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*Originally posted by little human: *
Just a quick question..was just curious to know if Changez_like, armughal and rehman1..have you guys read this dua's translation.
Will be back later.
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plz read my posts in this thread.And you will find the answer to your question.
fantastic1, little human, humhaipakistani: I am not questioning the dua itself, I only questioned the source of it. You can make up your own dua or read what other greats have suggested, thats not a problem. I only asked that Prophet Mohammed PBUH didn't have an encounter with Khizr AH, but Hazrat Ali RA had.
and to that Gandalf wondered if I knew all the encounters of Prophet, well I don't, but never came across such either, if you have read a hadith which tells encounter of Prophet Mohammed PBUH and Khizr AH then plz do share it.
Salaam,
You can check this website for more Duas…
Wasalam
I quite agree with fantastic1 and humhaipakistani
rehman1 I am not offended by you at all bhai 
but with regards to this *SHAKIR: In houses which Allah has permitted to be exalted and that His name may be remembered in them; there glorify Him therein in the mornings and the evenings, * if you read the dua bhai you will see that Allah is remembered and glorified in it too.
i will just take some part of the dua and post here:-
**O Allah! I beseech Thee by Thy mercy which encompasses all things And by Thy power by which Thou overcometh all things and submit to it all things and humble before it all things And by Thy might by which Thou hast conquered all things And by Thy majesty against which nothing can stand up
And by Thy grandeur which prevails upon all things And by Thy authority which is exercised over all things And by Thy own self that shall endure forever after all things have vanished And by Thy Names which manifest Thy power over all things And by Thy knowledge which pervades all things And by the light of Thy countenance which illuminates everything O Thou who art the light!
O Thou who art the most holy! O Thou who existed before the foremost! O Thou who shall exist after the last!
O Allah! Forgive me my such sins as would affront my continency O Allah! Forgive me my such sins as would bring down calamity
O Allah! Forgive me my such sins as would change divine favours (into disfavours (O Allah! Forgive me my such sins as would hinder my supplication O Allah! Forgive me such sins as bring down misfortunes (or afflictions) O Allah! Forgive my such sins as would suppress hope
O Allah! Forgive every sin that I have committed and every error that I have erred O Allah! I endeavour to draw myself nigh to Thee through Thy invocation And I pray to Thee to intercede on my behalf And I entreat Thee by Thy benevolence to draw me nearer to Thee And grant me that I should be grateful to Thee and inspire me to remember and to invoke Thee
O Allah! I entreat Thee begging Thee submissively, humbly and awestrickenly To treat me with clemency and mercy, and to make me pleased and contented with what Thou hast allotted to me And cause me to be modest and unassuming in all circumstances
O Allah! I beg Thee as one who is passing through extreme privation and who supplicates his needs to Thee and his hope has been greatly raised by that which is with Thee
O Allah! Great is Thy kingdom and exalted is Thy greatness Thy plan is secret, Thy authority is manifest, Thy might is victorious and subduing and Thy power is prevalent throughout and it is not possible to escape from Thy dominion
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And afterall it’s just a dua, I mean when some people read it they really feel as if that’s exactly what they want to say and it has been so beautifully put.
And…i don’t want to offend you too… If you don’t like my
reply i am sorry. 
i quoted meaning of an Ayah(verse) from Koran.
that was translation by a guy name Shakir.
and plz do not compare any other supplication(dua)
with Koran. there is no comparasion.
i want to tell you again, there is no comparasion.
i want to ask you few questions.
Re: Dua kumail in urdu
After Hazrat Muhammad (PBUH) , the wahees or the messages
by Allah(swt) was ended. Do you agree to that.
How come you are saying ke Rasool(PBUH) ke baadd
anybody else is entitled to Ayahs in Arabic.
Its just too confusing issue for me.
I am just trying to understand the issue here. My purpose is
not to pick a fight or hurt anybody’s beliefs.
take care
^ oh man please dua is not ayyat 
Its just dua anyone can read any dua or ask for anything, lets say i wanna say " Allah mian mujhey exams mey paas kur dey" does Koran has the exact words? Its just dua and dua is not Ayyat
And just as we can make dua in urdu we can also do it in Arabic ad that doesn’t make it Ayyah.
I was referring to the discussion with Little Human.
You misunderstood.Read the POSTS again where
he is comparing it to Koran.
I NEVER intended to compare dua with Koran :nono: what I mean to say is that kay it was mention in the ayah that Allah’s name should be remembered and there glorifiy HIM..so aren’t we suppose to act on it…i quoted some parts of the dua to show you kay in the dua when we read it, we ARE remembering Allah turning to Allah, I mean just read the dua and you’d see how many times we mention Allah.
**I never intended to compare the Koran with the dua ** 
Correct me if I am wrong but I think Dua as fantastic1 has said is not an ayah, it’s a dua I dua everyday like “Allah give me health, help me in this matter etc”…don’t you make a dua too…will u see your dua in the Quran?..Quran is a guidance for us we read it and we try to IMPLEMENT it…you see what I mean…
And dua is more like a dil ke baat with Allah.
And ya ofcourse we can’t compare the ayahs with dua…coz they are not the same
correct me if i am wrong........there is no harm in dua........dua is not biddah ....but it becomes a bidah if it is given more importence then quran and ahdith...there r so many duas mentioned in ahdith .....why not read them.................
all in all........we r not against the dua unless it is
1-not aginst islmaic teacings......do not contain shirk...
2-r not potrayed as driven from islmaic source...or that they contain some fazail etc......(which in fact they dont)
wamaalina illalbalgh
“… This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion…” [al-Maa’idah 5:3]
Jab Allah(SWT) ne Deen complete kardia than HOW COME
PEOPLE ARE still receiving divine messages.
Supposedly,delivered by Hazrat Khizar(A.S).
Only Prophets receive Divine messages?
Rasool(PBUH) received messages of Allah from Angels.
I want to ask few questions.
Is the religion lacking something, that Allaah did not complete and perfect it, and that there is room for improvement.
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Why fight on Duas? I think its the words of Dua that matter. If words are good be it Dua -e-Kamila or anyother Whats the big deal?
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The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to say, when beginning a khutbah (sermon): "… The best of speech is the Book of Allaah and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. The worst of things are those which are newly-invented, and every innovation is a going astray…" (reported by Muslim, no. 867)
Supplications ("Duas") are a kind of prayers to Allah. A person who reads a "Dua" is actually addressing Allah.
In the Qur'an itself Allah tells us of the "Duas" of several Prophets such as Nabi Nuh, Nabi Ibrahim and Nabi Musa. The Prophet taught his companion S several Duas. Imam Alitaught Kumayl Bin Ziyadthe DuaofNabi Khizrwhich came to be known as "Dua-e-Kumayl" and which is read every Thursday evening.
The "Duas" of the ahl-bait (as) are filled with knowledge of very branch of Islam.
We read from the holy qur'an:
*[Shakir 2:186] And when My servants ask you concerning Me, then surely I am very near; *I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he calls on Me, so they should answer My call and believe in Me that they may walk in the right way.
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Allah is very near, nearer than the jugular vein. Awareness of this fact serves two purposes-it stops man from drifting towards evil, and secondly it gives him heart and confidence to rely upon Allah alone, independent of all created beings, making him understand the ever-living reality of Allah who alone controls the whole universe and that which takes place in it.
He answers the prayer of every sincere supplicant when he calls on Him. Allah hears every cry of help and gives to His devotee that which is best in his interest, known to His infinite wisdom alone. Acceptance of prayer does not mean immediate fulfilment of whatever is sought.
"So they should answer My call" means man should carry out Allah's will expressed through His commandments to regulate and discipline the life of this world.
"And believe in Me" means awareness of the ever-living presence of the almighty and all-knowing Lord creator, equal to or like unto whom is no one.
To get that which is desired man has to make efforts and employ all the means at his disposal, arranged and provided by Allah, and then invoke Him to let the labour bear fruit. To use the available means properly, to apply the native faculties, and to pay close attention he needs guidance for which he invokes the highest authorities from whom nothing is hidden and for whom nothing is impossible. Through prayers guidance is received as to how the efforts should be made to fulfil the desires. The merciful Lord who is also all-wise knows what is profitable (An-am: 41). Sometimes Allah puts His devoted servants to test and trial (Baqarah: 155). In this sense man's efforts and his prayers are inseparable.
The act of invocation has been recommended by Allah Himself, because it helps to make the efforts of man fruitful. This passage dismisses the fatalist view that man's destiny is predetermined, regardless of his actions; this verse not only recommends prayer but also promises a response, showing that prayer which is a human action, has its effect on determining the destiny. The prayer to which response is promised should be a sincere cry from the depth of the heart. If there is predestination as the fatalists say, then this verse and verse 5 of Al Fatihah become meaningless.
Imam Ali ibna abi Talib says:
Put faith in Allah. Seek His protection.
Direct your prayers, requests, solicitations and supplications to Him and Him alone.
To give as well as to withhold lies in His (only in His) power.
Ask as much of His favours as you can.
Know that Allah owns the treasures of the heavens and the earth. Not only He has given permission to ask for His mercy and favours, but also has promised to listen to your prayers. He has not appointed guards to prevent your prayers reaching Him. Invoke His help in difficulties and distress. Implore Him to grant you long life and sound health. Pray to Him for prosperity.
Think over it that by simply granting you the privilege of praying for His favours and mercy, He has handed over the keys of His treasures to you. Whenever you are in need, pray, and He gives His favours and blessings.
Sometimes you find requests are not immediately granted. Do not be disappointed. Fulfilment of desires rests with the true purpose or intention of the pray-er. More often fulfilment is delayed because the merciful Lord wants to bestow upon you suitable rewards. In the meantime bear patiently hardships, believing sincerely in His help. You will get better favours, because, unknowingly, you may ask for things which are really harmful to you. Many of your requests, if granted, may bring eternal damnation.
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Supplications ("Duas") are a kind of prayers to Allah. A person who reads a "Dua" is actually addressing Allah.
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Did you find any of encounters of Prophet Mohammed PBUH with Khizr AH yet?
changez, as far as i know, the dua was taught by Imam Ali (as) to a companion. That is common knowledge. Whether Hazrat Khizr(as) taught it to him, i've no idea.
Rehman, noone is saying a dua is more devine than the quran. so chill.
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changez, as far as i know, the dua was taught by Imam Ali (as) to a companion. That is common knowledge. Whether Hazrat Khizr(as) taught it to him, i've no idea...
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I saw that on the link provided by one of guppies here for the dua thats what made me wonder. I don't have problems with dua, or who taught.
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*Originally posted by armughal: *
but am alsmot sure it is one of those BID'AT things....
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Do you know what the word bid'at means? I think I should start a thread on what bid'at is. You need to learn a lot my friend.
So according to you and other people, if a dua is not present in Quran and Hadith then it is bid'ah?
Do you use only the words taught by the Prophet while making dua? I see maulvis of masjid praying for Palestine, and for well being of Muslim Ummah. Is it bid'ah too? How about elaborate du'as of Imam e Kaaba at the time of Hajj? Did Prophet teach us those duas?
Most of you have not even seen this dua. I have read it and I have read its translation. It is a very beautiful dua.
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It's along dua. I am posting a small part of it to let you know what this dua is all about. And after reading it, please ask forgiveness from Allah for your rhetoric against this dua.
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You were too quick, but you didn't bother going thru the thread. Didn't you see "little human" already posted the translation of this dua?
Armughal's problem is not if dua is a bidat or not, his problem is that he concluded without knowing what it really is.
Anyway, my question remains unanswered yet.
Sorry. I really was too quick.
I have deleted the dua now.
I browsed through the thread, again quickly, and I think you are asking about this dua being taught by Hazrat Khizr.
Hazrat Ali told this dua to Kumail, and that’s why it is now called “Dua e Kumail”.
Link: Origin of the Dua
I don’t see that this dua was actually “taught” by Khizr to Ali in some encounter. So why did Ali called this dua “Dua e khizr”? It is not clear.
In the Qur'an itself Allah tells us of the "Duas" of several Prophets such as Nabi Nuh, Nabi Ibrahim and Nabi Musa. The Prophet taught his companion S several Duas. Imam Alitaught Kumayl Bin Ziyadthe DuaofNabi Khizrwhich came to be known as "Dua-e-Kumayl" and which is read every Thursday evening.
Again there is comparasion of a DUA(whose origins are not proven by any of the posts) with Koran. There is comparasion with Anbiyaas.
Interesting, very interesting.