Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
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Brother ajazali … name a Sufi who qualifies in the above please …
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
^By saying that sufis use those ahadith for fiqh I meant... they defend their belief using those ahadith not that 'sufi' imams formulated or derived madhab from those ahadith. I know sufis belong to different madhab. To be honest, only few people from tableeghi jamat I have seen truely chagned after joining them. But they are only a few in numbers. Sufis of other groups use to note ahadith and verse of quran on paper as out of context material and argue with people. Sufis like sister hareem is :p kidding
ok, here are few questions Is tassuwaff all about belief and theory? anything about practice? the only difference you mention is they are not reactionary and dont believe in political Islam, right?
Egypt as country (not govt) is not sufi leaning is a news to me.
Brother 'aqeedah schools deal with belief, fiqh schools deal with religious practice, tassawwuf schools deal with state of being.
For example fiqh schools will not be able to shed light on the following:
How to deal with anger - they will merely tell us that we shouldn't allow ourselves to get angry.
How to create khushu' in prayer - fiqh schools will merely tell us that we need to pray.
How to learn to not be judgemental
How to become content with the Decree of Allah (SWT)
How to stimulate ihsan - how to bring ourselves in the Presence of Allah (SWT) - fiqh has nothing about this
Tassuwwuf is the art of "being" in the state of Islam. People who fight for political gain are as a matter of fact not fighting for Allah (SWT). Fi Sabeelillah - means "for the sake of Allah" which means they will take no booty from it - they will take no payment in the form of spoils of war or power and position. Just like a dog hunts for you and if it does not touch the game after the kill that is halal, but if it eats from the meat then it killed it for itself.
Jihad with physical fighting - is about the culmination of physical effort but remaining in control of fear, anger and resisting temptation of pillaging and rape and/or killing the enemy indiscriminately or before they attack. Going to war without mastering tassuwwuf will create injustices as we see them happening.
There was a wali who was saved when was thrown to the lions - one had his head in its mouth and later he was asked - what he thought when the lion had his head in its mouth ... he said "I was trying to work out whether the saliva of lion is impure or not" - that is a fiqh issue ... :) but his tassuwwuf allowed him to forget the imminent threat of death and instead be concerned with what was more worthy of concern.
Sufis are not pacifists - but going to battle is no simple feat - the greatest enemy on the battlefield is the nufs.
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
hareem is not sufi or atleast pro sufi? she labels every other scholar as wahabi. not to speak of likes of dr israr you even tend to lable Tariq jameel as extremist wahabi.
didnt she say alazhar are not sufis?
million dollar question. are all the fighters fighting against Syrian regime are terrorist?
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
Brother 'aqeedah schools deal with belief, fiqh schools deal with religious practice, tassawwuf schools deal with state of being.
For example fiqh schools will not be able to shed light on the following:
How to deal with anger - they will merely tell us that we shouldn't allow ourselves to get angry. How to create khushu' in prayer - fiqh schools will merely tell us that we need to pray. How to learn to not be judgemental How to become content with the Decree of Allah (SWT) How to stimulate ihsan - how to bring ourselves in the Presence of Allah (SWT) - fiqh has nothing about this
Tassuwwuf is the art of "being" in the state of Islam. People who fight for political gain are as a matter of fact not fighting for Allah (SWT). Fi Sabeelillah - means "for the sake of Allah" which means they will take no booty from it - they will take no payment in the form of spoils of war or power and position. Just like a dog hunts for you and if it does not touch the game after the kill that is halal, but if it eats from the meat then it killed it for itself.
Jihad with physical fighting - is about the culmination of physical effort but remaining in control of fear, anger and resisting temptation of pillaging and rape and/or killing the enemy indiscriminately or before they attack. Going to war without mastering tassuwwuf will create injustices as we see them happening.
There was a wali who was saved when was thrown to the lions - one had his head in its mouth and later he was asked - what he thought when the lion had his head in its mouth ... he said "I was trying to work out whether the saliva of lion is impure or not" - that is a fiqh issue ... :) but his tassuwwuf allowed him to forget the imminent threat of death and instead be concerned with what was more worthy of concern.
Sufis are not pacifists - but going to battle is no simple feat - the greatest enemy on the battlefield is the nufs.
but my belief is you dont have to go extra mile when you are not ordered to do so. You are answerable to what is ordered to you. If you think fiaqh or deen does not tell how to attain khushu in prayers then dont invent methods to exaggerate. Also I believe if you cannot obtain khushu after learning deen then you cannot learn it through tassuwwuf either. You can make people have some sort of imagination to concentrate while offering prayer but it could be worse. because you can remove one thought from mind but it will take another. so it can be anything but khushu. concentration comes with being attached to deen not with tassuwuff. infact level of khushu varies person to person. tassuwwuf can do nothing to improve it.
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
Brother ajazali
This is because your definition of Deen is limited. You currently think that tassuwwuf is not part of the Deen. I am saying the Deen has three dimensions … Aqeedah, Fiqh, and Tassuwwuf. The Deen has 4 sources of knowledge … Qur’an, Ahadith, 'ijma of scholars and personal rational thought and inclination. The Deen is not just Fiqh, neither is it just 'aqeedah and fiqh … According to hadith Jibreel - We learn about Iman, Islam and Ihsan … Iman is made firm through the sciences of Aqeedah, Islam is made firm through the sciences of fiqh and Ihsan is made firm through the sciences of tassuwwuf. The ways of tassuwwuf are combined between a physical/practical transmission that is either hard or impossible to document - and the basic core understandings are taken from Qur’an and Sunnah, just like 'aqeedah is taken from Qur’an and Sunnah and fiqh is taken from Qur’an and Sunnah. We have different ulema of fiqh and we have different ones for tassuwwuf. It is not an alien mechanism as you suggest … It is merely something you have had little exposure to.
I suggest you read some Sufi literature - not the poetry and not the songs - (they will mislead you anyway because you need training to read them) they do not explain the sciences anyway. You need to read ihya-'uloom-din by Imam Al-Ghazali, and/or Al-Hikam by Ibn 'Ata Illah Al-Askandari and/or the Poor Man’s Book of Assistance by Imam Ahmad Zarruq.
Here is a good article - The Poor Man’s Book of Assistance (CD 1) | as-Sadiq
If you think that the sciences of tassuwwuf are an innovation - then they are not more of an innovation of the aqeedah schools or the fiqh schools. Rather Islam for the Salaf all of these were combined … and in order to maintain the way of the Salaf all three have to be adopted. For sure Islam will not tell us to be attentive and to be good without telling how to be good. It comes back to the origins of the mindset of violent Islamists - You can’t take the journey of Islam through a purely knowledge based route - it is traditionally a route of living masters who have students and they become masters for future generations. Masters being people who live Islam, breathe Islam and manifest a prophetic character.
In Al-Bukhari and Ahmad it says “The only reason I have been sent is to perfect good character” - So how can it then be that you say there is no mechanism available for us to learn that very thing RasoolAllah (SAW) was sent for?
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
^I have ihya ul uloom volumes. Then again problem is no proper references to ahadith, ambiguous stance on music and other things. Anyway I will try to share some topics from that book.
if tassuwuff is already part of deen then it should not be preached separately or explicitly. or are telling that non-sufis subtract tassuwuff part from Islam?
And I believe that deen is way of life, not just worshiping. That is why Islam as deen should be followed in every aspect of life. Politics and governance systems are not exceptions.
Re: Egypt removes wahabi/salafi literature
Tariq Jameel is not wahabi....just a deobandi and deobandi don't condemn terrorism.