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The Islamic ruling is clear. You, like so many nowadays, show utter ignorance of your faith.
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then ...plz..sir....provide this religious ruling of some authentic religious scholar...
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Holland is very rich of such people, one of them had to leave not too long ago. She was actually born in a muslim family, and used to criticise Islam a lot. All based on her own baseless bull**** propaganda. And she was allowed to become a parliamentarian in a major political party here.
yeah it was this somalian Ayaan Hirsi Ali, a stupid critic of Islam.
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isnt there freedom of religion across Europe? or let say in Netherlands 
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OH ..are you not jocking.....
i think ..in netherland ..hmo marriages are allowed..so we must RESPEC them....
wondeing how many muslims living in makkah ....for 13 years ..when they did not do Hijrah...Respect the Makkans ..and do idol worshipping ....for thier respect....!!!!
It's not your country, so shut the Hell up. No one wants to live under backward laws so stop crying.
You're the reason why anti-Muslim sentiment has been rising over the past decade.
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Excellent post. Muslims must respect host culture. Those that cant, make hijra. That is the Islamic ruling.
Most of us would be quite happy moving back to our own countries but a lot of us fear our own country Pak being turned into a hellhole like Iraq and Afghanistan by imperialistic invaders..
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Excellent post. Muslims must respect host culture. Those that cant, make hijra. That is the Islamic ruling.
i agree. But how is dressing according to your will or practicing your religion against the host culture. or are you implying that we should embrace all local practices in the name of respect for the host culture?
Except a few idiots, most muslims do respect the host culture. For example, marriage to four women is allowed in muslim countries but its not allowed in most western countries. To date, i'm not aware of a muslim man who defied this law and expected the host culture to accomodate this practice. On the contrary, i'm aware of a person who had two wives in pakistan, but could only legally bring one of them to Canada, so one of them lives in pakistan.
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Holland was once the nicest country having lived there for 8 years , i dint even know racism existed , turkish , moroccons and pakistanis make up most of the population . so many muslims . there was none of this hatred . yet wen we go bk now it is a totally changed country . however i did not notice a chnage in dutch ppl's behaviour. but ppl living there tell us that holland has chnage and muslims do face difficulties.
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Most of us would be quite happy moving back to our own countries but a lot of us fear our own country Pak being turned into a hellhole like Iraq and Afghanistan by imperialistic invaders..
Aren't you gay? Have fun getting stoned to death LOL
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But how is dressing according to your will or practicing your religion against the host culture. or are you implying that we should embrace all local practices in the name of respect for the host culture?
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You expect non-Muslims in Muslim countries to respect their culture, so why can't Muslims do the same?
It's funny how Muslims in the West continue to whine about being persecuted when they openly support al-Qaeda getting rid of Christians in Iraq, Palestine, Egypt, and Pakistan.
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You expect non-Muslims in Muslim countries to respect their culture, so why can't Muslims do the same?
It's funny how Muslims in the West continue to whine about being persecuted when they openly support al-Qaeda getting rid of Christians in Iraq, Palestine, Egypt, and Pakistan.
you know wot, you are just as radical in your opinion about muslims as those who support suicide bombers. and let me clarify that i don't support those idiots nor am i a supporter of those who want to kill all non-muslims or convert them. I just believe that the west should practice wot it is preaching. Some of the ideals present in the western countries, such as justice, rule of law, religious tolerance etc. are the ideals of islam and appeal to all but a few people. These should not be sacrificed for the sake of cheap political gain. In the past, the same hysteria now being flamed against muslims was present against communists, and japanese during the 2nd world war and everybody knows that it did nothing but to punish mostly innocent people.
wot according to you would be deemed 'respecting the local culture'? would you be satisfied only if muslims participate in all the local practices, for example going to clubs, drinking, eating pork, dating, etc. etc.?
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:k:
Exactly a piece of silk on a girls head or praying is not breaking any laws or trespassing any taboos.
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Consenus seems to be against this proposal by one idiot to ban the Quran. Is it safe to say that everyone is also against the actual ban on the Bible in Saudi Arabia?
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If he wants to ban Quran in Holland, then all Bibles should be seized from Christians as well in Muslim countries...
It's only fair...After all, Christians mock the Prophets of Islam, desecrate t heir holy Book and burn Masajid...
So why not tit for tat?
If the west is always right and guys like these have power, like Glenn Beck, Bill O'Reilly, televangelists who insult Islam and want to wipe out Muslim countries, I think Muslims should stop trying to act nice and start to act more like the westerners...
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Consenus seems to be against this proposal by one idiot to ban the Quran. Is it safe to say that everyone is also against the actual ban on the Bible in Saudi Arabia?
Seminole...Please ask for clarifications before posting...
Religious books from other religions are not banned in KSA...They are very much allowed unless you have been getting your reports from dubious sources...
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Ok, let's pretend there are Bibles for sale at every bazaar in Saudi Arabia. Please clarify for me, are Christians allowed anything approaching what one would call religious freedom? If you want to go tit for tat you will be losing a whole lot more than you may want to admit.
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Aren't you gay? Have fun getting stoned to death LOL
Hairy ball-head Bhindians like you turned me str8.
Your ignorance of Islamic law amazes me, first I'm a non-practicing bi because my faith forbids practicing it, nobody is considered sinful in Islam merely because of their feelings, deliberate homo-erotic fantasizing and acts are what is forbidden.
Islamic law only applies to those who practice it in public and the actual penetration is witnessed by atleast 4 witnesses which is very unlikely, it's more as a deterent to keep society decent, if somebody does it in the privacy of their home it's between them and God, it's still sinful but Islamic law prohibits spying so what people do at home is for God to punish or forgive.
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Which Muslims in the West openly support al-Qaeda getting rid of Christians in the Muslim world???? Man you are full of so much sh*t it's unreal.
Those "Muslims" that target non-Muslims living amongst us are a bunch of loonatics, most true Muslims condemn them.
Prophet Muhammed PBUH said “He who hurts a dhimmi (non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic Land) hurts me, and he who hurts me annoys Allah.”
Any Muslim who kills a non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic Land is to be executed.
Christians have lived amongst us for centuries, prominent Palestinian/Arab Christian priests and pastors have said they knew no oppression in the Middle East till they started suffering at the hands of Israel together with their Muslim Pali/Arab co-ethnicmen.
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Ok, let's pretend there are Bibles for sale at every bazaar in Saudi Arabia. Please clarify for me, are Christians allowed anything approaching what one would call religious freedom?
What constitutes religious freedom Seminole? If it's the right to worship, then definitely there is permission for that...
This is also evident by the thousands of foreign contractors working there who are Christians...
The only place where there is no other religion allowed is the Hijaz (The area which constitutes Makkah and Madina)...And it is the same religious dictum as in the Vatican...
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Ok, let's pretend there are Bibles for sale at every bazaar in Saudi Arabia. Please clarify for me, are Christians allowed anything approaching what one would call religious freedom? If you want to go tit for tat you will be losing a whole lot more than you may want to admit.
By whole lot more I suppose you are referring to using weapons as always to destroy other people and most probably bombing Makkah and Madina...That is expected from the west as a source of all answers for everything...You think we don't know history?
But, it would at least bring to the forefront the true intent behind the heart of every non-Muslim: The destruction of Islam...
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What constitutes religious freedom Seminole? If it's the right to worship, then definitely there is permission for that...
This is also evident by the thousands of foreign contractors working there who are Christians...
The only place where there is no other religion allowed is the Hijaz (The area which constitutes Makkah and Madina)...And it is the same religious dictum as in the Vatican...
You are the one who should seek clarifications before posting. Please do some research (and not from dubious sources).