Dupatta ON or OFF?

call me old fashioned but I totally hear you Sana! I remember my cousins wedding she wore her mayoun outfit as her mehndi outfit except had a fancier dupatta draped ....

Dupatta is very necessary on the wedding and valima day.. it takes away from the dulhan glamour!

I guess its okay not to have your dupatta on your head on your engagement? what do you ladies think?

^ :omg: HAHAHAHAH

So, do all Hindus and Sikhs look the same to you?

Though sheer personal preference itself doesn't, apparently.

Don't worry: even though it's their wedding, it's your opinion that matters.

At least you're honest, I'll give you that.

Even when paired with a sleeveless choli and a big 'ole bridal bouquet. So appropriate!:)

Unless your "hubby" is Ken Paves or Oscar Blandi, I find that hard to believe.
If a man's more interested in a woman's immaculately coiffed hair that she is, he's probably not as into her as she'd like to believe.;)

Even if the bride is wearing a saree! Why don't those selfish cows ever consider these things, for Pete's sake?!?

Yeah! If they're going to insist on wearing burlap sacks or overalls to their weddings, they should at least jazz them up with a dupatta. Dulhans nowadays look too d@mn mousy for *my *taste.

It's okay to do whatever you feel like, peaches. Enjoy your wedding.

It’s nice to see that even in the most eye-searing shades visible to the human eye, one can still affect some modesty.

On a side note: these chicks look like they’re in mourning for Rainbow Brite.

I’m happy for you. Truly, I am.

That has less to do with the dupatta on the “bride’s” head and more to do with her friend’s outfit, which looks it was selected by the Bitter-Bridesmaid-Upstage-Committee.

She could also be the bride’s “eccentric” uncle Tahir, judging by the jawline and that five o’clock shadow. What’s your point?

well naturally if you are wearing a saree you can wear a dupatta on your head.

Thats what I am talking about! nothing makes a burlap sack or overalls sexier than a dupatta and dont forget to put in some straws behind your ear the whole country look just wont be complete without it! oh wait I almost forgot dont forget the dirt stains

When my times comes I sure will enjoy it or try to... hows your planning coming along? I am glad i have everyone here to lean on when my time comes :)

Exactly! And why do saree vendors always give me funny looks when I ask for a matching dupatta? Were they raised in a barn?!?

Brides nowadays tend to forgo the straw and dirt stains because the wanna look all “modern” and “trendy”. :rolleyes: Never forget your roots, people!

It’s coming along fine. I’ve got the dirt, the straw, and the swarovski-encrusted dupatta. My only real dilemma is: burlap sack, or overalls? Normally I’d go with the overalls, but it’s a casual affair during the day-time and I don’t want to look too formal. What to do?

Re: Dupatta ON or OFF?

^ Roxx I'm not sure where all this sarcasm/thinly veiled hostility is coming from, but I'm going to ask you to tone it down. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, including you, and we can all, including you, share them nicely.

barn??? no sweetie try something like the streets of (fill in a country name)

I am going to go all out at mine the whole dirt stains AND a cow… I cant forget a cow… with a bell! now thats hot!

oh go with the burlap you can then have a sack race too… i can ship you a sexy burlap down here from the good ol south! now no one does it like we do!

Considering that he only sees me with my hair down or in a ponytail..... yea I do think he will like to see me more dolled up than the norm on our wedding night.

I am sure there are some hubbys that appreciate what their wife to be looks like in that moment as HIS BRIDE. The hair is part of that overall look that screams "this is not normal and every day".

So yea - i do think some guys are interested in and do appreciate the overall beauty of his new dulhan once they have the alone time. And yes - I do think it adds to the "mood".

:confused:

You do realize that you’re allowed to wear a dupatta on your head anytime you want…lots of Muslim women do in fact do so.

I see. So you will be sitting “mayoun” then…not leaving your bedroom for 1-2 weeks, all the while wearing the same filthy yellow outfit every day?

I thought the same thing when I saw that picture.

Begum Nawazish Ali anyone?

Meesha Shafi wore a sari with a matching dupatta at her valima…I thought it looked okay.

I've never been to a wedding where the pakistani bride wore the dupatta off the head but after seeing pictures I honestly don't find it attractive at all but thats a personal preference:)...I feel it does take away from the bridal look because honestly these days everyone is so decked out at weddings especially in terms of fancy wear, jewlery, and even henna- that in some cases the guests just need to arrange their dupattas on their head and they have the capacity to fool you as a bride. The dupatta on the head A) looks graceful much more appealing than without B) gives the bride a distinctive look that will separate this image from any other occasion later on in life C) makes it easier to identify the bride when showing pics to an unaware audience

I don't know if this is congruent or not but American brides wear white dresses as has been tradition and its what looks appealing to the eye its not considered very high end to change the dress color to dark purple per se just because of personal preference of color choice or in the name of being "modern" in fact the only brides I've seen that wore different colored dresses are from weddings shown on the hill billy wedding show. a changed color wouldn't achieve the same bridal look as a white dress would -traditional white dresses are just classy...I think that concept of bridal look can be applied to arranging dupattas on pakistani brides without it the bridal appeal is lost...even though it may be personal preference its not a very inspiring change in terms of having eye appeal IMHO but knowing how pakistani's are this trend will probably grow fast because its going to be "modern"

Desi's are so eager to run towards a modern torch letting go of dupatta arrangment on the head in an effort to give a modern appeal to themselves--- but sometimes they are just losing their own cultural identity when they run too fast, have some confidence in the pakistani bridal look I think the confidence in your culture stems from having confidence in yourself first, you won't find yourself copying other cultures if your confident in how you can grace your own.... for example lesson learned from neighbor india even ashwarya rai embraced south asian traditional outfit on her wedding she didn't care of how modern she looked or not she represented who she was....why let go of tradition...especially if its a beautiful one. :)

disclaimer I just stated my opinion i'm sorry if i offended anybody. :)

I find it interesting how people in one thread get so annoyed at "aunties" who complain when brides don't cry at their rukhsatis because they're not following tradition, and it doesn't "look bridal." Then you come to this thread and see people complaining how brides with uncovered hair don't "look bridal" enough.

If a bride wants to keep her hair uncovered, its her prerogative. She shouldn't feel obligated to change the way she dresses because of rude guests who dress inappropriately.

It's not congruent at all really. White wedding dresses are actually a fairly recent tradition among Western brides; up until about a century ago people just wore their best dress to their weddings. I think a more appropriate comparison would be the concept of the veil in Western weddings - traditionally Western brides wore veils to the altar. Many brides still do, plenty opt not to (especially if they aren't having church weddings), and its really not considered a big deal either way.

Jan-e-ali:

Aunties should know crying is an emotional reaction its not a bridal look it comes from within, Aunties that talk about something like that are usually ones that will find an excuse to talk about anything. Even the close family and guests can cry at ruhksati its not distinguishing of the bridal identity.

Nobody said covering your head is an obligation she can do whatever she wants after all its her wedding obviously. Guests do dress very glamorous these days, just look at the pics posted in this thread there is no bridal distinction, some people want the distinction some don't and its fine either way...do your own thing.

Barring the brides who actually practice hijab (including the h0jabis who practiced hijab only up until their wedding days), I haven’t seen too many Desi brides covering their heads/faces and the fact that people are arguing that a bride SHOULD wear a ghoongat/dupatta is a perplexing one. Everyone who insists brides should cover their heads bandies around one reason or another but I’ve yet to see a single argument that actually holds water, including:
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A)The bride doesn’t look as good without a ghoongat/dupatta**.

That may be true, if the bride is half as ugly as the Desi brides I’ve seen. That said, a brown paper bag serves the same purpose without being pretentious.

B)The bridal look is incomplete without a ghoongat/dupatta.

You’re right: contrary to popular opinion, you don’t need a bride to conduct a wedding ceremony, just a ghoongat or dupatta. Why even invite the bride to her wedding since her ghoongat/dupatta itself is more important than her presence? As long as she doesn’t try to upstage the ghoongat/dupatta, she’s still welcome to attend her own wedding (but only as a guest).

*C)Your nikkah/walima/mendhi/mayoun/etc. is the only time in your life that you will able to wear a ghoongat/dupatta. *

Why only at the nikkah/walima/mendhi/mayoun/whatever? Why not move to someplace like Rajastan immediately after the festivities, so that you and your ghoongat can never be parted?
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D) A bride without a ghoongat/dupatta doesn’t look as special without it.**

A unicorn without wings doesn’t look as special without them, but if I was fortunate enough to come across a unicorn, the last thing I would do is bemoan its lack of wings.

E) Wearing a ghoongat/dupatta is more traditional.

Clearly, even brides who pair ghoongats/dupattas with sleeveless cholis, Western-style bouquets and/or Firangi grooms are more traditional than the mavericks that don’t. Our tolerance is exceeded only by our hypocrisy, apparently.
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F) Without her ghoongat/dupatta, I can’t tell the bride from anyone else.**

The majority of the time, the groom shuffles into the hall wearing little more than a business suit and a clean pair of shoes (despite the fact that his wedding is one of the few times a man can wear a tuxedo), yet I hear few people complaining about that. Yet, there is this belief that without a head-covering, you simply won’t recognize the bride. Do you walk into the wedding hall, wondering “Who ARE those two clowns seated on the stage?”. Do you simply run to the first hijabi you see, congratulate her and hand her the wedding gift, assuming that anyone with a head-covering MUST be the bride? I prefer to see dogs wearing collars but if I saw a dog without one I wouldn’t automatically assume it was a cat; neither would I pretend a ghoongat-less bride was some random party reveler.

G) Ghoongats/dupattas make brides look more modest.

That they do. Thankfully, facial-piercings, skimpy cholis/backless qameezes and/or 10 lbs. of hooker makeup often work to undo that damage. Unfortunately, I’ve seen too many brides don ghoongats or dupattas that failed to wipe their numerous questionable Facebook outfits and escapades from my mind; skanks of the world beware: the ghoongat/dupatta can only do so much.

H) It seems like only Indians/Hindus/Sikhs have abandoned the ghoongat/dupatta, and Pakistani Muslim brides who forgo a head-covering a simply copying them.

Of all the explanations I’ve read so far, this one takes the cake. I’ve only ever attended Muslim weddings, where only 50% or so of the brides covered their heads in some manner, but perhaps the bare-headed look really is more prevalent among Sikh and Hindu brides. I personally wouldn’t know. I find this line of reasoning bizarre, nonetheless; from mendhis, dholkis and bharats, to sarees, teekas and matha-pattis: the fact that something is associated with or attributed to Hindus or Sikhs has rarely proved an effective deterrent to Muslims. It’s a wonder that the folks who complain about bare-hair being a primarily Sikh/Hindu trend don’t also advocate divesting themselves of all Hindu/Sikh/Indian customs entirely and adopting another culture altogether (Arab perhaps, for those of us so blessed? Persian, for those of Persian descent? Tough luck for everyone else?). Good luck with that, btw.

G) “as gori's wear veils to cover their heads, so we wear dupattas”

I compared the choice of wearing a dupatta for us to the choice of wearing veils for Western brides, but even I didn’t go so far as to compare the actual dupatta/ghoongat to the bridal veil itself! My understanding is that the western bridal veil (when it is worn) is worn during the walk down the aisle and the recitation of the vows, and then the bride is unveiled by her spouse (groom or bride, depending on preference), after which the veil is usually removed and set aside, (though I applaud any bride who chooses to dance and/or hold her reception still veiled). On the other hand, the folks on this thread are advocating the use/wear of the ghoongat/dupatta both before and after the Muslim wedding ceremony (or Nikah) itself (when a Muslim bride, ostensibly, is *compelled *to cover her hair).

Ultimately, I’m neither for, nor against, the practice of brides wearing ghoongats/dupattas, and feel there are many valid reasons why a bride would choose to do so (shyness, tradition, religious belief) or not (personal choice, fashion, comfort). Unlike other posters on this thread, though, I’m not foolish enough to suggest that a dupatta or ghoongat (or the lack, thereof) is what makes or breaks a bride. Though we all have our quirks and preferences when it comes to bridal fashion and are not afraid to share them (or even mock them openly ;) ) modern Desi brides enjoy a freedom of choice seldom seen in other cultures. We’re all welcome to praise or mock the choices of others, as long as we don’t expect to make those choices for them.

I'm sorry my posts offended you. We're they not 'groovy' enough?

As for the "sarcasm/thinly veiled hostility", I don't believe hostility should be veiled (thinly, or otherwise). For you, though, I'm willing to make an exception: ghoongat, or dupatta? It's your call, SGC.

While I do agree that everyone is entitled to his/her opinion, am I to take it that you are now the arbiter of 'niceness' (in addition to 'groovieness', ofcourse)? The denizens of this forum aren't exactly known for 'niceties', but I wish you much luck in your endeavor.

I also appreciate your suggestion, but I suspect that censoring posts and censuring individuals might prove easier that dictating the thoughts, feelings and (especially) opinions of others (don't worry, though: I won't take it personally, if you do; it's not as if you GupShup mods are known for your restraint, in this respect).

You don’t even have to fill in the name; it’s the same deal in every country!

Sadly, I won’t have a cow until the groom pays my bride-price, but I feel you can never have enough cow (or cow-bell. More cow-bell!).

I have not met you, yet I love you already. :wub: You are now officially my new best-friend (cum-bridesmaid-slash-wedding-planner)!