Durand-Line and Pakistani-Occupied Afghan land.

I’m a patriotic Paki but my sense of justice compelled me to post this on here and open peoples eyes a bit… If this post is unpalatable to anyone’s tastes please don’t lock it up with lame excuses like wrong forum, transfer it to a forum you deem fit…

**End of Imaginary Durand Line **

The Durand Line: The British presented a signed document with the person of King Abdul Rahman Khan in 1893 referring to the borders between Afghanistan and British India. This document was in English and the person of Abdul Rahman Khan did not understand the English language, therefore leads the suspicious nature of forgery and or false documentation. The Dari or Pashto translation of this document or agreement has never been signed by Amir Abdul Rahman Khan, suggesting that he nullified this agreement. But the following researchers have provided arguments to the contrary that this document was signed and has expired. in either scenario, the Durand line does not exist today.

Source: Dr. G. Rauf Roashan

The line devised by the British was worked by the British Colonial Officer Durand and thus became known as the Durand Line. The document was to be ratified by the legislative body in Afghanistan. It never happened. It was to remain in force for one hundred years. It has not been revived on the deadline, which was 1993 either. Pakistan and now especially its military government is trying disparately to pressure Taleban into what Pakistani interior minister Moinuddin Haider calls revival of the sanctification of the Durand Line. Legally the Durand Line remains as an imaginary line dividing families on both sides. It has never been demarcated either, especially from Khyber Agency north to Chitral. This artificial and imaginary line is increasingly becoming an area of conflict between Pakistan and Afghanistan even with Taleban regime that ironically has the political and military support of the government of Pakistan. A recent visit by an armed convoy of Taleban officials to Momand Agency has touched many nerves in Pakistan and has left it in shock. Friday Times of Pakistan reported the incident.

Pakistan seems to be possessed with its insistence on what its interior minister Moinuddin Haider has called the need for sanctification of the Durand Line. This column has dealt with the historical perspective of the Durand Line in its earlier commentaries. (Refer to the commentary: Sanctity of the Unholy in this column’s archives.) The same minister had travelled a few times into Afghanistan for talks with Taleban on the same issue. He has been reported pressing hard for recognition of this “imaginary line” by Taleban. Pakistani military government had even staged situations of conflict in the border areas in order to drive its point home for recognition of the border. Throughout, notwithstanding their relations with Pakistan, Taleban have resisted the pressure. Moinuddin Haider returned home from Afghanistan without any commitment from Taleban on the issue and as a matter of fact on any issue of importance including his government’s request from Taleban not to destroy the historical statues of Buddha in Bamiyan.

No legislative body in Afghanistan ever ratified the Durand Line agreement, signed by the British with the person of King Abdul Rahman Khan in 1893, and therefore as far as its legality is concerned it remains as a defunct historical document showing colonial designs in the third world countries. The Line was devised by the British to strengthen the status of Afghanistan as a buffer between the British India and the expanding Russian empire desirous of reaching the warm waters of the Indian Ocean and for that matter the rich colonial lands of the subcontinent of India. But when the British left India in 1947 for good, it should have returned Afghan territory at least including the area up to the natural border, the River Indus to Afghanistan. Instead, still dreaming of keeping its colonial interests alive in the subcontinent the British gave this territory to Pakistan, thus creating a double buffer zone between the expansionist Soviet Union and the Indian Ocean. This deprived Afghanistan of direct access to the sea. But this was not the only objective, the British-authored project of Durand Line wanted to achieve. It wanted to separate the Pashtun land by an imaginary line. It would divide not only the land, but would separate families, fathers from sons and brothers from brothers.

However, last Friday, the Friday Times of Pakistan published a comprehensive report on an important incident that challenges the very existence of the notion of the Durand Line. It reported a visit by a high level group of 95 Taleban including their interior minister in a convoy of heavily armed vehicles to Momand Agency. The report says the visit “has revived Afghanistan’s claim on the area and left Islamabad shocked.” The report added TFT has learnt that the delegation, which was accorded a warm welcome by local chieftains and returned the same day whence it had come, visited a number of places in the agency, most notably the Khapakh area, some 20 kilometers west of Ghalanai. It seems that the visit had prompted the local assistant political agent Mutahar Zeb, to send urgent reports to the Home and Tribal Affairs Department. But Pakistani authorities have downplayed the significance of the visit stating that the group was there to offer condolence to a bereaved family. Manzoor Ahmed, additional secretary in the Department is reported to have said that the practice is normal since Momands live on both sides of the Durand Line and share their grief and happiness.

But this is exactly the point any political observer would make. If a tribe is so cohesively entwined, how could any imaginary line divide it? But the Friday Times report also deals with other aspects of the visit. It says: “However, he (Ahmed) could not explain why it was important for the Taleban interior minister to come to Momand Agency all the way from Kabul. According to one malik (chieftain) of the Khoizai tribe, the Taliban expressed anger at the Momand sub-tribes’ on the other side of the line urge to get Pakistani identity cards. “This is our land. We will give you the (identity) cards,” the malik quoted one Taliban delegation member as saying at a tea party, attended among other chieftains by Malik Fazal Manan, a former member of Pakistan’s national assembly. During one of the ceremonies, the delegation also hoisted the Taliban flag at Khapakh.” It is worth mentioning that the visit had scared the Pakistani government so much so that it went ahead and arrested two tribal chieftains namely Malik Abid and Malik Naseem for interrogation and released them after 72 hours. The report further states: “Kabul has refused to renew the Durand Line treaty since 1993 when it expired, " says an Afghanistan expert. One of the reasons Pakistan faced problems with the Kabul rulers right from its inception was Kabul’s claim over the North West frontier Province.” Kabul never accepted that line or the fact that the NWFP is part of Pakistan. This was one of the main policy planks used by Sardar Daoud’s government when it tried to foment trouble by Pukhtoon nationalists in the NWFP on the issue of greater Pukhtunistan," says this expert."

The Durand Line treaty worked by the British was singed in 1893 and was to stay in force for one hundred years. Even if the treaty were ratified by a legal legislative body in Afghanistan its validity would have been expired in 1993 and there is no record of it ever having been revived. Pakistan heavily invested in Taleban for many reasons one of which was what its interior minister calls the sanctification of the Durand Line. However, it should be stated that matters such acceptance or rejection of international borders legally are the responsibility of legislative bodies within states and no executive officer can take over this right. In this respect Taleban are justified in having not taken any decision, as they are not legally qualified to do so. This extremely important and vital issue should be dealt with utmost care and true national representation. Even this imaginary line remains unmarked from Khyber Agency up into Chitral. It has been so for that past one hundred and four years. It will remain so for hundreds of years to come.

This is a testimony to the fact that no artificial line, not even those devised by colonial powers, can and should separate masses of humanity that belong together. 08/11/01

Why the Durand Line is important
W. P. S. Sidhu
Tuesday, November 16, 1999

Pakistan’s close relations with Afghanistan in general and the Taliban in particular are normally seen only in religious fundamentalist terms. The argument is that movements like the Taliban are naturally bound to ally with similar groups, such as the Deobandi groups, in Pakistan. Such an alliance, it is claimed, is driven purely by religious ideology and is, therefore, inherently anti-secular and anti-India. This assertion, however compelling, does not tell the whole story. While there is no doubt that religious and ideological affinity provides a strong basis for the relationship between the two neighbours, Pakistan was bound to pursue a proactive Afghan policy.
There are two principal reasons for this: first, to preserve Pakistan’s western border and, second, to provide strategic depth' against India. In fact, it is more likely that Pakistan is using the Islamic’ garb to veil the significant national and strategic interests that it has in Afghanistan.

The primary reason for this is the legacy of the Durand Line which was drawn as part of an agreement signed on 12 November 1893 between the then ruler of Afghanistan, Abdur Rahman Shah, and Sir Mortimer Durand, the foreign secretary of the colonial government of India. This line, which was delineated in 1894-95, marked the boundary between Afghanistan and the British Indian empire.

In 1947, following the partition of India, it became the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan. This line, which runs though areas inhabited by the Pashtuns, was never accepted by either Afghanistan (which signed it under duress) or the Pashtuns (who sought to create their own homeland called Pashtunistan). As early as June 1949, Afghanistan’s parliament cancelled all the treaties which former Afghan governments has signed with the British-India government including the Durand Treaty and proclaimed that the Afghan government does not recognize the Durand Line as a legal boundary between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Ever since then every government in Islamabad military and non-military has desperately tried to reach a bilateral agreement with successive regimes in Kabul to convert the Durand Line into the international border, but without any success. Despite propping up several pro-Pakistan regimes in Kabul, Islamabad was unable to get any of them to endorse the Durand Line as the international border. In 1996, when the Durand agreement and line completed a century, it was considered to have lapsed. Consequently, Pakistan’s de jure western border ceased to exist.

This realization made it imperative for Pakistan to get even more deeply involved in determining who rules in Kabul. According to a recent US Task Force on Terrorism and Unconventional Warfare report Islamabad has always been anxious to secure a docile Pashtun-dominated government in Kabul. This explains Islamabad’s continuing and increasing involvement in Afghan affairs.

This serves several strategic purposes for Islamabad. First, by co-opting the Pashtuns and promising them Kabul it neutralizes the group that was most likely to challenge the non-existent Durand Line. Second, a pro-Pakistan regime in Kabul is more likely to ensure the de facto preservation of the lapsed and abrogated Durand Line, even if it cannot be converted into an international border. Third, a Pakistani-dominated Afghanistan would then constitute a forward strategic depth on Pakistan’s western flank.

The concept of the ‘strategic depth’ doctrine is not new: it was first articulated by the army chief General Mirza Aslam Beg and tried out in the high-profile Zarb-I-Momin military exercise in 1989-90.

Simply put, the doctrine calls for a dispersal of Pakistan’s military assets in Afghanistan beyond the Durand Line and well beyond the current offensive capabilities of the Indian military. This would ensure the protection of Pakistan’s military hardware.

However, to be really effective the doctrine calls for Pakistan having the ability to field these assets at a time and place of its choosing, which in turn requires not just neutral areas around the Durand Line but Pakistan-dominated areas well within Afghanistan.

Thus, like the ‘Islamic bomb’ slogan of the 1980s, Pakistan’s leadership is now using the convenient ‘Islamic’ label not only to take along the Taliban fundamentalists but also to cover its own strategic and military involvement in Afghanistan. It is important to realize that Islamabad’s strategy to counter India is not driven by religious and fundamentalist rhetoric but by cold military logic.

The writer is MacArthur Scholar at the Centre for International Studies, University of Oxford. Copyright © 1999 Indian Express Newspapers (Bombay) Ltd.

Until this day, the disputed land which rightfully and legally belongs to Afghanistan, is still recognized as the North-West Frontier Province, NWFP. Every other province in Pakistan is named by the ethnic group that resides there, such as Punjab, Sindh, and Balouchistan. But the ethnic Afghans that are forced under the sovereignty of Pakistan must accept the degrading and purposely named NWFP, are they not worthy of a proper name?

The Durand Line was demarcated by the British and signed into a treaty in 1893 with the Afghan ruler Amir Abdur Rehman Khan. The treaty was to stay in force for a 100-year period. According to Afrasiab Khattak, a political analyst, the areas from the Khayber Agency Northwards to Chitral, however, remained un-demarcated. Pakistan itself “violated” the sanctity of the Durand Line when it began to send arms to mujahideen inside Afghanistan to fight the Soviet-backed Afghan communist regime. For its part, Pakistan has tried to push every Afghan ruler, from King Zahir Shah to the Taliban, to renew the Durand Line Treaty. During Pakistan Interior Minister Moinuddin Haider’s visit to Afghanistan, the problem surfaced again but the Taliban government refused to discuss it on the pretext that it was at war with the Northern Alliance and would take up this, and other issues, with Pakistan after the war.

This disputed land was legally to be returned to Afghanistan in 1993 after the 100 year old Durand Treaty expired, similar to how Hong Kong was returned to China. Kabul has refused to renew the Durand Line treaty since 1993 when it expired, Throughout the last nine years, Pakistan has tried to get Afghan Warlords and Taliban to sign a renewal contract of the Treaty, and thankfully they didn’t not fall for the treachery of Pakistan. One of the reasons Pakistan faced problems with the Kabul rulers right from its inception was Kabul’s claim over the North West frontier Province. (NWFP) Kabul never accepted that line or the fact that the NWFP is part of Pakistan. This was one of the main policy planks used by President Daoud Khan’s government when it tried to foment trouble by Pashtuns nationalists in the NWFP on the issue of greater Pashtunistan.

In 1948 Pakistan began the arrest, imprisonment and execution of prominent NWFP Pashtun leaders who did not want to be ruled by Pakistan. Also Pakistan does not have any educational, social and economic plans for the NWFP. Children of Pashtun are thought urdu in schools and businesses are forced to deal with Karachi so that Pashuns of the NWFP never reach powerful status.

It’s Time to Raise National Flag of Afghans in Peshawar and Quetta.

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The flaw with that argument is that the silence of the majority of the population of the NWFP and Balochistan indicates that regardless of the injustices of the past - they want to be part of Pakistan :jhanda:

There is no separatist sentiment in those provinces with a large scale following, as was the case in Bengal. The overwhelming majority of Pakistan’s Pashtuns seem happy being part of Pakistan rather than Afghanistan and as such Pakistan has a duty to defend them against the small separatist minority.

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This is pure afghan propaganda. If people of NWFP wanted to be a part of Afghanistan, we would have seen more intiatitive by them. We would have seen more anti-Pakistan/pro afghanistan rallies and protests but we obviously dont.

Bottom line is no one cares Afghanistan's renewing the Durand line. The whole world recognizes the durand line as Pakistani border and it is going to stay like that. And a country like Afghanistan which has almost no power in world poltics cant change anything.

And with a new pro-US gov't installed in Afganistan, haha, forget about NWFP ever going back to Afganistan

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Exactly my point. These Afghans are trying to spark up hatred against Pakistanis. Pakistan may not be a devleoped a country, but it has way more opurtunities than Afgahnistan ever will

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The pro-indian government in Afghanistan before the soviet invasion tried so hard as well, with radio kabul running shows about pakhtunistan's seperation, but they failed miserably. Durand line is not an issue anymore.

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Up to now Pashtuns have been docile but there is definitely a nationalist uprising amongst the Pashtun community…

It’s better for both sides if Afghan areas are given back to Afghanistan, Pashtuns wont get a fair representation in Pakistan and their culture is endangered because they only make up about 8% of Pakistan’s population and Balochis only about 2% of Pakistan’s population, their ‘West-Asian’ language and way of life is endangered in a predominantly South-Asian Pakistan…

The two cultures are a bad marriage in Pakistan because they’re so different, if Pukhtoons and Balochis go to Afghanistan they’ll have their own West-Asian identity and we can identify with the rest of South-Asia…

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Which is stille extremely small. The majority still see their cultural, political, and economic future as lying with Pakistan. You need only see the attitude of the ruling provincial governments, which were swept to power primarily through representing the rural pashtun majority of the NWFP and Balochistan.

This rural pashtun majority, who one may expect to identify most with Afghan pashtuns, overwhelmingly rejected Pashtun nationalist parties and clearly favours Islamist parties that are dedicated to maintaining the unity of Pakistan.

The rural Pashtuns of Pakistan have proven just how strongly they identify their future as being part of the diverse people of Pakistan rather than a Pashtun nation.

I love Pakistani Pashtuns :hug: :kiss: :jhanda:

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A majority of ethnic Pashtuns actually live in Pakistan, hence it is their main homeland, and when did Balochi-speakers ever show any desire to be part of a greater Afghanistan?

The state called Afghanistan has a majority of non-Pashtun peoples i.e. Hazara’s, Tajiks, Turkmens and Uzbeks who have little desire to be part of that country in the first place. Let us also not forget that most Pashtuns in Pakistan still speak Pashto as a first language, while their ‘ethnic kinfolk’ in Afghanistan largely speak Dari.

Re: Durand-Line and Pakistani-Occupied Afghan land.

What the heck are you doing clicking on this $tupid keyboard. Take your donkey, claypots, and tentcovered women and move to the cave of one-eyed MAToo Umer.

Bunch of beggers now want to threaten 150 million Pakistanis. Damn beggers!

We housed them, clothed them for 30 years. What do we get in return, the same talk as their great grand daddy the commie Abdul Rehman Pizzwak. Had these Afghani commie chamchas lived nicely with Pakistan, those Ruskies wouldn’t have dared to come in. Guess what, the Ruskies did come in and killed millions of these brave Afghans. All their lives these brave Afghanis were happy to be Bharati lotas. When the Ruskies came, Bharatis dumped these tent covered ar$e$ in 30 seconds.

Bunch of Urdu Khans love to froth on the net, while doing little birdie dance in Islamabad. Damn MAToos.

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Imbecile fool go shoot yourself, balley balley dudd lassi punjabii.. :bhangra:At least your honest about your racist nature, most people from Punjab and Karachi have that sort of image about Pukhtoons just because Pukhtoons don’t subscribe to your culture and way life…

I know people over here from Mirpur, Jhelum and Karachi and they all loathe “Pataans”, never let go of a chance to criticise their ‘backward’ lifestyle, their ‘scruffy’ dressing and ‘akhrot’ accent…

I know you’re true nature but when your Pakistan is in ‘khatra’ you start talking about brotherhood to fool some more Pukhtoons, then on the other hand you talk about dividing them to annex more of their land.. Ur basically just using Islamic brotherhood for your own benefit..

I don’t want Pakistan to remerge with India or anything but it should give up what rightfully belongs to sumone else..

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Ha! you don’t want? Pathetic cave dweller one-eyed MAToos are now ready to decide the fate of us all Pakistanis! Shabaash.

Rightful ownership claims come from the true owners. These idiots destroyed their own history in Bamiyan. Killed thousands of Pushtoons, Hazaraz, and Tajiks. Now they want to inflict the same death and destruction to Frontier as well. What about all that blood and gore? Is that just for the love Pukhtoons?

They want to burn Peshawar just like they burned Kabul. Ben-La-Deen and his chamcha one-eyed MAToo is not satisfied with burning Afghanistan. They now are itching to burn Pakistan as well.

Pathetic MAToos! They killed Pakistani-Hazaras of Quetta just because they were Shias and non-Puktoons. These MAToos killed Pakistani-Ahmadis just because they didn’t ascribe to their brand of MATooism. These beardos killed and bombed Christians at the behest of their Arrabob masters.

These MAToos now want to raise slogans of Pukhtoons while utterly destroying Pukhtoon lands. Damn these MAToos! Damn! They love to declare anyone racist who wants to stop the bloodshed being inflicted by the chamchas of Arrabobs.

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Durand line is a very controversial issue and for people who thinks that its internationally recoginised they are just fooling their self. Durand line is never internationaly recognised and nor will it be. things that oakistan have done to afghanistan in the name of jihad, taliban etc is completely unacceptable. Most pakistani say that we give afghan food for 30 years an average afghan living in pakistan can feed 100 pakistani citizen go to city such as karachi,peshawar, and quetta and then you will see the truth. Afghan refugee were fed by the UN do you think that a poor, undevelope country such as pakistan who citizens are originated form afghan warriors and hindu whores in the past can feed all these afghans.

Do you how many pakistani workers work currently in afghanistan for your information the number has crossed over 5 hundred thousand. It is us or pakistan who doesnt want peace in afghanistan. Pakistan need afghanistan for its trade route with central asia and afghanistan doesnt need us they can access arabian sea through iran. If pakistan contineous like this it will isolate itself.
Most pashtuns in pakistan first there leaders were jailed Khan abdula ghafar khan who is burried in jalalabad was imprisoned for 37 years and his son Ghani khan was imprisoned for 35 years this is completely madness.
Pakistan will eventually destroy itself i hope not, but it looks like it well.

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Same commie leftie crap historically pouted by $tupid Kabulies. Keep a dog’s tail in the pipe and will remain crooked even after 100 years.

Durand line is the one that protected your Afghan ar$es. Durand line offered peace to the millions of refugees. Durand line stopped your Ruski masters from chasing your behinds when brave Afghan warrior tribes ran with the tails in their legs.

Now that Ruskis are gone, you think you can drum up Duran line again. Are you out of your frikkin mind?

Every line in the world is controversial. The question is to you Afghan commies and lefties! Do you want to live in peace? do you want to rebuild Kabul, Kandhar, Jalalabad?

Or instead your hatred for Pushtoons wants to destroy Peshawar, Malakand, and Bannu, just like what you did to your Bamiyan Buddhas?

Seems like you all having trouble accepting Afghanistan as a sovereign country, with specific borders, and a system that will help North and South come together. Take advantage of the presence of GI Joes and rebuild your country.

Jihad was an effect and not a cause of Ruski invasion. Are you forgetting about the Ruski masters already?

Hey don’t feed us please. Feed your own brethren in Kandhar.

So are the Afghans who originated from Babur and the Hindu whores. This is especially true for Urdu Khans like you. Only a bai-ghairat pathan will point to someone’s mother.

They are there just like your Bharati masters, your Amreeki masters, your British masters. To protect Kabulies from the one-eyed MAToos and their Arrabob handlers. Quit tapping the keyboard and go develop the dirt poor of the country instead of blaming Pakistan for everything.

Haha! Sign one Free Transit Trade agreement with Iran and you may have a point. Right now Iranian MAToos would rather do Mutaa with Kandhari women.

They were jailed by other pustoons like Qayyum khan. Quit blaming Pakistan for something Pashtoons couldn’t figure out by themselves.

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Pakistan created and at times misused those “MAToos” for her own benefit.

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Hey you Kabulies must learn to stand up like a men. In that area you gotta watch out for your own behind. As soon as you bend forward and lower your shalwar, every Tom, Dick, Harry and Khan will come “enjoy” you.

Wonder why these Kabulies bent forward to begin with? and now they complain that Pakistan took “advantage”.

First find out who [hint hint Iranians, Bharatis and yes the good ole Ruskies] was “enjoying” other brave Afghans like Masood and then come back and complain!

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don’t bring this crap about urine-drinking widow-burning south asia culture that you want Pakistan to identify with

Pakistan is exactly the opposite, Pak is about love and unity with the MUSLIM Ummah regardless of ethnicity/race/culture/language, it is about Pukhtuns, Punjabis, Mahajireen, Sindhis etc. (all of who are ethnically/racially/culturally/linguistically different from each other) standing shoulder to shoulder with each other coz of Islam, Pakistan was made on the idea that Islam was a Muslim’s main identity and that Muslims regardless of background are one nation, the Ummah, every other identity came second, we are not nationalistic about any culture, there is no Paki culture, we all have our own regional cultures which are unique to their own areas and provinces, if we practiced this cultural affinity then Punjabis would want to be associated with the Sikhs across the border coz they are the same ethnicity but they choose to be with the Pukhtoon, Sindhi, Muhajir/Urdu-Speaking etc. brothers coz they are Muslim, Muslims are dearer to us than Kuffar even if the latter have more other things in common with us, we are proud of Pakistan because our ancestors (especially of the Mahajireen who came from India) sacrificed a lot for this land, our heroes laid down their lives and that of their children so we can live in a free country ruled by the Laws of our Rabb and practice our religion freely without worrying about Hindu oppression, where we don’t have to keep proving loyalty to the land and still get treated like crap like Muslims do in our neighbour country,

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would you kindly keep this Islamic Ammah alone?

It hasn’t work with Arbistan, it didn’t work in East Pakistan and it won’t work with these Kabuli Kommies either.

Only thing that keeps a country together is $$$ and lots of them. Bring home the $$$ even if you have to go the end of earth, or even the edge of solar system.

While you bring home the $$, you need to keep the kabuli Kommies and other “fasadi” like MAToo diesel out of the country.

As I said in an earlier post, Durand-line is here to stay. Anyone wanting to join their dirt poor Afghan brothers are more than welcome to pack their donkey cart with clay pots, add their tent covered women and leave. Go and live in the cave with one eyed-MAToo Umer. He is enforcing Islamic Sharia so everyone will be happy and every Afghan pustoon and Afghan Uzbek will drink water from the same chappar.

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"Sumra da sharam khabara da, che dwa Pukhtanha khpulo ke pa jagarha dee aw nor mo thamashe kawi"
The status of Durand line largely depends on the hegemonic attitude of Punjab, till the time they are persistent with their current policy of dominating other races, I doubt "Nan de ka saba de daa maal da zarghun shah de", I think your loyal atniobl will translate it for you, after all he is striving so hard for Punjab's cause.

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haha! Punjab’s dominance? OK so where will it end? Dominance by General Dostum? He sure knows how to fill the containers with Pushtoons and put bullet holes through them. Yes you all Kabuli Kommies would rather live under General Dostum. Hey no one stops you. As I said it before, pack your donkey cart, load with your tent covered women and clay pots and go to Mazare Sharif. General is waiting for you all.

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haha! Punjab's dominance? OK so where will it end? Dominance by General Dostum? He sure knows how to fill the containers with Pushtoons and put bullet holes through them. Yes you all Kabuli Kommies would rather live under General Dostum. Hey no one stops you. As I said it before, pack your donkey cart, load with your tent covered women and clay pots and go to Mazare Sharif. General is waiting for you all.

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A slave mentality like your will always think like this, grow up man, Pakhtoon is not a slave nation, whether under your those friends in Afghanistan or your masters here in Lahore. Till the time we have Mir Jafar like you in our ranks, Pakhtoons will keep facing these problems. By the way how much you are getting from your masters a month. Is it big enough?