Re: Esteemed Ulamah strike in defense of persecution!
dupe
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Its is known as a “Joker Card” usually thrown into the works to derail or disfigure a Topic or View Point
Up here I can see several “Joker Cards” in play, such as ‘Beards’ ‘Qadianis’ ‘Saudi Arabia’ etc etc,
Only ligit matter that is missing from above ^ is the one of “Allah:subhanahu: & his Deen” , How Sad!
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^So you mean, OP used this 'Joker Card' for a purpose, repeatedly ?
To derail his/her own thread or just shown the hatred and nothing but hatred by using beard as a generalized symbol against those who he/she hates?
People who like to talk about an issue for others to focus, do not mix issues themselves.
My question remains: What is this got to do with beard?
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2nd amendment is the best piece of legislation ever safeguarding Quaid e Azam's Shariah compliant Pakistan and its ideological foundation and lol @ of those who are pissed at it,maybe reading two nation theory might help rather than getting mad.
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and i endorse all these mullah sahibans who are out on the road for this noble cause.
Why do you think there is need for these laws in 97% muslim country when even Saudi Arabia doesn't have such laws?
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Why do you think there is need for these laws in 97% muslim country when even Saudi Arabia doesn't have such laws?
KSA does not have such law?
Re: Esteemed Ulamah strike in defense of persecution!
Why do you think there is need for these laws in 97% muslim country when even Saudi Arabia doesn't have such laws?
lol who told u saudia dosent has laws safeguarding muslim sentiments??
you dont have a problem with law safeguarding holocaust lie by making its denial a crime do u?
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^ That law is in effect in only some european countries like austria and germany I think. Hate as they may, but american jews couldn't stop a KKK march from marching through a jewish majority town.
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What's this has to do with beard?
lol... I made a comment about beards that apparently offended certain people on this forum and resulted in a warning that I should respect the beard and everyone that it attaches to...
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lol who told u saudia dosent has laws safeguarding muslim sentiments??
you dont have a problem with law safeguarding holocaust lie by making its denial a crime do u?
You dont say how you are going to keep this law from being used to terrorize people? These fanatics dont even want the law to be amended so as to minimize its misuse.
Re: Esteemed Ulamah strike in defense of persecution!
^So you mean, OP used this 'Joker Card' for a purpose, repeatedly ?
To derail his/her own thread or just shown the hatred and nothing but hatred by using beard as a generalized symbol against those who he/she hates?
People who like to talk about an issue for others to focus, do not mix issues themselves.
My question remains: What is this got to do with beard?
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This is my exact point !
On GS one cannot open a thread purely based on "Beards" or "Qadianis" (We had such threads in the past on GS with "explosive results" and not recommended for repetitions.
Hence, it is not strange to see such 'twisters' embedded in threads intentionally or unintentionally. Browser-Beware ! :D
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punishment of blashmey un Islam is death first thing and second thing is Islam has nothing to do with secularism
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punishment of blashmey un Islam is death first thing and second thing is Islam has nothing to do with secularism
Exactly... Secular govt and Islam are two different things. Another words, lets separate Islam and govt. Islam in your hearts and secular govt in your capitals.
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Yes but Islam is a very political faith and was the basis of many a social revolution.... so you cannot seperate Islam from Politics.
Speaking of Politics i'm not in favour of any one form over another... for example Democracy in it's purest form is superb but democracy by representation is a complete fad in most cases...
Likewise dictatorship can be both good and bad, remember the Romans used to elect thier dictators and it was a fine system for a while until Ceasar decided to be dictator for life and like Napoleon made himself an Emperor by default.
Even divine kingship can work merits particulalry when it's done via selection based on merit but again Dynasties start to flourish and grow as well as weaken over time...
We all need to broaden our views a bit I think....
Secularism itself is not a bad thing, but in Islam we have a faith thats highly political and does not really favour all that secularism has to offer... for all that gliters is not gold.
Re: Esteemed Ulamah strike in defense of persecution!
-----------------------------cvabn---------------------------- This is my exact point !
On GS one cannot open a thread purely based on "Beards" or "Qadianis" (We had such threads in the past on GS with "explosive results" and not recommended for repetitions. Hence, it is not strange to see such 'twisters' embedded in threads intentionally or unintentionally. Browser-Beware ! :D
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See, reading posts after posts, the emphasis was on beard and its description...
OP is least interested in the law and more interested in showing hatred. :(
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Great! ^ You got it now ,!
You win the prize ‘Water Cooler’ 
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Yes but Islam is a very political faith and was the basis of many a social revolution.... so you cannot seperate Islam from Politics.
Speaking of Politics i'm not in favour of any one form over another... for example Democracy in it's purest form is superb but democracy by representation is a complete fad in most cases...
Likewise dictatorship can be both good and bad, remember the Romans used to elect thier dictators and it was a fine system for a while until Ceasar decided to be dictator for life and like Napoleon made himself an Emperor by default.
Even divine kingship can work merits particulalry when it's done via selection based on merit but again Dynasties start to flourish and grow as well as weaken over time...
We all need to broaden our views a bit I think....
Secularism itself is not a bad thing, but in Islam we have a faith thats highly political and does not really favour all that secularism has to offer... for all that gliters is not gold.
Thats not true. Islam ofcourse has many injunctions and rules, but all of those can be practiced in non Muslim secular countries aswell, without ever invoking Islam. Good ideas find their way across cultures. What in the Western system of jurisprudence for example is contradictory to Islam?
Bottom line is, call your govt what you will, but all govts have a purpose. The govt must defend the nation, feed and educate the people, provide for their health and well being, and at the very least facilitate their economic and social well being. Now why must a nation call itself an Islamic republic to do those things?
Seems the secular countries are doing all these things just fine without calling themselves Muslim.
Pakistan which insists on this hollow title of "Islamic" Republic would do just as well without it.
By the way, the Roman empire collapsed due to the incompetence of the Roman system. Dictatorship may work for a little while, but it fails because it doesnt creat institutions to carry on ruling after the dictator is deposed or killed.
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Med Only prayers and fasting doesnt make Islam complete in by livin in countries of kafirs you cant completely follow Islam because Islam has the whole goverment and ecnomic and social system with it secualarism is opposite to ISlam
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Med in Islam either you are muslim or secular if you secular than you are a traitor read Islam first
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Islam is not just about namaz roza and zakat its duty of muslims to establish Islam in the world thats a farz
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MEd Islam tells how to run goverment what laws to make and what no Secularism is kufr of a new kind so secular person is basically declaring itself kafir