Enraged Vajpayee tears up NAM script to lash Musharraf

Agra, Kathmandu and now at Kuala Lumpur, our skilful and masterful President Musharraf leaves week knees Vajpayee fuming, and making a show of himself in front of the world. He must still be smarting over that “decisive battle”…:slight_smile:

Enraged Vajpayee tears up NAM script to lash Musharraf

KUALA LUMPUR: Indian Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee tore up his prepared speech to the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) Monday to launch an attack on Pakistan, condemning President Pervez Musharraf for bringing up the Kashmir issue in the conference, said a report. Vajpayee finished reading his address to the 116-nation forum but instead of stepping down from the rostrum, went into a diatribe against President Musharraf. Musharraf had used his slot shortly before the Indian leader to urge the forum to back just struggle of peoples against illegal occupation.

from the daily junk newspaper - as usual, not news, just sheer paindoo pandering. :)

anyway, good to see vajpayee kick mushy ref's butt once again at a gathering.

Queer Ji, kia haal chaal hain aap kai. :slight_smile:

Yaar Vajpayee has difficulty lifting his leg to pee against a lamp post, let alone lift his leg to kick anyone :hehe:

Considering the leash that uncle sam has mushy on, I wouldn’t be so quick to Vajoo’s canine qualities. :hehe:

Re: Enraged Vajpayee tears up NAM script to lash Musharraf

Did Mr. Skilful and Masterful :hehe: speak anything on the NAM Agenda ?? :rotfl:

Since we got pakistani Point of view from Jang.Lets see what times of india says.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/html/uncomp/articleshow?artid=38498653
KUALA LUMPUR: India and Pakistan on Monday came out more sharply against each other than than they have in the last three decades. This was after Gen Pervez Musharraf raised the Kashmir issue twice during his speech at the 13th NAM summit and offered to host a “conflict resolution mechanism” under the aegis of NAM.

Taking the floor shortly after Musharraf’s speech, Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee ridiculed the reference to Kashmir. He first finished his speech to the forum and then read out four paragraphs that were circulated separately.

Vajpayee asked Pakistan to ponder over the fact that the “oppressed people of Kashmir” had actually been victims of terrorist violence and had voted in “an election that had been universally recognised as free and fair”, defying “bullets of terrorists, aided and abetted by Pakistan”. It was a staccato speech.

While the reference to Kashmir was on expected lines, India was miffed at Musharraf’s proposal for a conflict resolution mechanism — that an official described as “the cheek” — which had been considered at the official and ministerial levels, but for which New Delhi says there have been no takers.

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As a result of this spat, any prospect of an early dialogue was angrily ruled out by both sides. While Musharraf said he was “least interested” in a dialogue if India did not want it, * (Now dont go to intrenational community like a crybaby and say everone that India is not talking) *external affairs minister Yashwant Sinha sarcastically thanked him for it, saying: “Bahut bahut shukriya (Thanks a lot).” :rotfl: :rotfl: **

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Foreign secretary Kapil Sibal countered the talk of a handshake with a scathing query: “Shake hands with a terrorist?” He added for good measure: “There is a Pakistani footprint on every act of terrorism.” **
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Taking exception to the raising of the Kashmir issue, albeit not for the first time, India held that this was meant to vitiate the NAM ethos. Yashwant Sinha said conflict resolution was not part of the NAM charter, just as groupings like ASEAN or OIC did not cater to this. On Musharraf’s references to “oppression” in Kashmir during his 10-minute address, linking it with Palestine and Rwanda,** Sibal said the reference was “short on wisdom, and long on venom”.** :wink:

Sinha said Musharraf ought not to talk of a dialogue since “jab bhi Bharat ki baat aati hai to unke moonh se gaali nikalti hai (whenever there is talk of India, he turns abusive)”. Sibal summed up by saying: “In history as in mythology, the vicious have become virtuous. If he (Musharraf) has a change of heart, and he is ready to atone for his sins (of sabotaging the Lahore Process and staging Kargil), he can not only shake hands but also have a dialogue with the Prime Minister.”

Earlier, even as Pakistani diplomats termed the Indian reaction “childish”, Vajpayee, on way to a meeting with Iranian president Seyyed Mohammed Khatami, ruled out any dialogue with Pakistan, saying: “Koi surat nahin dikhai deti (It seems impossible).”

Vajpayee also did not react to a Pak TV correspondent’s provocative question why he had “turned his face away from peace and dialogue”.

Cornered by the media on the sidelines of the summit about a dialogue with India, Musharraf said he “cannot clap with one hand…My hand is there. But I am tired of this…If they are not interested, I am least interested”.

He justified his references to Kashmir, arguing it was “an important issue”.

On his part, Sinha said Musharraf ought not to talk of a dialogue since “jab bhi Bharat ki baat aati hai to unke moonh se gaali nikalti hai (whenever there is talk of India, he turns abusive)”.

By raising the Kashmir issue again, Pakistan had done “nothing new”. Since 1947, Pakistan had been infiltrating outsiders and then talking of self-determination. Why not have self-determination in Pakistan-occupied Kashmir?" he asked.

Sibal summed up the Indian mood by saying: “In history as in mythology, vicious have become virtuous. If he (Musharraf) has a change of heart, and he is ready to atone for his sins (of sabotaging the Lahore Process and staging Kargil), he can not only shake hands but also have a dialogue with the Prime Minister.”

Oh puhleez.. Vegie need to get a life

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He first finished his speech to the forum and then read out four paragraphs that were circulated separately.
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Just as the original Jang story intimated. Vajpayee was once again forced to change his speech at the last minute, and at an international fora to address the Kashmir issue and Pakistan. No wonder he was scared to attend NAM in the first place. :)

P.S. Did anyone tell the puppet PM that Advani long ago admitted the elections in occupied Kashmir had been rigged by all the previous governments?

why pakistan insists to talk about kashmir with india either you take it by force or accept loc . you have no other choice.

Freedom Fighters bleeding India with a thousand cuts seem to be the other option (this appears to be working). If India wants to stop this, then it better start its ‘Decisive Battle’ against these freedom fighters :hehe:

Oops I forgot, India only fights against and burns thousands of UNARMED Muslims, sending over a hundred thousand to the refugee camps, and violating the womb of Muslim women, ripping their unborn babies apart.

Good Ol’ whining Indians :slight_smile:

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why pakistan insists to talk about kashmir with india either you take it by force or accept loc . you have no other choice.
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If that was the case then India would not continue to have to reply to Pakistan on Kashmir, at every international fora. It's to the credit of President Musharraf that he has put Kashmir firmly on the international agenda, no wonder we have theIndian government running around begging for international "condemnations" of Pakistan. If Kashmir is an "internal" affair of India's then you would not have had to invite President Musharraf to Agra :) or have to speak to other countries about the issue at all.

mallik the talks is not about handing over land for peace.
make it simple it is pakistan objective to grab it from indian hands
and indians have to prevent it. pakistan should be happy what they
already have. pakistan's jugular vein in kashmir and indians want to keep it and your nukes cant get it.

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mallik the talks is not about handing over land for peace....
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For Pakistan it is not about land, but about the right of the Kashmiri people to decide under whose sovereignty that land should be under. Pakistan will continue to push for India to live up it's promise, and let the Kashmiri people decide their destiny.

As it is India keeps on bleeting on about how Kashmir is an "intergral" part and an "internal" affair of India's. If that is the case then it would not have to talk to Pakistan at all the matter, let alone invite it's President to Agra :). It would not have to speak on the issue of Kashmir at every international fora when Pakistan brings it up, but it does. Just as importantly it would not have to ask foreign powers to "condemn" Pakistan over this issue, because not only is it making it an international issue it is bringing more and more foreign attention the Kashmir cause.

we always help pakistan divert its people attention by keeping
kashmir problem alive and pakistan wont kill the golden goose
that lays eggs for miltary gverment:)

:hehe: An Indian who admits to keeping the Kashmir problem alive and an international issue.

well kashmir is the only thing and only glue that holds pakistan toghether

At every important intenational fora, India refuses to talk to Pakistan over Kashmir. Absolutely true…It is funny when the Kashmiri round table happens in NYC, Pakistanis send their High Commissioner, UN rep, All Party Terrorist COuncil sends their lackeys and India doesn’t send anyone. :hehe:

While these two delegations are doing the circle jerk all the Indian journalists are laughing because Indian representation comes int he form of People like Sumit Ganguly and someone from pressler’s office. WHo makes these guys look like chumps. :hehe:

It is a sight to see. If you are ever in NY during UN high season in september, come see this. The Paki commissioner starts sweating profusely through his shirt and strats screaming. hahahahah…Hee Haw!!! I go every year to see that…too funny!!!

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well kashmir is the only thing and only glue that holds pakistan toghether
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This is coming from a country that has 700,000 plus troops in occupied Kashmir trying to forceably hold onto the 44% of Kashmir ir controls, lest it leads to the wider disintegration of India. Even Indian's admit that if they let Kashmir be free it would lead to a precedent for others to follow - so holding Kashmir by brute force is the only thing (as yet) holding India together.

You mean His International agenda :hehe: 50 saal se abhi tak International agenda hi hai - koi action bhi hua hai :rotfl: .

PS :- Are you telling us here that all the leaders before him didn’t put Kashmir ‘FIRMLY’ on their International agenda.

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This is coming from a country that has 700,000 plus troops in occupied Kashmir trying to forceably hold onto the 44% of Kashmir ir controls, lest it leads to the wider disintegration of India. Even Indian's admit that if they let Kashmir be free it would lead to a precedent for others to follow - so holding Kashmir by brute force is the only thing (as yet) holding India together.
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Many areas of India do not recognise Central Government's lawas and rules anyway. With some areas virtually a no go for the Indian army. Then they hold fake elections just to please Washington. India is basically a virtual country based on fanatical religious laws.