Dupatta/sheet/chadar/veil is symbol of modesty… Now a days in Pakistan, media is inclining toward duptta less culture… I remember, female newscasters of PTV used to take it… Recent flux of new channels are showing more this kind of culture… Do you think this culture is good/bad? What are positives and negatives of dupatta less culture?
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female newscasters used to take it Zia plus zia ki baqiyat (NS) period 
Otherwise, you will find it not necessary in first 15 years of PTV.
Kanwal Naseer who was first announcer of PTV did not follow this Dupatta during her later appearances on TV.
Showtime Episode 3 - Interview with Kanwal Naseer,Salma Baig - YouTube
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Mehtab Rashdi too....
Zia ki baqyat.. BB ki yad dila di...
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I just love dupatta....its such a symbol of elegance....
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Mehtab Rashdi too....
Zia ki baqyat.. BB ki yad dila di...
Mehtab Rashdi never took dupatta. She considers it hypocrisy to wear it in public / on media, when she doesn't take it in personal life. Her dressing has, however, been decent all across these years even without dupatta.
Sahira Kazmi is another name who rebelled and rejected to work in a drama specially written for her by Haseena Moin due to this dupatta policy (actresses were asked in Nawaz Sharif's first tenure to wear dupatta even during kitchen scenes)
There are so many ladies in Pakistani media and literature, who don't wear dupatta or take it on their head, but their image has always been decent. Be it Parveen Shakir, Kishwar naheed, Naved Shahzad.. Even Abida Parveen sometimes takes Ajrak on her shoulders, but I don't remember watching her wearing dupatta.
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LOL. Y'know what I think is funny but annoying at the same time? It's how the female hosts of some shows drape a dupatta over their head, but half the hair showing and it's so obvious that it's done more for "fashion" than to actually cover up. Like do you really think the viewer can't see thru that?
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^I know I always wonder what kind of statement are they trying to make by pinning it in such a revealing fashion.
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so before zia period, the ‘eastern modesty’ was not applicable?
well, I agree. Electronic media as an institute, since its evolution is not supposed to be preachy.
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It's how the female hosts of some shows drape a dupatta over their head, but half the hair showing
It's not hair that dupatta is supposed to hide. Believe me.
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^I know I always wonder what kind of statement are they trying to make by pinning it in such a revealing fashion.
None, women only make style statement through their dressing, no political or social statement is even intended through our dressing :)
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so before zia period, the 'eastern modesty' was not applicable? well, I agree. Electronic media as an institute, since its evolution is not supposed to be preachy.
eastern modesty was never linked with dupatta. example South India :D
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eastern modesty was never linked with dupatta. example South India :D
you have been giving examples of naqab and parda for eastern modesty
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you have been giving examples of naqab and parda for eastern modesty
that doesn't mean that whole of India was immodest in pre-sultanate period.
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that doesn't mean that whole of India was immodest in pre-sultanate period.
so what is the modesty then?
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so what is the modesty then?
The question is who got exclusive rights to define 'modesty'. Is it just religion or it can be defined by culture of an area as well.
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The question is who got exclusive rights to define 'modesty'. Is it just religion or it can be defined by culture of an area as well.
ok, definition according to culture?
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ok, definition according to culture?
For south-Indian culture, it doesn't lie in dupatta.
Even, saari (the most popular dress in Indian sub-continent which can be without duapatta) is not immodest as per Indian culture.
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^Ok
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The question is who got exclusive rights to define 'modesty'. Is it just religion or it can be defined by culture of an area as well.
Religion defines parameter..... Religious authority explain those parameters.....Culture can adopt them....
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so what is the modesty then?
it is individual perception of decency conditioned through culture and religion
The question is who got exclusive rights to define 'modesty'. Is it just religion or it can be defined by culture of an area as well.
None, sometimes religious are according to culture and sometimes culture affects religion in much broader term, now How much of hinduism is actually cultural animist religion of India and how much Islam got affected from pre-Islamic arabia beside using pre-Islamic arabic language in religious discourse :)