Dying in Britain

Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan died in London 1997 while trying to get to US for treatment of his kidney failure and Asad Amanat Ali Khan died in London 2007 after being diagnosed with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy.

Very interesting to know.

There were news at the time or before Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan’s death, something was not properly followed and his intravenous medication had some trouble.

Can anyone find that or comment on it?

US medical care so far is much better. True or false?

Two very famous pakistanis die in the country that has the largest pakistani population out of pakistan.

My spidey senses are also tingling.

Does US have better healthcare? I would have to say no.

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Why are we comparing US with the UK, UK is but only an island , US is huge with varied resources and a much varied population :hmmm:

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Two ppl death can’t decide who lead who in health department. IF a person is suffering from chronic disease and he dies in UK ..why to question the medical care.

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Aren’t the healthcare systems in both completely different. What aspects are being compared.

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Zindagi aur maut Allah ke haat main hain…when it’s your time to go, it’s going to happen regardless what country you’re in.

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UK’s health care is called NHS. It is the most messed up system in the world and patients have to wait ages to get treatment. The system is only getting worse and worse with NHS hospitals constantly giving compensations to patient’s families, patients who pass way because of them. There are crappy GP’s who moan about pay rises but don’t give out prescriptions, doctors are illiterate and nurses are messed up in the head.
Stafford Hospital scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
BBC News - Stafford Hospital NHS trust to be dissolved
BBC News - NHS waiting time data for elective surgery ‘unreliable’
NHS migrant charges ‘uneconomic and inefficient’ - ITV News
*(http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/willheaven/100018145/ive-worked-for-the-nhs-so-dont-tell-me-to-love-it/)
Hunt: NHS must reform or it will fail | The Sunday Times
‘Disturbingly poor care is too common in NHS’, says chairman of Mid-Staffs inquiry - Telegraph](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/10479470/Disturbingly-poor-care-is-too-common-in-NHS-says-chairman-of-Mid-Staffs-inquiry.html)
11,000 lost lives from heart attacks due to poor NHS care - Telegraph

My mother has been having some health related problems and the doctors keep denying anything is happening. So people in US should consider themselves lucky.*

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May your mother get relief from any illness or suffering and becomes healthy/strong soon. Ameen.

The question is serious and thanks for bringing weight on one side. :)*

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**

Ameen, and shukriya.

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The NHS is the standard service health treatment given in the UK … There is a whole lot of treatment covered by the private health care system too … So I’m not sure we can compare the US with UK … The UK tends to do a lot more to prevent diseases by encouraging healthy lifestyles. One need just look at the health of the citizens … Ok there are super big holes in the NHS namely the wrong attitudes and disaffection in staff, because they are not the best and they are not paid the most the stress of the job gets the better of them …

I don’t think the Ali Khan’s would have been given NHS treatment because they are not UK citizens … But if they came to the UK literally hanging on a thread to save their lives then it’s unfair to say the UK is not good enough … if they die there.

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Ethan Hunt … Sending du’as and for your mother’s recovery … Have you tried private health care or is that not a feasible option?

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Ameen, and thanks.
The doctors are just looping the same thing again and again. They just refer to one doctor and then he/she does the same, and there are long waiting times, ufff tauba. The system is free but behat dekhe khane parte hein.
Private care is an option but it is insanely expensive. It would be cheaper for us to get an insurance but then insurance only covers what happens after it’s bought, not the before history. Then if one receives a private patient won’t be continued by NHS in the future.
Lots of stupid stuff.

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While US is proceeding towards British or Canadian kind of healthcare slowly, two systems are very different for now.

Two prominent singers died in Britain.

Both could have survived if care was taken.

Off course, life and death is not controlled by human, but that should not make all of us not even to try to save lives or make people not suffer, by better healthcare.

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May Allah give health and recovery to your mother. however I have to disagree with you that the system is messed up. It is free and gives a very good service. Sure there are delays and frustration but than if a system is free than these things will happen. I have had a very good experience of NHS and cant run them down. Twice I was struck with Kidney stones and I was admitted straight away and treated. About four years ago I had some heart problems and I was admitted straight away and all the tests carried out and was given a clean bill of health. I am diabetic, my medication is free, I get reminders for free annual check up. At the start of winter I get messages for flu jabs and as soon as I hit 60 I was asked to get tested for bowel cancer, which they do to all over 60’s. My father passed away recently and for the last six weeks of his life he was on palliative care at home. The service was first class and made my fathers last days very comfortable. Yes there are frustrations but overall hats off to NHS.*

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Michael Jackson died in the US .. does that mean we should question US healthcare too? :hmmm:

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There are huge difference between UK & US. If you are insured in US, its a lot better than NHS, there simply is no comparison and with passage of time, NHS is getting worse. Hospitals are under staffed, employees underpaid. No doubt many british doctors have left UK and are working elsewhere.

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people seem to be confusing two issues: quality of treatment and effectiveness of the healthcare system.

the US offers the highest quality medical treatment in the world - it has the best hospitals and the best doctors. this is not why the US healthcare system gets criticized.

the criticism is about the the breadth of coverage. the problem is that many people are left without adequate healthcare coverage. this issue is unrelated to the quality of treatment a privileged person like NFAK would experience at a high-end US hospital.

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I gave examples of two just to have a background. I guess those examples can be ignored.
Michael Jackson death was very odd and different event. Worthy of separate discussion.

Maybe when universal coverage program is implemented, the quality goes down with it?

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Inna lillahi wa inna ilayhi raji’oon. May Allah grant him jannat. Ameen.
Thanks for the dua’s. May Allah give you health and shifa. I’m glad that you had a great experience with NHS. Unfortunately for us, not so great. I don’t think there is any denying that NHS has best of the class facilities, it’s just the people that annoy me.

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US is better than UK in every sense