Eeshwar Allah tero Naam !

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Allah is an Arabic, whereas Khuda is Persian term. Zia being pro Saudi and against Shia Iran tried to root out Persian culture on the name of Islamisation :D Even TV/Radio announcers were instructed to say Allah Hafiz instead of Khuda Hafiz.

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In Indian culture, Guru and parents are above god, as they are the one who establish conscience of god in an individual. Gurus never claimed theselves as god, but the diciples, Sikhs gave them status of Guru making both Guru and God inseprable, gurbani, teaching of Guru is teaching of god.
Gurus are like Waheguru,Babaji etc, god is referred as Rabbji:)

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I like this Rabbji. Kinna sohna lagda ae :)

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jai ho zia chacha ki, he is authentic chacha of Pakistan:D, I thought khuda is just a replacement of Allah.

Yeah specially when Geet Kaur Dhillon says, thankyou babaji mera record tootne se bacha liya:D"

In hindu part of Jat land, Hindu Jats, idols of gods are generally not available in house, and if god is there, there would be curtain on it and Jat women not even look at them, they might not be knowing single bhajan but swear in the name of god while threatining to kill any Rickshaw or rehriwala:D

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Why curtain on gods? :hmmm: Reminds me story of Yousuf Zulekha, where Zulekha put curtain on her gods while following Yousuf (AS)

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I am an Indian, a born Hindu and married to a Sikh but I have never come across any statement that says parents or gurus are above god. Yes, a lot of times they are equated to god as they definitely establish the conscience of god, goodness, kindness, and also an individuality within themselves.

The Upanishads say:
-- Matru devo bhavaḥ (Mother is equivalent to god and her name is taken first as she is the one who has given birth)
-- Pitru devo bhavaḥ (Father is equivalent to god and comes after the mother)
-- Acharya devo bhavaḥ (Teacher/Guru is equivalent to god and comes after the parents in terms of priority)
-- Atithi devo bhavaḥ (Guests either invited or uninvited at your place are equivalent to god and you are asked to treat them with respect and not turn them away. This is another way of saying God can appear anywhere unannounced and in any form and people are always expected to be ready to invite him.)

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Interesting. By the way, how about Patti Parmeshwar hota hai?

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Sikh is the last choice to be made if one has to chose husband:D j/k
Will give direct you to right instance of Bhagwan Krishna's life but you have to dig out rest:)
Bhagwan was taught in 52 vidhyas in 52 days by Rishi Sandipani whose son was lost in the sea to a Rakshas who lived in the sea, Guru Mata requests Shri Krishna to retrieve her son who lived in conch in the sea, when Balram asked him about risks, Bhagwan says somethng, that something is for you to find, that conch is called Paanchjanya though:)

Upnishads are post vedic literature, Hinduism is never consistent in its writing, Vedas says Indra,Mitra,Varun etc are god and those who don't believe in them are naastik and condemned to death but later hinduism has holy trinity which is no where in Vedas. You are new guest here, hence Atithi devo bhavah:)

Pati Parmeshwaray namoh namah are the words mostly used by Mata Parvati for Bhagwan Shiv, hence many a times she is directly quoted in favor of this statement.

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Gods don’t have poojaghar in Jatland, they are kept in upper rack of almira seldom worshipped so to keep dust away, curtains are used by them, sometimes you may not find idols/photos of Laxmi Ganesh on deepawali,they lose them even:D

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:rotfl:

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Tengri was the old word, Khuda and Allah are now the more common replacement. Although sometimes the elders still say "Pahl ne wallay" to refer to god, "Oh giver of life"

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Tendri is used for God in Pashto?

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Yeah in some parts but its old Turkic for "Sky father". In old Turkic and Mongolian Korans the Word for Allah is translated as "Tenri"

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I can’t remember but there was also a particular name for God in Mongols probably Yasa.. :konfused:

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No, Yasa is like a code of honour, its not actually a word for God. Its like a decree... or habit that you follow. This is a bad example but you could say Yasa is eqiuvalent to "Sunnah" of someone. For example Yasa of Ghengis Khan would be total control or domination of other people.

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So Mongols didn't have concept / name for God?

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Not entirely no, some believed and still do in numerous Gods, others believed in thier elders or animals or spirits and some believed in Monothiesm where they believed in a single "creator" which they reffered to as Sky father or creator from above... this is the closest beliefe they had to a single god like entity and they had many names for it... Tengri was the most common and only survivor to today other words like Arhbayn or Bairam were used but they dont really use them today. Tengri or Tangrai is the only one that has survived from the past.

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I read some where Allah saahib ...used by some old scholar

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I think Muhammad saheb was much common during British era.