Eid Milad

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As we all aware that many of us celebrate this day and many others are not. Also we discussed this topic many many time here on GS. However, I would like to put forward a question and I hope you guyz will answer according to my question and nothing more than that. This is because we including other should be able to understand. So here is the question.
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1- When was the ‘eid milad’ celebrated first time ever? Who and when it was started? **Plz answer your question with references, if any, and again plz answer as per the question not more than that.

:jazak:

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Why are you trying to incite the Barailviees???

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doesn't matter...the practice is purely bid'a...period!

kulla Bid'atin zalaalah, wa kulla zalaalatin fin-naar"

Al-Hadith (Sahih Muslim).

Translation of the above hadith: Every innovation is a misguidance and every misguidance leads to Hell fire.

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I found this:

Nobody knows exactly when the first celebration of the Prophet’s birthday was celebrated or marked as a holiday. Noted in history that the celebration was found during the reign of Wazir al-Afdlal (487-515 AH/1095-1121 CE) of the Fatimite regime in Egypt. The celebration was held during the day time and attended by government officials and Muslim spiritual leaders in town. The Fatimite amir as a head of state sat in the balcony of the palace and three speakers in sequence delivered their Mawlid speeches. They talked about Muhammad’s origin, his birthday and his life. Celebration was not only for the Prophet’s birthday but also the birthday of Ali (the Prophet’s cousin), Fatimah (his daughter) and the Amir as the present imam of Shi’ite Muslim. The influence of the Shi’ite doctrine of the celebration of the Prophet’s birthday was very clear and is still eminence in modern Egypt even today. Foreign tourists who visited Cairo several times or anybody who ever stayed there for a long period will note that Husain’s birthday (the Prophet’s grandson) was celebrated more thoroughly and illimuniously than the Prophet’s birthday, in the meantime the majority of Muslims in Egypt today adhere to Ahlu as-Sunnah’s Islam.

Ibnu Khalikan’s historical report says that Ahly as-Sunnah version of the Prophet’s birthday celebration was introduced in Egypt by Al-Malik Muzaffar Ad-Din Kukburi in 604 AH/1207 CE. Kukburi was brother of Salahuddin al-Ayyubi (Saladin). These were the days of Crusade where almost 200 years waves after waves of crusaders from Europe came to the heart of the Muslim world in the Middle East to fight Muslims in their own countries.

Prophets – Muhammad: Prophet Muhammad’s Birthday Celebration

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Is the date of birth of the Prophet SW confirmed at 12 Rabiul Awal?I heard that there is dispute over his date of birth.......however his death is confirmed on 12 Rabiul Awal.....is that true?

Is not that sad that knowing that date is a confirmed death date and an unconfirmed birth date, we actually celebrate his death anniversary.

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If you make such assertions…you are gustakhe rasool :snooty:

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Peace TLK

Nobody celebrates the death of RasoolAllah (SAW) ... But they celebrate his (SAW)'s life on the day he (SAW) passed away ... And which is the day he (SAW) might have been born ... Focusing on the date is the error ... It is just a chosen date for remembering our leader and spiritual father ... and this date issue is a distraction from the act itself ... Those people who love RasoolAllah (SAW) should not be condemned from remembering his life - the date is not important.

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People who say that are wrong too … TLK has a valid point … But it is misplaced because those who celebrate it themselves cannot answer the question properly … They often think that it is a birthday … And they treat it like that … It is really a Remembrance Day … and it is chosen so people can arrange to remember him (SAW) together and increase the impact.

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But the same people also do not believe that he ''died'' right? So for them the ''death'' date doesn't make sense...thats why they celebrate it................. kya khyaal hai??

You are just being polite here bro. In Pakistan, we celebrate. We put decoration lights all over the city. No one uses laal haree peeli battiyan on someone’s death day, even if he is celebrating the life.

Just to remind ourselves that the companions of prophet, who were the best of the best group according to Quran, never considered the day of prophet's birth or death as a a day to remember.

On the fourth year of Umar's rule, Muslims felt the need of Islamic calendar. They discussed the start date of that calendar.

'Someone suggested that the era should begin from the date of birth of Prophet Muhammad. Some suggested that it should begin from the death of Prophet Muhammad. Ali suggested that it should begin from the date on which the Muslims migrated from Mecca to Madina. After discussion, Ali's suggestion was agreed to.'

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I celebrate it. Go ahead and judge me!

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My point is that one may bring up so many reasons for not doing something ... Focusing on the love of RasoolAllah (SAW) is an important factor for modern day Muslims, but there are pressures that people bring to prevent this love from manifesting.

There are many things that the Sahabah (RA) did not do ... Such as they did not classify Hadith into collections ... Ilm-ul-rijaal was not done, 'aqeedah was not encoded by them either ... But they recognised RasoolAllah (SAW) for who he was ... On the battlefield they would jump up to intercept the arrows on their own chests with smiles on their faces in order to protect the Messenger of Allah (SAW) ... He is the vessel through which the holy Qur'an was revealed to us ... And for many people they had only sight of him (SAW) ... And his word was enough to believe in Allah (SWT) ... Mawlid is an innovation ... It is designed to bring a strong love in to the hearts of people who are distanced from RasoolAllah (SAW) with space and time ... We can bring ourselves in a proximity to him (SAW) by remembering him ... And this is what it is about. Although the practice is new ... It is to reproduce the Sunnah of the Sahabah ... That is of intense love of the Last and most important prophet of God ... (SAW) ... Why would anyone want to condemn people for seeking that out?

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could someone elaborate how do you celebrate birthday of the holy prophet (pbuh)? In Jammat-e-Ahmadiyya, we hold 'Seerat-un-nabi' jalsas, where different aspects of his(pbuh) seerah are elaborated and naats are recited etc. The main difference is that we don't fix a particular day to celebrate rehmat-al-lilaalameen.

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This is similar to the ways I have seen it done.

Sometimes it is connected to a dzikr gathering and at the end they do a salat-u-salam.

The format is this:

Optional: Start with Dzikr
Recitation of Hadith on description of RasoolAllah (SAW)
Points of Sirah that elaborate on him (SAW) as a person
Reading of Barzanji Sharif
Naats and Nasheeds
Optional: Salat-o-Salam

These are done on Mondays, Thursdays throughout the year … up to five or six times and on 12 Rabi’ul Awal if possible. I guess the Ahmadi tradition of it came from Sunnis anyway …

Here is some more information about mawlid and including the mawlid:

The Celebration of Mawlid in Light of the Shafi

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I see. It's that time of the year again?

Bring out the bidah brigade.

Wonderful indeed.

Brother psyah, I love your innocence. All these that you mentioned do happen, but on a major scale, this is what happens.

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What Do People Do?

Milad-un-Nabi observances differ among people following different schools of Islamic Jurisprudence (Fiqh). Some scholars forbid celebrations and even challenge the holiday’s legality in light of Sharia (Islamic law). Many Muslims do not believe in celebrating birthdays or anniversaries as there is no evidence from Prophet Mohammad’s life of such observances. On the other hand, many Islamic scholars believe that this day should be celebrated festively. There is a considerable number of Muslims that observe this day with utmost religious fervor.
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The day starts off with an official 31-gun salute at the federal capital and a 21-gun salute in provincial headquarters. The national flag is hoisted on all major public buildings, governmental, non-governmental facilities, mosques and even households are tastefully decorated and colorfully illuminated at night.**

Seerat conferences are organized at both federal and provincial levels where religious scholars and intellectuals come and shed light on the Prophet Muhammed’s life, sayings, teachings and philosophies. Naat (poetry written in praise of the Prophet) and Koran recitation competitions are also held where prizes are distributed among people who perform outstandingly in the above stated disciplines.

Many people also donate to charity. Food and sweets are distributed among the poor and the needy. Moreover, contributions are made to support orphanages, asylums for the physically and mentally challenged, and widows.

Special prayers are offered at mosques. Religious leaders and scholars preach the Prophet Muhammed’s teachings. Stories and incidents from his life of morals, such as forgiveness, kindheartedness, bravery, wisdom, honesty, and peace lovingness, are quoted.
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Milad-un-Nabi congregations, rallies and processions also take place in major cities across Pakistan. These processions usually start from a central location (central mosques or locations of public prominence), pass through designated routes, and end at the starting point**.
Public Life
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Eid Milad-un-Nabi is a public holiday in Pakistan. All government and semi government offices, and most private offices, businesses, shopping malls, post offices and educational institutions are closed on this day.**

Those wishing to travel via public transport on the day will need to contact the local transport authorities on the public transport availability. Traffic may be disrupted because of Milad-un-Nabi processions on major routes.
Background
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The first public celebrations of Milad-un-Nabi occurred in Egypt towards the end of the 11th century. It was primarily a festival of the Shia ruling class. The celebrations featured Koran recitations, animal sacrifices, public sermons and feasts.**

The first public observance of Milad-un-Nabi by Sunnis took place in 12th century in Syria under the rule of Noor-un-Din Zangi. In 1910 it was given the official status as a national festival throughout the Ottoman Empire. Milad-un-Nabi is now an official holiday in many Muslim countries throughout the world.
Symbols

Green colored pennants are often seen during Milad-un-Nabi processions, on shrines and mosques. Green is a color associated with the Prophet as being one of his favored colors. It is said that the Prophet chose a green colored flag to represent the Islamic republic during his life. Candles and oil lamps (Chiragan) are lit on the eve of 12 Rabi-ul-Awwal to welcome the Prophet’s arrival and to celebrate his birth.

As you can see from my previous post, it's mainly an event full of lights and colors and public rallies on streets and mixed gatherings in the name of naat and milad, and gun salutes and distribution of halwa and public holiday (public holidays are also known as the day of hud ****** in Pakistan)

I probably missed that book of seerat of sahaba where they used to celebrate eid milad un nabi like that. Can someone please send me a link?

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I'm no where near innocent brother TLK ... :D

I'm not associated with people of excess in either direction ... To be completely prohibiting of the practice is as bad as what you describe above. People of the middle path ... Are the ones who love the most and are most adherent ... They sacrifice no quarter ... And are the most sacrificing ...