Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
the bottom line is that this operation is letting non-virgin women appear virgins. and now guys have lost even their last resort of being able to guess if the girl was a virgin or not thru the bloody sheet. both parties must "trust" each other's word.
kinda like what happened to the rape situation with the availibility of DNA testing
kinda like what the day after pill did for sex.
kinda like what birth control meant for relationships and marriage.
i dont know about religion but for society in general this has impact.
will it make more girls go out and want to have sex since now they know they can sew their virginity back on? what does it mean for morals of society as a whole when you dont know what people will do had there been no "consequences" since the surgery completely eradicates any possibility of them.
Re: European Muslims seeking to ‘Restore’ Virginity
STOP consideriang america to be the only west!
in europe woman work with pants! and no skirts is thought to be the sexual objectisation of women and all feminists like me know it, reason why i DON’T wear skirt in europe:D
i don’t why feminists consider the sex life to be a revolution for girls, to me the real freedom for girls is the right to say NO to sex! as in most societies girls are forced to sex for a life…i think that a life where i can say NO to sex whenever i want is a luxury, and i’m very happy of it!
Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
maybe it is encouraged by stupid girls, but in EDUCATED cirlce, sorry girls wear same clothes than men: pant and shirt and jacket as a suit!
and go to any lab, most science ladies like sneakers, pants and sweaters...and no make up;)
Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
I think then, there are more stupid girls out there than the practicing educated ones. :D
I am feeling like as if I'm the western media and that I said something bad about hijaab and now Muslims are trying to justify ... ahh.. the feelings... :)
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Are we then to generalise that all Americans are rapists since it has the highest rape ratio in the world? Or are we to generalise that all Americans are as smart as you are?
Bad UTD, bad...
Again , I catch you mistating ,* highest rape ratio in the world in USA. Tsk, tsk .* you do have a propensity to state facts and facts you make up to support your arguments don't you. Don't you know an informed person can easily invalidate you statement? South Africa has the highest rape incidences per capita.
If you are somewhat familiar with the AIDs crisis and myths which have dominated South Africa in the last decade plus you will know rape is the highest per capita. If not aware of South Africa's crisis , I suggest you get informed.:) :) :) and you will easily discern the error of your statement.
Perhaps you could review Democratic Republic of Congo's appalling behaviour.
. But I suggest you get familiar with south africa firstly, it will hopefully give you knowledge to make credible statements in the future regarding rape per capita and will aid in developing debating skills..
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Perhaps you could review Democratic Republic of Congo , appalling behaviour
And many incidences reported in Somalia. But I suggest you get familiar with south africa , firstly, it will hopefully give you knowledge to make credible statements.
OK then All South Africans and all Congo citizens are Rapist.... back to square 1.... what was Lajawab trying to say now?
Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
i dont know about religion but for society in general this has impact.
will it make more girls go out and want to have sex since now they know they can sew their virginity back on? what does it mean for morals of society as a whole when you dont know what people will do had there been no "consequences" since the surgery completely eradicates any possibility of them.
blah, blah , blah, it's always about the guys, poor boys , bwah, bwah, bwah,
but perhaps it is , since demented parochially retarded guys are the ones who are harming the women they find are not virgins. well buddy grow up and blow up the plastic dolly so the 'pretend novice virgin' can't figure out how truly bad your horizontal dance steps are.
The salient issue is, how sick people are with their evil judgemental attitudes based on religious teachings to cause some women in this world great harm and even death and thusly , because of their fear the poor girls have resorted to restoration of hymen. I thank humanity and its medical community that there is perhaps more than one female life which has been saved because of HYMEN restoration.
and your attitude is one of many that causes such fear!!!!!!!
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Spiritual hymen, ??? wow, in all my years of womanhood if that is not an expression of a troglodyte well just sex me silly! hahahahahahahahahahaha,........... great effort in coming up with an insipid statement based on imaginative use of words to endorse your parochial parroting.
Just a last minute thought in support of your statement, --- When I go off to bed tonight and think about my spiritual hymen what should I do if the spiritual penis of George Clooney calls?
Re: European Muslims seeking to ‘Restore’ Virginity
When someone points with his finger to a cat and tells a 2 year old child to look, the only thing the child will look at is the finger…His mind as yet neither possesses the capacity to decipher the meaning of the outstretched arm pointing towards the cat nor to process its implications…
You can point to the stars, the moon, the dog, the car for the child the only thing he will pay attention to is the outstretched arm…
Simlies, analogies, simlitudes, homologies, metaphors and association by example require an intellect able to decipher its meaning…Otherwise, in the undeveloped mind it keeps reverberating as something literal and unnatural…
When someone says or writes, I think with my heart, he does not necessarily mean he thinks with his heart…But, it is enough to confuse the simple mind…I think with my heart, way to man’s heart is through the stomach, an army marches on its stomach, e.t.c. e.t.c. and many thousands of idioms that deal with analogous material…But that material is not for everyone especially the undeveloped mind or the mind that refuses to develop…
The term ‘spiritual hymen’ was understood by those with the capacity to communicate in complex and compound forms of communication with clarity and lucidity…
And if the spiritual penis of George Clooney comes a calling, I suggest you do as your heart wishes…For whatever you do, it wouldn’t matter a damn to someone who can’t grasp what is meant by ‘spiritual hymen’ here…
An no, I will not explain it to you…I’d rather point out a cute squirrel to a 2 year old…
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Just a last minute thought in support of your statement, --- When I go off to bed tonight and think about my spiritual hymen what should I do if the spiritual penis of George Clooney calls?
Yeah, I understand your delimma being a man and all...
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The salient issue is, how sick people are with their evil judgemental attitudes based on religious teachings to cause some women in this world great harm and even death and thusly , because of their fear the poor girls have resorted to restoration of hymen. I thank humanity and its medical community that there is perhaps more than one female life which has been saved because of HYMEN restoration.
and your attitude is one of many that causes such fear!!!!!!!
i dont blame u for the burst of paranoia up there but dont go nutso if u dont know what my views are and cannot understand the context behind my previous post. I agree completely with the views presented in the bolded part. My previous post was about what the sad REALITY is in society and how virginity is generally viewed. THIS IS NOT HOW I VIEW IT. please read it again and get back if u have any issues.
Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
You can point to the stars, the moon, the dog, the car for the child the only thing he will pay attention to is the outstretched arm...
Simlies, analogies, simlitudes, homologies, metaphors and association by example require an intellect able to decipher its meaning...Otherwise, in the undeveloped mind it keeps reverberating as something literal and unnatural...
When someone says or writes, I think with my heart, he does not necessarily mean he thinks with his heart...But, it is enough to confuse the simple mind...I think with my heart, way to man's heart is through the stomach, an army marches on its stomach, e.t.c. e.t.c. and many thousands of idioms that deal with analogous material...But that material is not for everyone especially the undeveloped mind or the mind that refuses to develop...
The term 'spiritual hymen' was understood by those with the capacity to communicate in complex and compound forms of communication with clarity and lucidity...
And if the spiritual penis of George Clooney comes a calling, I suggest you do as your heart wishes...For whatever you do, it wouldn't matter a damn to someone who can't grasp what is meant by 'spiritual hymen' here...
An no, I will not explain it to you...I'd rather point out a cute squirrel to a 2 year old...
nice point lajjawab...but i pity you for resorting to name calling uberalles case she is sensitive (too much) about women sexual exploitation.
and truly lajjawab, who do you want to fool with such hypocritical metaphor like "spiritual hymen"? if virginity was understood as a "spiritual" concept for people, it would be asked from BOTH men and women!! do people expect boys to stay virgin? no, and nobody ask them :if they are, as a result boys are allowed to move out freely while girls are confined in homes...
furthermore honeslty, white sheets on dislpay after wedding night...is that 'spiritual hymen"???
let's get real please, i know u and AQ defend very high moral standards on a very theoric way, but practical life is very different....because the kind of underminds you have spoken about are VERY common in real life!
it's easy to defend theoretical concepts like spiritual hymen, but the reality for common people with simple minds is far more diffficult to handle!
with all their flaws common people exploit islamic rules to degrade women, while the initial purpose of those laws was to protect women....
if you are too blind to realise the practical use that many screwed minds are doing with noble rules, and turning them into opprssive ways to degrade women t sexual toys....
it explains why you can't understand why uberalles is angry!
Re: European Muslims seeking to 'Restore' Virginity
I can see all your arguments are based on some reading... In my whole life back in that culture, I never heard of this sheet display thing rather any hint of such was considered taboo... A culture where speaking about pregnancy is a taboo, I wondered what's the hype of displaying sheet etc.. until I took an anthropology class in which it turned out to be a hindu practice in uneducated village areas...
STOP consideriang america to be the only west!
??? please, please, please.
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