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Really, now? Was UN still asleep or do they not really follow what is happening around the world?
So you want to stop drone strikes if that is why TTP is attacking and not because there are civilian casualties in drone bombings?
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
GOOD PART OF THE REPORT !!!!
"In an apparent reference to Pakistan, Heyns’ report suggests consent from military or intelligence officials may not be enough to satisfy legal requirements for the US to conduct drone strikes on foreign territory, according to international, humanitarian and human rights law."
Our rulers are ISO Certified liars and traitors .
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Yet another report confirms the consent. Instead of asking Obama to re-think drones attack NS should have first asked the same question to his CAOS. Lying to public is extra ordinary skill of Pakistani leaders.
Pakistan secretly endorsed drone strikes: report - DAWN.COM
WASHINGTON: Pakistan for years secretly approved of US drone attacks on its territory despite public denunciations, The Washington Post reported Wednesday, citing secret documents.
The purported evidence of Islamabad’s involvement came as Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif visited the White House and urged an end to the attacks, which are widely unpopular with the Pakistani public.
Pakistani support for drone attacks has long been widely suspected, although strikes reported by the Post involved several years up to 2011 – before a slowdown in strikes and Sharif’s election in May.
The newspaper said that top-secret documents and Pakistani diplomatic memos showed that the Central Intelligence Agency had drafted documents to share information on drone attacks with Pakistan.
The report by the Washington post comes just days after a separate UN report suggested that there was “strong evidence” that top Pakistani military and intelligence officials approved US drone strikes on Pakistani soil during 2004 and 2008.
At least 65 drone strikes were marked for discussion with Pakistan, including through briefings at its embassy in Washington and in materials sent physically to senior officials in Islamabad.
In one case in 2010, a document describes hitting a location “at the request of your government.” Another file referred to a joint effort at picking targets.
The article – co-written by Bob Woodward, one of the two journalists who broke the Watergate scandal in the 1970s – said that the documents also showed that the United States raised concerns that extremists were linked to Pakistan’s powerful intelligence service.
In one incident, then secretary of state Hillary Clinton confronted Pakistan about cell phones and written materials from dead bodies of militants that showed links to the Inter-Services Intelligence agency.
In turn, a Pakistani memo gave the names of 36 US citizens believed to be CIA agents and urged the embassy in Washington not to issue visas to them, the newspaper said.
The report came a day after Amnesty International said that the United States may have broken international law by killing civilians with drones.
It pointed to an October 2012 attack that killed a 68-year-old grandmother as she picked vegetables. For the first six months of 2011, 152 combatants were killed, according to a table cited by the Post that did not list any civilian casualties.
The Obama administration has defended drone strikes as a better way to avoid civilian casualties, saying that it carefully selects Al-Qaeda-linked extremists in lawless parts of Pakistan.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
ajeeb and we call/taunt our opponents agents of USA.
what did that american lawyer said for these sold souls in aimal kansee case is true.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Reading doesn't seem to be a strong skill set here. Read the article again. It makes reference to 2004 to 2008. The period of musharrafs rule.
You guys should read your articles instead of just the title.
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Drone strikes were controlled in musharrafs time, and they have reduced now. The period between 2008 to 2013 where maximum drone strikes took place (over 95 %).
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Amnesty has finally woken up, drone strikes are taking place for the past 9 years.
Yeah they said it was illegal in 2004 as well. But I guess that doesn't fit with your agenda so who cares.
A question - do you now consider amnesty international taliban supporters?
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As for the UN report it looks at the period of 2004 to 2008. The military period under musharraf. Not recently.
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i have never supported drone strikes. I hate signature strikes, if sparingly used on strong intelligence they are better than mortars or gunship attacks (what Pakistan army uses in the same areas).
this is is the thread that I ran here :
http://www.paklinks.com/gs/pakistan-affairs/554771-drone-attacks-just-and-legal-white-house-6-print.html
I don’t like drones but I hate the way how they are used as justifications for suicide bombings which has killed 10 times more people.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Reading doesn't seem to be a strong skill set here. Read the article again. It makes reference to 2004 to 2008. The period of musharrafs rule.
You guys should read your articles instead of just the title.
They all are same, musharaf/PPP/Muslim league. All sell pakistanis for dollars.(Aimal kansee/ramzi yousaf/afia siddiqui and many more)
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So? Doesn't affect the reality that the support was not there under the democratic governments. It was purely military support.
The us undertook the strikes without our consent since 2008.
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Not the question I asked.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Americans dont need permission. There was information sharing during mush era about the probable attacks. Later on US found that the information is being passed on by our Army to some selected groups , hence they change the strategy and not giving info to PK army any more.
Our army wants attack on some facts of TTP and want to save other group. They never were and never will be against these attaack coz they simply dont have the balls to bite their Masters
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Secret memos reveal explicit nature of U.S., Pakistan agreement on drones - The Washington Post
But the files expose the explicit nature of a secret arrangement struck between the two countries at a time when neither was willing to publicly acknowledge the existence of the drone program. The documents detailed at least 65 strikes in Pakistan and were described as “talking points” for CIA briefings, which occurred with such regularity that they became a matter of diplomatic routine. The documents are marked “top *secret” but cleared for release to Pakistan.
There was no immediate comment from Pakistan’s military or intelligence service, but Talat Masood, a retired Pakistani general, said the revelation that Pakistan’s government was well-informed about the drone program will likely “put cold water on the hype” within Pakistan over the issue.
“I think people knew it already, but this makes it much more obvious, and the [Pakistani] media and others will have to cool off, ” said Masood, a military analyst.
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Yeah like yhe usa has not lied before or have you forgotten davis and how the entire us media said he was not a spy. They could be making all this up.
The wp openly wrote lies with regard to davis at the request of the us goverment.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Pakistan army must cut its balls off (if they have any) and admit to the nation that they are a bunch of khusraas, they can only control harmless civilians. Time and time again it has been proven that army had agreement with US over drones but still these khusraas kept saying "we can knock down these drones if govt allowed" while they actually secretly signed the agreement and then pushed it down the throat of govt.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
Make up your mind yourselves.
Re: “Strong evidence” Pakistan military approved US drone strikes: UN report
If they are denying that they did not collude with US then they need to explain why they did not block those drones, did not take them down, why they allowed US to operate drones from one of the bases within Pakistan. Is there any end to lying?
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just now wathcing kashif abbasi off the record , rauf klasra informing that during the hearing of raymond devis case , our DG ISI suja pasha was sending sms to US embasssador about the status of the case and what actually happening as how raymond is being taken out of jail.
this is the height of slavery of our Army top officials.
Our jawan no doubt are the greatest soldiers but i really feel sad for them while their beheaded bodies are being kicked by the TTP ppl.
For what cause these brave jawan gave away their lives ???
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A question - do you now consider amnesty international taliban supporters?
Not everyone opposing drone strikes is a Taliban supporter.
But every Taliban supporter opposes drone strikes.