Eid milad un nabi is biddat - Saudi mufti

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Re: Eid milad un nabi is biddat - Saudi mufti

@MangoMan

How do we establish what is allowed in Islam and what is not when we don’t agree on what Islam is? I mean if I am arguing with someone about the physical/chemical properties of something, we’l test our claims and the results of the test will be used to validate the claims. Problem solved: ‘undeniable truth’ is out. Moving to religion and religious claims, how do we validate claims? I think we get as far as referring to some religious text which is again open to so many interpretations. So if we don’t have a process through which we can find the ‘truth’, why give an impression as if we are on a mission to find it. Let us accept it. We all have different beliefs. That’s it.

P.S. I have never celebrated any Milaad.

Peace MangoMan

Everything you find for validation and truth claims in other domains are also present in religion. To explain … In order to debate any topic be it the chemical properties of a substance or not and in order to validate it we need to have in place certain things:

1. A common understanding of the issue
2. A similar teaching and academic background
3. A set of parameters within which the said argument can be demonstrated
4. Evidence of said argument

In order to refute the argument we need to do so

1. Within the said parameters
2. Show evidence of how the hypothesis does not fit

It is easy … And these rules are universal for all things scientific or religious … If we don’t agree on what Islam is as you say then before we deal with ijtehad we should be addressing the definition of Islam first. When there is commonality there then you go further and further … To present ‘empirical scientific evidence’ as truth and anything else unable to reach similar ends is flawed. We have logical tools that can help us reach similar ends with concepts as we do with scientific findings.