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im interested in hearing from posters like reza pehlavi, king_faisal etc, who're selling the terrorism angle. once again the question is, do you think the emergency would have been enforced if the Supreme Court was not deciding Musharraf's presidency?
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this is what my family has done. my sister is overseas as a student, and its unlikely she will return to pak for a prolonged stay. i myself am older and have left in fear of jehadi types. although i will go back if musharraf can crush the radicals.
taleban rule is human rights disaster. i would rather live under a secular tyrant then islamic law.
i went back to pak after my completing undergrad in the mid 90's and few years later, windows in my office in karachi were destroyed by a suicide bomber. same thing happened to my sister's office. and i drove on shara-e-faisal 24 hours before karsaz bombing. its army's job is to provide security to us and once we have security, i will start worrying about free judiciary.
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the reality being that fear of islamic dictatorship is making any one from a moderate origin uneasy. i have not surrendered my citizenship, if the mullahs are crushed into dust, i will happily take the jet back to pakistan. i am born and raised there, i am loving that land-but cannot stand for islamist takeover, which is approaching reality. this is last chance for pakistan to progress as a modern nation.
I still dont believe the very cause of going abroad is coz of minority being religious extremists. Then you must have left the country as soon as Bhutto was hanged and thats a very long time ago. More over I agree with all the opposing leaders, that a Dictatorship is responsible for these parasites to freely grow as was the case in Zia's times.
That you should know perfectly well.
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if not for fear of militancy, why would i leave a nation where my family is well established, successful and life is easy for me?
the conservative nature of that society is not conducive to my outlook, nor of my friends. it is only getting worse.
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the whole missing persons case driven by the cj is about jehadis. missing person campaign is driven by jehadi leaders. the jehadis dont get convicted by courts because jehadis organisations either threaten violence or buy off judges. only a couple of weeks back, akram lahori, one of the most notorious sectarian killers was released by sind high court.
as i said earlier, if bombs suicide bombers were going off in d.c. every week, there would be emergency in the u.s.
Yes, as soon as as those so-called "missing persons" were released on the orders of ex-CJ Inftikhar there was a massive upsurge in suicide bombings. Now we know the government was perfectly justified in holding those people in the first place, and they should re-arrest tose people immediately.
Re: EMERGENCY IMPOSED IN PAKISTAN
im interested in hearing from posters like reza pehlavi, king_faisal etc, who're selling the terrorism angle. once again the question is, do you think the emergency would have been enforced if the Supreme Court was not deciding Musharraf's presidency?
actually, few weeks back, supreme court had ruled in favour of musharraf in the qazi hussain/imran khan case. problem is that supreme court judges wanted the spot light so they hauled the govt back on the same issue in the justice wajihuddin case. this is at a time when govt is battling terrorist in islamabad and when the chief of army should have his full attention on dealing with jehadis.
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there was no real threat of religious extremism in pakistan until 2001 when mushy had his balls squeezed by the USA. everything was hunky dory for everyone whether in pak or overseas. our government was actively supporting and sponsoring terrorists in afghanistan to kill civilians there. so now to blame extremists for all your problems is simply lame and pathetic. thats the excuse of the mushy supporters to support his policies to indiscriminately butcher defenseless innocent civilians all over pakistan. that makes them equally responsible for the killings of innocent civilians.
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government should enact laws to stop preaching of sermons by all but state sanctioned imams, and regulate teaching according to decency.
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there was no real threat of religious extremism in pakistan until 2001 when mushy had his balls squeezed by the USA. everything was hunky dory for everyone whether in pak or overseas. our government was actively supporting and sponsoring terrorists in afghanistan to kill civilians there. so now to blame extremists for all your problems is simply lame and pathetic. thats the excuse of the mushy supporters to support his policies to indiscriminately butcher defenseless innocent civilians all over pakistan. that makes them equally responsible for the killings of innocent civilians.
why would a civilian support any policy which had as its objective the death of other civilians. your post is senseless. we support order, be that at the barrel of a gun. so long as islamism is checked and progressive social legislation supported, i will stand by president musharraf's decision.
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Truly shocking that the judges were releasing sectarian murderers as well! All the more reason to declare Emergency and bring this intolerable judicial irresponsibility under control.
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and the proof of their involvement (if any) is conveniently hidden under your pillow rite? :halo: 
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Some reactions :
US "deeply disturbed" by Musharaff moves Britain "gravely concerned" at Pakistan events Sweden "very worried" by emergency in Pakistan India "deeply regrets" the situation in Pakistan
Haha, no condemnations, just soft diplomatic statements.
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if not for fear of militancy, why would i leave a nation where my family is well established, successful and life is easy for me?
the conservative nature of that society is not conducive to my outlook, nor of my friends. it is only getting worse.
The authenticity of this report I can not proof, but one thing I know. Musharraf's Government will only make this worse and not better and Martial Laws are not the right solution for such problems and Musharrafs one words where:" We need to negotiate with them (the Taliban)" so this is also in contradiction to his STATE of EMERGENCY to fight Terrorists or Terrorism.
Dont you think he is just fooling you?
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from a realistic perspective, only the statements from washington hold any value. the other nations are utterly irrelevant to pakistan's internal politics.
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maybe they are released bcoz there was not enough evidence to prosecute them to begin with? as for ATC, they were as useless as anti-corruption courts which were soooo hardly and sincerely perusing BB to prosecute her on charges of corruption. we all know where BB is now and where ACC stance is on the issue of charges against her. so next time come up with a better example to glorify mushy’s actions. 
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The authenticity of this report I can not proof, but one thing I know. Musharraf's Government will only make this worse and not better and Martial Laws are not the right solution for such problems and Musharrafs one words where:" We need to negotiate with them (the Taliban)" so this is also in contradiction to his STATE of EMERGENCY to fight Terrorists or Terrorism. Dont you think he is just fooling you?
perhaps you dont grasp it. who so ever can crush islamic forces in pakistan has my total support. military man or elected leader, we are tired of seeing parts of our nation succumb to radicalism.
maybe you have never lived there. with the scourge of islamic rule hanging over your head?
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If he uses this rule to crush talebanization, I am for it.
Yep, the same Taleban that BB and her PPP government created in the 1990's now needs to elimnated from the face of the earth.
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As much as I admire Musharaff for his raw fauzi, no-spin, non-politician like speeches…this segment of his speech today where he was pleading the West for understanding was quite uncalled for :
This should hurt the self-esteem and pride of Pakistan as a nation.
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perhaps you dont grasp it. who so ever can crush islamic forces in pakistan has my total support. military man or elected leader, we are tired of seeing parts of our nation succumb to radicalism.
maybe you have never lived there. with the scourge of islamic rule hanging over your head?
How can you expect the man who used them to further his own political ambitions to crush them. He even said in his speech that Pakistan was made a laughing stock when lal masjid thing happened in the capital. He than said how could this happen. Someone should have told him it happened on his watch and due to his incompetence and his selfishness to use the issue to further strengthen his kursi. Anyother leader who had any conscious and shame would have accepted his failure and resigned, not him.
He claims to fight terrorism yet Fazlullah's radio station in Swat operates freely spewing hatred against the stare and army. Incompetence of the current administration at its best.
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Finally, Musharraf what I was hoping that he do...
Declaring a State of Emergency for atleast 6 months to get rid of these terrorist scum from our border areas
Yep now the real fight to destroy extremists has begun, without any interference from our irresponsible judges.