLQ, Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain. The consent given by both sides of the political divide in the parliament has consequences which must be studied carefully. One easy reaction expressed over TV was that the development denoted the terminal phase of the isolation of President Pervez Musharraf. But there is almost a certain indication of a contrary development.

The MQM has been a consistent ally of the president over the past five years. Compared to the PMLQ, it was more in agreement with the liberal agenda of the president. Because of its control of urban Sindh it was a critical factor in maintaining a balance of “response” against the strong presence of the religious parties and seminaries in Karachi. If ever there were two parties with comparable political ideology, they were the MQM and the PPP. But the MQM aroused hostility among parties that are now committed to a coalition government in Islamabad. The ANP was greatly incensed at what it thought was violence of the MQM against its rank and file in June last year when the deposed chief justice of Pakistan Mr Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry tried to visit Karachi. The PMLN was likewise upset with the MQM because of Mr Nawaz Sharif’s contacts in the APDM and support to the lawyers’ movement. When Mr Zardari began to negotiate with him the possibility of a PPP-PMLN government at the centre, Mr Sharif actually made any agreement conditional to “keeping the MQM out”. One can only understand the latest development as a climb-down from his earlier position. The same can be said about the ANP. Does this mean that acceptance was given on the understanding that the entry of the MQM in the coalition would isolate President Musharraf and make him “leave the country”? It could be the other way around: a lower-profile president can be “lived with” as the strongest-ever-in-history coalition — which now looks like a national government — takes matters in hand. The MQM has not reneged on its support to the presidential position on the restoration of the deposed judges and is more inclined to support the PPP’s position on the independence of the judiciary than the PMLN’s position on the restoration of the judges. Those commentators who had condemned President Musharraf’s delay in convening the national and provincial assemblies should now realise that the latest grand reconciliation could not have taken place without the delay — a delay that could actually be “sympathetic” and not a “conspiracy in the presidency”.

Mr Zardari has stated that he is reaching out to the rejectionist camp too. He sent a delegation of his senior PPP politicians to meet Mr Imran Khan to condole the death of the latter’s father and to invite him to join hands with the PPP. This could only mean a persuasion to fight a by-election and become a member of parliament. A similar gesture to Mr Aitzaz Ahsan, president of the Supreme Court Bar Association, is expected to be made. The lawyers’ community has already asked Mr Ahsan to enter parliament through a by-election and break from the movement’s rejectionist posture. Tomorrow when the National Assembly convenes to vote in its leader, the new prime minister is likely to be a key politician from southern Punjab. This will soften a number of “unfriendly” politicians in Sindh and southern Punjab. Mr Zardari has shown remarkable statesmanship in putting together a national coalition that no one could dream of a month ago. *

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008\03\23\story_23-3-2008_pg3_1

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haha you guys and your pro-Mushy tilt.... think about this.
So Zardari makes a deal with MQM and Mush - 2 of the most hated forces in all of Punjab (PML-Q being the 3rd)
So let him make a deal, and watch the PPP fall into the same pit as Mushy and the PML-Q in the eyes of the Punjabi electorate

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it certainly is easier than administering oath to the guy who he had deposed in the coup d’état !

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[quote]
Mr Zardari has shown remarkable statesmanship in putting together a national coalition that no one could dream of a month ago.
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No doubt, Zardari had done excellent job bringing all major parties in to a some kind of agreement. Looks like he is fit for this job. He should continue this good work. Pakistan needs a strong political government to deal with the most crucial issue of jehadis/suicide bombers, politically.

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[quote=Reza Pahlavi;5729529 Those commentators who had condemned President Musharraf’s delay in convening the national and provincial assemblies should now realise that the latest grand reconciliation could not have taken place without the delay — a delay that could actually be “sympathetic” and not a “conspiracy in the presidency”. [/quote]

This is a very interesting and telling point.

With at least another 3 weeks before all the Provincial Assemblies are fully functional, this leaves more time for the twists and turns that no one predicted. :)

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Mashallah agreeing with one ownself could only be possible under the greatest leadership of the great president of Pakistan after Quaid-e-Azam, President Musharraf. :jhanda:This is what I call freedom of media, press and expression. Now you can practice your right of free speech to its full extent specially when zardari is partenering with Musharraf on horse trading found in his stable known as Mustaqil Qomi Museebat - the Silly Party :jhanda:

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Aalsi if anything Zardari knows how important PML (N)'s support is in any future coalition government. He should not forget that BB's two governments in 1988-1990 and 1993-1996 were too paralysed to do anything because they did not have the support of Punjab. So it's in Zardari's own interests k Mian Sahib se mila k rakhe. I am sure he would not want history to repeat itself

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GoldenAsif bhaijan. You are absolutely right. Zaradari is too intelligent to let history repeat itself. The nomination of Gilani as the PM candidate shows that. :)

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but you still need Punjab on your side where PML (N) is in majority and in a position to form a government without the support of PPP. So if PPP went alone at the centre, NS will more than likely do the same in Punjab and the rest we can all guess.....

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GoldenAsif Bhaijan. No need to worry.

PML (N), despite the rhetoric will not make the same mistakes as it did during BB's tenure. Things have moved on in Pakistan in the past 20 years. It is an era of compromises and NRO.

If Nawaz Sharif makes too much of hue and cry, and a new elections are called if the coalition at the centre is not workable, then PML (N) has a lot more to lose that PPP, as PPP has shown itself to be a true national party that wants to move on and govern for the betterment of Pakistan. Whereas people are now realising that PML (N) is there only for its personal agenda and is only full of rhetoric. So if the elections are held again, PPP will do much better in Punjab than it did on Feb 18. PML (N) knows this. :)

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I don't support any party in particular although I like PPP more than PML (N) because it is a more broad-minded party and has more educated people (however as we have seen before that does not always translate to good governance) in it. I am just looking at the larger picture. And I don't think that sidelining one party leader or the other is in the interests of the nation.

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GoldenAsif bhaijan. Once again you are right. PPP is indeed a more broad-minded party than PML (N). I also hope that on this occasion they will concentrate on the governance - all the indications so far have been that they will.

I don't think PPP want to sideline anyone. It will be PML (N) that will shoot itself in the foot if it shows no compromise and sticks to its agenda of revenge rather than governance and reconciliation as PPP is trying to do.

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When CJP Iftaykhar Ch. stood against the current President and former COAS, people said this is all part of the deal which CJP and MUSH had, so that they can fool the people and come out with some kind of mutual agreement.

Same is going here, MQM has offered their un-conditional support to PPP, and the masses know why MQM did it. Elements responsible for 12 May and likewise incidents had gone sleepless since the election results has declared, they need certain kind of protection which they can only get if they are in power.

Even MQM has realised that Mush is history, he can no longer protect and support MQM, so they switched to new power broker. Zardari intelligently picked then up, Isolating President Musharaf.

It will be in benefit of country and Zardari to have his very own president, who can please every one ( or atleast the majority) in the assembly. Zardari have worked remarkably well and nor him niether USA wants to get associated with any hate symbol. not at this point of time.

The only Looser in this whole scenario is Musharaf..

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^ Hanibal bhaijan. There are only winners, no losers. It is a win-win situation for everyone.

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It seems that many Pakistanis live in land of cukkoo dreaming wet ... But then it is always nice to see dreamers living happy in their dream sleeping in gutter and talk about palaces :)

How idiotic it is to believe that Zardari became powerful or Ganja got real power (even when both are not even eligible to contest election) or for that matter, an idiot that get elected can ever have more power than those who really command power in the country. We are talking about Pakistan where a policeman could not enter the house of a criminal who may have some link with establishment or Prime minister who cannot enter a building if establishment decides otherwise.

Reality is that, it is Pakistan where Chief Justice could be crook and could do injustice to others and illegally promote his own son and live on bribe using his office of doing justice (Judge's office). It is country where a government servant on Rs 20000 a month salary, in few years buys house worth Rs 100 million. It is country where one who has stick can close a road to have function on road. It is country where people only talk about vote when they got it but would say rigging when others get it.

It is country where if an Army General want, a crook Chief Justice can be dragged by his hair and can get kicked on his ass by a policeman and where if a major's son in army wants, he can drag someone from his house and give him a good beating because of kid's fight, while police would watch helplessly. It is a country where criminals and thugs like Benazir and Nawaz could become Prime Minister one day and could get thrown in jail next. It is a country where loyalty lies to those who command you and not to any laws. This is country where a policeman can break laws anytime for his officers and same is with army, who would even kill a prime minister if their superior tell them to do so, without asking question.

So, anyone who tries to BS that this is not the case and that army or even policeman would listen to a crook politician elected in office against the desire of those superior to them in their department, or that a military officer would listen or even care for these politicians, are just an idiot to me and would remain idiot however they try to say, whatever they believe and wish, and however much they get agitated.

But then for dreamers, they could not think as they have no brain, so they could not realise that when Ganja really had 2/3 majority in parliament, how easy it was for him not to get just massive kick but thrown into jail waiting to get hanged. Now this same Ganja who was pardoned from death by Musharraf, and same Zardari who was getting tortured in prison by Ganja men in police, got pardoned and released by President Musharraf, could do anything to Musharraf, and both got their freedom because of Musharraf. :)

Fact is that, Musharraf is a very soft person. If it was me, or someone who really know what to do to those who deserve good thrashing, there would have been no ganja thug brothers, no Karna crook Judge and no chota shahzada aur uss ka abba, no monkey lawyers and no crooked media, but all would have been as straight and as obedient paltu janwar.

It is easy for dreamers, many of them could be personal servants of thugs, to dream that people in Pakistan who really have some sticks with them would bow their head to these corrupts, corrupts who are themselves dictators in their party and have people who follow them follow like their personal servants, while these people who are employed to serve Pakistan should start serving these goons and corrupts.