Drone kills TTP No.2 | TTP withdraws talk offer

[Med911]

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@CEO1

When you play with fire eventually you get burnt.

Pakistan is in this mess because it created and essentially bit the hand that fed it.

In general Pakistan deserves what is happening in the country now.

Many states are deserving of an equally grueling punishment as Pakistan. If Pakistan is guilty, then name me one country that is innocent and sinless.

If Karma is a way of explaining away what is happening in Pakistan, then how to explain countries that arent in the same situation but have also committed such mistakes?

Look at Saudi, look at India, look at China, look at the US… Are these countries paying for their mistakes?

[Sheeda_Pistol_1]

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@CEO1

In general Pakistan deserves what is happening in the country now.

When i read such comments, i wish there would be an “UNLIKE” button as well here.

[kakaballi]

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@Med911

…Look at Saudi, look at India, look at China, look at the US… Are these countries paying for their mistakes?

None of these countries trained THEIR OWN people to be militants.

[mercenary2k]

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Yet another reason why I support Drone Strikes.

There would be no need for Drone Strikes if Pakistani Army actually did its job instead of sitting in its barracks and planning future wars with India.

[mercenary2k]

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@Amal

The US does not want Pakistan and the Taliban to talk. And they succeed every time.

Why should they talk and to what end?

The Taliban need to surrender their weapons, accept Pakistani constitution, or instead face the full wrath of the Pakistani Army.

Pakistan is not Afghanistan where the Taliban actually is an big piece of the Afghan Body Politik.

[mercenary2k]

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@CEO1

When you play with fire eventually you get burnt.

Pakistan is in this mess because it created and essentially bit the hand that fed it.

In general Pakistan deserves what is happening in the country now.

Yeap. I agree with this.

Its like someone raising snakes in its backyard to use them against its neighbours but now those snakes have started biting him instead and now is preplexed as to why and how?

LOL

[rangoli]

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Good Riddance! and what talks we are talking about here? those were never in place, we will be fooling ourselves if we think these savages sincerely wanted to negotiate for peace talks. While these so called talks were going on they were killing innocent people left right and center and now they have the audacity to tell us that “we will teach a lesson to Pakistan - we will take revenge”… this is what they have been doing all along- when did they ever stopped killing innocent people?.. if the efforts for peace talks were Indeed sincere, govt would have forced them to stop these attacks while these talks were in process.

[firenze]

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so basically for Insafians cool down, let the federal government form then you are happy to criticize.
oh by the way i will see what TI going to do in KP in next 100 days.

[Jolie]

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@Med911

Another BS excuse for cowardice!

Its ok to hold talks with those who are willing to accept the existing setup, meaning accept the Afghan govt and constitution, end all hostilities and lay down arms.
And these talks are only with a particular group which is willing to accept these terms.

What you dont have a right to do is conduct talks with a group that does not accept the govts writ, refuses toever accept, does not accept the constitution, refuses to lay down arms, refuses to join the mainstream or refrain from creating parallel system of rule… A group which while accepting peace talks, also accepts responsibility for attacking security forces the same day. Talking to the TTP is basically accepting defeat. Its is peace at gunpoint with the gun in the hands of the TTP. You dont make deals with such people. Negotiations can only be held from a position of strength, not from under the boot of the person your negotiating with.

Please spare us your BS warmongering crap.

Your every post is like a broken record, harping about same old misinformation and false allegations. Yes Pakistan too is only looking to sign peace with Taliban who recognize the state, accepts the writ of government and respect the laws of the land. I still doubt whether this will stop you from making things up. Now how do you explain the situation where Taliban from accepting Pakistan’s peace terms have vowed to seek revenge for killing of their leader? Was all the bust up really necessary? One drone strike in FATA equals 20 suicide bomb attacks in Pakistan’ main cities is exactly the type ‘peace’ likes you want to see in Pakistan, right? Neither Pakistan nor the Taliban have publicized their conditions, so I don’t why you are hellbent on propagating an eternal doom and gloom situation. Its pathetic. How about you start updating yourself about Pakistan’s current policies then come back and think about making same old paranoid and ignorant posts on an internet forum.

[Jolie]

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@mercenary2k

Why should they talk and to what end?

The Taliban need to surrender their weapons, accept Pakistani constitution, or instead face the full wrath of the Pakistani Army.

Pakistan is not Afghanistan where the Taliban actually is an big piece of the Afghan Body Politik.

What wrath? Whose wrath? Pakistan army doesn’t even want to fight this war anymore and NATO is leaving next year.

[Jolie]

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@rangoli

Good Riddance! and what talks we are talking about here? those were never in place, we will be fooling ourselves if we think these savages sincerely wanted to negotiate for peace talks. While these so called talks were going on they were killing innocent people left right and center and now they have the audacity to tell us that “we will teach a lesson to Pakistan - we will take revenge”… this is what they have been doing all along- when did they ever stopped killing innocent people?.. if the efforts for peace talks were Indeed sincere, govt would have forced them to stop these attacks while these talks were in process.

The Government who vowed make peace efforts hasn’t even taken the oath yet! And peace talks were never in process, they are far from being finalized on paper let alone coming into practice before the country welcomes its new PM.

[Aceones]

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@Med911

We dont want to talk with anyone who represent the TTP especially the one under Hakimullah Mehsud. You dont negotiate with murderers… If every murderer had a right to a negotiated reprieve, Pakistans jails would be empty by tomorrow.

who we? your masters are talking their murderers, why can’t “we” talk to ours?

[Aceones]

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@Med911

Thats 100k army excuse is the biggest load of BS I have ever heard. The 100 K army cant kill every rat hiding under every rock, and they certainly cant kill those rats when they hide under rocks in Pakistan. which is where all these terrorists, including the Afghan terrorists are based. The 100 K Americans arent given permission to enter Pakistani territory, hence the 100 K number is useless when they cant even engage the enemy… The exception is the Osama Bin Laden raid, which involved only a small number of Navy SEALS, and was just that an exception not a rule.

The blame for the Talibans success is not on the Americans, its on the Pakistanis for not clearing their own territory of these animals. The drones are the only thing doing the job the Pakistani army wont do. And to say that Pakistan cant fight these people on the ground is also bs, and cowardly. The excuse that the Pak army cant face these scum was put to rest when they defeated them in Swat and took S Waziristan.

Pakistanis should wake the f up and realize that its their responsibility to fight the menace on their own territory.

right, the blame of American failure in Afghanistan is on Pakistan. those CENTCOM chaps don’t need to spend money hiring a new guy every few months, they just need to read your posts more often

[Med911]

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@Aceones

who we? your masters are talking their murderers, why can’t “we” talk to ours?

We are Pakistani.. Cowards shouldnt pretend to be Pakistani.

[Med911]

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@Aceones

right, the blame of American failure in Afghanistan is on Pakistan. those CENTCOM chaps don’t need to spend money hiring a new guy every few months, they just need to read your posts more often

Why bother sending anyone when its obvious your level schizoid delusion is beyond help.

[Ali_Syed]

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[mod]guys please don’t be personal with each other [/mod]

[Med911]

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@Jolie

Please spare us your BS warmongering crap.

Your every post is like a broken record, harping about same old misinformation and false allegations. Yes Pakistan too is only looking to sign peace with Taliban who recognize the state, accepts the writ of government and respect the laws of the land. I still doubt whether this will stop you from making things up. Now how do you explain the situation where Taliban from accepting Pakistan’s peace terms have vowed to seek revenge for killing of their leader? Was all the bust up really necessary? One drone strike in FATA equals 20 suicide bomb attacks in Pakistan’ main cities is exactly the type ‘peace’ likes you want to see in Pakistan, right? Neither Pakistan nor the Taliban have publicized their conditions, so I don’t why you are hellbent on propagating an eternal doom and gloom situation. Its pathetic. How about you start updating yourself about Pakistan’s current policies then come back and think about making same old paranoid and ignorant posts on an internet forum.

The Taliban do NOT accept the writ of the land. This has been proven time and again. But people like you, dont understand that.
One drone strike equals 20 suicide bombing? Can you prove it?

Cowards would sell themselves for peace.

[Med911]

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@Jolie

The Government who vowed make peace efforts hasn’t even taken the oath yet! And peace talks were never in process, they are far from being finalized on paper let alone coming into practice before the country welcomes its new PM.

Thankfully, the Army seems to think the Taliban are not reasonable, and thanks to the US and their drones, cowards are shut out in the cold again as the Taliban have shut down peace talks even before they started. Excellent news, dont need to waste time talking to terrorists.

[Med911]

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@mo293

excuses - excuses - excuses and lots of them but one thing you fail to comprehend is that Pashtun babas are here to stay PEROID… They are not going anywhere, If a superpower cannot handle them in Vietnamistan I doubt Pak army stand a chance. That is a very short history/analysis of Vietnamistan..

Failure is an orphan success has many fathers.

I dont understand your point… Vietnam? So we should let them continue their coampaign of genocide against the people of Paksitan because you think the Army cant fight them?

First of all, why are you undermining your own countries army? Didnt they take care of them in Swat?

We arent even talking about the Pashtun tribes, many of whom dont even support the Taliban. Taliban are a criminal organization under the guise of a religious movement. Its hardly Pushtun centric.

And because you are afraid of failure, you should never try? The Taliban are commiting mass murder, involved in extortion, kidnapping, yet you want Pakistan to negotiate with them even though they are guilty of murdering thousands of Pakistanis? Dont you feel any shame over negotiating with people who murder so many of your own people?!?!?

[Med911]

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@Aceones

Talibans are not one entity guys, not talking about afghan taliban, they are entirely different. Even these so called Tehrik-e-Taliba ABC..P..XYZ are not one group with one chain of command with one area of influence. The one who got supposedly killed in this drone, was the representative of taliban group who wanted to negotiate. Hakimullah wasn’t for talks with govt, he lives, waliur-rehman was all for talks and got droned

The Pakistan govt is trying to negotiate with the Hakeemullah group, and that group on the very same day they accepted peace talks admitted to murdering 12 police officers in Peshawar… Hakeemullah or no Hakeemullah, you should be ashamed of even asking for peace from such people. Sharum mugar thuma athi nahi.