The day you become a Mod I’ll spam TLK’s Reha Namaan Niksik and Sara’s threads non-stop.
Agreed. KP arguing with parents on issues that they are ‘resolute’ about only worsens the problem. Just talk to them in a clam way (I know its hard) and try to give them examples of girls’ or your friends’ that wil work. Hopefully they’ll change their mind!
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Parents want what's best for there kids, but sometimes they just don't get it!
I'm gonna rant.
What's the point of sending your daughters to college/university when ultimately you're not gonna give them the option to work? I will scream if I hear the 'You can work after your married' argument one more time. I'm not slaving in uni to then not pursue a career. Do parents even realise how much work goes into being a student and getting a degree? It's NOT easy. And then I get the 'we'll find someone who will provide enough for you so you don't have to work'. IT'S NOT ALL ABOUT THE MONEY! I'm interested in my field, I want to excel in it and I want to make a name for myself. There is NOTHING wrong with choosing not to work after marriage and being a full time wife and mom but why don't people realise that's not what every Asian women wants to do? And then I talk about getting a job now and I get 'we give you all the money you need, you don't need a job'. Ummm okay but then what if I get married to a man who can't provide for us and I need to get a job and I go for an interview and they ask to see my CV and I say 'oh sorry, I'm 23 years old and this is the first job I've ever applied for'. Wowww yeah chances of me getting that job are realllll high.
Agh.
As parents, will you encourage your daughters to build careers? Will you discriminate between your sons and daughters when it comes to education and work?
I think her point is that she wants to work because she actually likes her field and wants to pursue a career in it.
There are many reasons people get an education and lots dont even work in the field they specialized in. Its more about personal growth, enrichment of mind and character among other things.
I will say...your parents should let you work.
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you know what baffles more more. the fact that someone gives a girl the option to work or not work. to do this or that. there's so much you cant do sometimes just because you're a girl. it's ethically/morally/religiously a good thing, but one can't pursue it, because you're a girl and someone tells what you can and cant do.
it's not about having a job, i agree, it's about pursuing the career and dream you went after and building a good life. a job is rather boring.
lol..tell u what..even that doesnt help sometimes 
Hi KP,
Your parents are saying, "You can work after you're married".....LOL. And what if you end up getting married to a guy who doesn't approve of women working after marriage? Have your parents considered the possibility that not every guy wants a working woman? So, during the rishta meets.....that may be a question for you to ask the prospect.
Have your parents given you reasons for why they don't want you to work? Is it because they're afraid that a working girl will appear too modern and will hinder marriage proposals? This shouldn't be much of an issue outside of Pak where it's common for women to work. But the reason I ask is because one of my cousins in Pak was turned down by rishta prospects because they preferred someone who had no interest in working. Are your parents opposed to your working because they fear that you'll fall in love with someone at the workplace as opposed to marrying someone of their choice? Or are your parents just being overprotective......in other words, are they afraid that you'll be taken advantage of in some way at the workplace? Or are your parents afraid that if you become a "working woman", you won't pay attention to household chores such as cooking and cleaning? Find out their reasons.
I would suggest that you CALMLY (and i KNOW how hard it can be to stay calm) discuss this issues with your parents. Explain your reasons for working. Explain the benefits for working. And then **ASK THEM **what their reasons are for not allowing you to work. Calmly listen to their reasons.........and counter/refute their objections with intelligent points of your own.
*************Here's a point/benefit of having a job that you might want to bring up with your parents: **Tell your parents that life is unpredictable and that you never know what might happen in the future that might compel a woman to find a job. And when the economy is strained.......employers are more likely to give the job to someone who has PRIOR WORK EXPERIENCE and can be depended upon. Someone who has PRIOR WORK EXPERIENCE is also going to get PAID MORE than someone who is starting the job for the very first time.
Most of Pakistan is a uneducated. Thats why it is what it is. You should compare that to some country like sweden which has the highest rate of education in the world…i’d say you have to disagree with what you said.
I think kurripunjaban’s point is that she should be allowed to decide whether she wants to work or not. Otherwise I agree…what IS the point of being made to go to school/college work hard and then have the option of working snatched away from you?
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If your parents are afraid that by getting a job, you won't pay attention to household chores........(IF that's the reason).....then start doing household chores to show them that you can handle professional responsibilities as well as domestic ones.
The only other thing I'd suggest......and this shouldn't be the first resort........but a sad/mopey look and pretending to have lost your appetite............can jolt some parents into considering an issue from their child's point of view ;) Hint hint.
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The purpose of education or even getting a degree never was and never will be to get a job. Prophet Mohammad didn't ask people to send their daughters to even China for education just so the daughters could go out and start working or have a job.
YES YES DON'T SHOUT AT ME, you are entitled to work. I am not going to lecture you that you shouldn't. It is totally up to you. BUT to say that WHAT IS THE POINT OF SENDING YOUR DAUGHTERS TO UNIVERSITY OR SOMETHING IS A VERY JAHILANA PRE-ISLAMIC THOUGHT AND NOTION.
My dad is the kind of person who is very STUBBORN. The moment and day I entered university he gave me a whole lecture that you are not going to go to university and study to get a job. I don't want you to. Why should you get a job when I can support you? Your aim should be to get EDUCATED. He said all that and yet I was able to convince him to let me do a job but not a job in the traditional sense. Do something like teaching which is what I am doing right now or freelancing. I am sure if you tell your parents slowly slowly they will accept your decision to work too.
University degree is so much more than a piece of paper and YES YES EVEN FOR THE LADIES WHO ARE GOING TO GET EDUCATED AND SIT AT HOME.
It teaches you inter-personal communication skills, it teaches you socialisation skills, it teaches you how to handle with your own problems and also problems which are not sometimes yours, it teaches you how to stand on your own two feet if needed, it teaches you how to face the world.
My stupid jahil phuppa also once asked my dad why he is sending me to such an expensive university and why not save money and make jahez and marry me off. The paragraph(s) above is somewhat what dad told them. Now alhumdullilah after dad's lecture my phuppha has come around and is going to send his daughter to university too. Even though she is 22 but never too late is it.
God forbid your husband dies or something or forget husband, your dad dies and your brothers are of no use or do not support you or you do not have a brother, how are you going to look after yourself? Are you going to be dependent on others? GIRLS NEED TO BE EDUCATED. WE NEED MORE EDUCATED GIRLS AND WOMEN IN THIS WORLD.
These days you have seen how the divorce rates are high or how the husbands turn out later on after the wedding, then women have to work! How will women work if they don't have a degree? No one wants a jahil aurat these days and society taunts jahil people, especially women. Why do you want us all to go to some pre-Islamic, historic era where women were treated like crap etc?
It is good women are getting educated. The goal and aim is to get educated, not to get a piece of paper and then go out and earn money. YES AFTER YOU GET EDUCATED, you can use your skills etc which you have acquired to do whatever you want, and that includes working/job.
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TO BE EDUCATED DOESNT NOT EQUAL A RIGHT TO HAVE A JOB....
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KP I hope you do understand that you are not cut for an office job . You are too pretty for it 
and yea your family only wanted you to be educated enough so you can read and write and be happy the way you are . These worldly desires of a job and making money will ruin you personality . We don’t want you to change 
Your sense of humor is on vacation ? 
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well having a professional degree and sitting at home is definitely a waste of resources. its not like knowing civil engineering or thoracic surgery is going to help with raising kids in any way.
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Okay, WOW...yeah most of you COMPLETELY missed the point of my thread. Sara, Queer, BBQ, Ladlee and Reha got what I was trying to say. OBVIOUSLY education moulds us; school is a very important part of our life. It gives us the life skills we need, builds our personalities etc etc what I’m trying to say is why force your children into further education, put them in debt knowing you’re not gonna give them the option to work. I’m getting a law degree, by the time I’ve graduated I’m gonna be in a lottttt of debt, not only that I’ve spent the last 2 years pushing myself like I’ve never done before just to be told that I don’t need a job? It’s like someone taking cooking lessons and then never cooking, yes educate your daughters, it’s illegal to not send your children to school (in some countries not all), but why educate them to degree level when essentially that degree is not gonna be utilised. Fair enough I’ll have a degree, and as some of you said it’ll come in handy if I ever need to fend for myself say if my husband can’t, but having a degree doesn’t automatically mean in 10 years time or 20 years time when I have to get a job I’m gonna get one purely cause I have a degree. You need EXPERIENCE, and you can’t get experience without a job. I’ve talked to them about this so much but I always get the same response, while you’re living under our roof you don’t need to work. My mum likes to protect us and she thinks (or has heard experienced) other peoples daughters working, becoming independent and essentially running their own lives. They want me to need them, that what this boils down too. Money is not the problem. I’m passionate about what I want to do in the future, I want to teach, so to be going to uni, getting a degree and being qualified enough to get the job but then being told I’m not allowed it? It’s insane to me. I might as well have saved myself the stress I’ve went through the last 4 years, sat at home and learnt to cook and clean. FURTHER EDUCATION is what I’m referring to, degrees. Not school.
And yeah another thing, I was FORCED into getting a GOOD degree. I had the choice between pharmacy, accountancy and law. WTF? WHAT is the point if I’m not gonna be able to do anything with this degree? That’s what I’m trying to get at.
And RV thank you for your advice.
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^Lol, don't expect posters around these parts to get your point.
Okay, WOW...yeah most of you COMPLETELY missed the point of my thread. Sara, Queer and Reha got what I was trying to say.
:( wipes tears
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Kyaaaa…phir say kajay dekho? 
Kurri, I agree with everything you've said.
well having a professional degree and sitting at home is definitely a waste of resources. its not like knowing civil engineering or thoracic surgery is going to help with raising kids in any way.
True
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